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Re: I would bet a fortune Mahdi Guuleed inherits Nabad/Nolol movement & will become Somali President.

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paperino wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:53 am
mahoka wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:31 am Why didn’t farmaajo make him pm?
After Kheyre was fired, Mahdi was the pm with full capacity. Do some homework.
He was interim pm. Why couldn't failmaajo appoint him. Prime minister when he fired kheyre. Simple question
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Khalid Ali wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:26 am He was interim pm. Why couldn't failmaajo appoint him. Prime minister when he fired kheyre. Simple question
Due to the unukaaleh thingy, Mahdi wasn't even eligible to become a pm, let alone interim pm. Farmaajo broke protocols and let Mahdi become the pm. Mahdi Guuleed was a pm with full capacity, interim or non-interim. The fact that a reer Waqooyi can become one of the top gov officials in Somalia tells you that koonfurians & their gov are democratic. Contrast that with maamulka Waqooyi Galbeed, where Mahdi Guuleed would be tortured & murdered if he goes to the region.
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Nonsense again there were plenty of times the deputy prime minister assumed the role of the prime minister when ever there was an outgoing prime minister. My question is why couldn't failmaajo name guleed as prime minister yuu ka baqanaya there is no law that says if the president is Darood the prime minister must be hawiye. It doesn't say that in the 4.5. So where is failmaajo kalsoonida.
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Khalid Ali wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:47 am Nonsense again there were plenty of times the deputy prime minister assumed the role of the prime minister when ever there was an outgoing prime minister. My question is why couldn't failmaajo name guleed as prime minister yuu ka baqanaya there is no law that says if the president is Darood the prime minister must be hawiye. It doesn't say that in the 4.5. So where is failmaajo kalsoonida.
There mightn't be such a law, but there's 'Gentleman's agreement', and according to Osoble, it's more powerful than the constitution.
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Re: I would bet a fortune Mahdi Guuleed inherits Nabad/Nolol movement & will become Somali President.

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Khalid Ali wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:47 am Nonsense again there were plenty of times the deputy prime minister assumed the role of the prime minister when ever there was an outgoing prime minister. My question is why couldn't failmaajo name guleed as prime minister yuu ka baqanaya there is no law that says if the president is Darood the prime minister must be hawiye. It doesn't say that in the 4.5. So where is failmaajo kalsoonida.

You're right. Because of an unspoken rule on the PM and President clan rule. The FGS in Xamar Hawiye central. For a non Hawiye President in Xamar's time to run smoothly he needs Hawiye on his side so picks a PM and makes some concessions.
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So the country is the hands of 2 clans only makes sense
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Re: I would bet a fortune Mahdi Guuleed inherits Nabad/Nolol movement & will become Somali President.

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mahoka wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:36 am
Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:51 am
BigBreak wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:19 am No chance, SL is independent and this Amharic speaking jaajus can't even step foot in SL even though he's actually Ethiopian :lol:
See this is the weirdest thing about you. This is not something ANY Isaaq would say at all. 0. ZERO. Uú

I know that, because Isaaq, like Dhulbahante, like Marehan, like Gugandhabe, are the only groups originally affected by the border who still uniquely graze and settle on both sides of the border without having changed their political identification from overwhelmingly identifying with Somalia (Somaliland).

In fact the only groups who have changed their identity are Gudabiirsi, Reer Bicidyahan, and Rahanweyn.

Gudabiirsi because their Ugaas fell on the Ethiopian side and in the greater Dir continuum from Jigjiga-Afar, they became constituency to greater Dir political machinations.

Majerten would have been like us, but Rer Bicidyahan (largely as a result of inter-MJ political competition with Cumar Maxmuud) have had a completely change of political identity where today they are as invested in Ethiopian identity as the Maalinguur on the Faafan).

Rahanweyn, unlike the other two, have not had a change of identity, but they are no longer like the original group straddling a border---they have moved inside Somalia border almost completely.

An Isaaq, a Dhulbahante, a Marehan, a Gugandhabe----they will go and graze and even have baraago and settlements, and in the casenof Isaaq even havr a guy like Abdulmajiid who rose to be a minister----but no Isaaq, etc will wake up one day calling another Isaaq "Ethiopian."

In fact, if you notice this ridiculous tag that has become infamous for ONLY being used again Mahdi----if you notice at the heart of it is desperation facilitated by implicit bias which results in ignorance.

1. It is ignorant because they don't understand the political history unique to the Somali border clans resulting from colonialism.

2. That ignorance comes from implicit bias----meaning the fact they do not havr this knowledge says they are probably not from these communities who would internalizr this knowledge from membership.

3. And what even motivates them to fiddle with such un-Somalilike xenophobia based on where a Somali was born is desperation in the fight against Farmaajo and a need to attack any perceived ally.

There is only two groups who fight this and have been really the only ones using that against Mahdi---

Extremel HAGites who are insulated in the Benadir district and exteme Puntites mimicking their new bosom buddies in then obsession with Farmajo.

Even with the Punties, it's always the similarly insulated reer Bari ones.

Mahdi Guuleed waa nin Isaaq, Garxajis, Ciidagale.

Garxajis straddle the northern border with Ethiopia from Danood to Awaare and beyond.

Aint no Isaaq going to call any Garxajis "Amxaar" whether he was born in Gaashaamo or Wajaale or even Addis Ababa.

And I know that because my own mother was born in Galaadi and my dad in Khelaafo and aint no Marehan ever called, or ever will call, my parents "Amxaar."
Isaaq doesn’t share anything with you people, no disrespect.
The problem with you has always been you try way too hard. "kkkkk"

Try letting your insecurity get down to this size. 🤏
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