Breaking news: Cabdirashiid Janan strikes a deal with Farmaajo govt ditches Madoobe

[Murax]

This does not make any sense if kenya even sniffed treachery from janan they would have put him under house arrest.

Two things are happening

1) he has already given himself up and is in beledxaawo under SNA and they are just creating this narrative as part of his deal.
2) fake news.

But one thing I guarantee you, janan does not have the free will to negotiate in the open.

Maybe it’s possible Kenya gave up, with the SNA deployments in Gedo saying recapturing anywhere for Janaan is a lost cause. It wouldn’t even surprise me in the not so distant future they ditch Madoobe too. All these nacas folks were, was leverage for Kenya in the maritime dispute. The case is done, over, so that doesn’t even matter anymore.

[Sbashi]

Janan in Mogadishu.

[SultanOrder]

Janan will not be given any positions or treated with honors. He will get the same treatment as Rooble and Hassan Dahir Aweys. This is a good option and a reality of war.

[Gubbet]

An entire family including 6 of their children died in one set of casualties in the war he led on Beled-Hawa.

Yesterday one man died for raping one woman.

If Janan isn't given the ultimate sentence, he should share the same fate as Abu Mansuur and others.

He should be held in confinement in Mogadishu.

Do not even transfer him to Gedo.

Also, anyone coming over right now if they are officers/leaders should be barred from Jubbaland and confined in Mogadishu.

Any foot soldiers or low-level people should be isolated and quarantined for rehabilitation.

Little bit ago, I said Kenya and her allies will change strategy. Marehan will be wined and danced. They will be crowned.

There must not be 5th columns and plants in our ranks.

[Murax]

I am someone who uses logic over emotion. As a Marexaan Gedood I want Janaan tird to a tree, tortured, and executed. However with everything in life, it comes down to cost benefit analysis. He may be more useful in the overall grand scheme of things with regard to restoring Dawladnimo as a dutiful prisoner to the FGS in permanent house arrest, instead of dead. However this world is short. The blood he has on his hands, he will have to answer for in Aakhira. A day will come when even animals with horns will have to pay back animals without horns, let alone a family that was lost to this criminal. There are a lot of other criminals beside Janaan i.e Dahir Aweis, Roobow, but in my mind they are 100x better than Janaan.


I have a better idea than all of that though. He was wanted by some UN agency for crimes, why not just hand him over to them? That will check the boxes with Beesha 6aad.

[Gubbet]

Murax I share your overall position with 2 differences.

1. I am not willing to say don't give him the ultimate punishment. I am willing to say I will accept the judgement authorities give him up to held and confined to Mogadishu like the other man and banned from the territory in which he started conflict. Let them decide his benefit worth more than the Iron Price, but I and many others will not accept anything less than what befell Abu Mansuur. Not even 0.1% less.

2. Somalia should not give him to anyone. Somalia should own the responsibility for administering her justice. More than anything a government administers law and order. Somalia needs to show now more than ever that it has a government. Any crime that took place on Somalia soil is under the jurisdiction of Somalia. Any crime that took place outside Somalia soil should result in extradition. Janan is not a case for extradition.

[barbarossa]

I am someone who uses logic over emotion. As a Marexaan Gedood I want Janaan tird to a tree, tortured, and executed. However with everything in life, it comes down to cost benefit analysis. He may be more useful in the overall grand scheme of things with regard to restoring Dawladnimo as a dutiful prisoner to the FGS in permanent house arrest, instead of dead. However this world is short. The blood he has on his hands, he will have to answer for in Aakhira. A day will come when even animals with horns will have to pay back animals without horns, let alone a family that was lost to this criminal. There are a lot of other criminals beside Janaan i.e Dahir Aweis, Roobow, but in my mind they are 100x better than Janaan.


I have a better idea than all of that though. He was wanted by some UN agency for crimes, why not just hand him over to them? That will check the boxes with Beesha 6aad.
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Yes Murax, for all the atrocities he allegedly committed over the years, Scarface seems a perfect candidate for setting a precedent as the first Skinny ever to face the Hague for crimes against humanity.

[grandpakhalif]

Janan may play a major role in the capture of Kismaayo, as Madoobe former right hand he has access to valuable intelligence in the inner workings of the Ras Kambooni. He is more useful on the field than in prison (closely monitered by SNA of course)

[Sbashi]

Janan may play a major role in the capture of Kismaayo, as Madoobe former right hand he has access to valuable intelligence in the inner workings of the Ras Kambooni. He is more useful on the field than in prison (closely monitered by SNA of course)

No way this guy will EVER be used in the field. If he has any info he will give it in Mogadishu, and then that's the end of it.

[Phinks]

Kenya has finally seen things for what they are, guess there's no point in keeping these lapdogs on their payroll.

[grandpakhalif]

The home of Cabdirashiid Janan was ransacked today by gaajo Rer Abdulle soldiers in kismaayo. Madoobe only managed to loot some tuutes and a few bullets and some sonkor Wuxuu gaaja badana

[Sbashi]

The home of Cabdirashiid Janan was ransacked today by gaajo Rer Abdulle soldiers in kismaayo. Madoobe only managed to loot some tuutes and a few bullets and some sonkor Wuxuu gaaja badana

Once a refugee always a refugee. They were looking for caano booro, sugar and the blankets LOL.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

An entire family including 6 of their children died in one set of casualties in the war he led on Beled-Hawa.

Yesterday one man died for raping one woman.

If Janan isn't given the ultimate sentence, he should share the same fate as Abu Mansuur and others.

He should be held in confinement in Mogadishu.

Do not even transfer him to Gedo.

Also, anyone coming over right now if they are officers/leaders should be barred from Jubbaland and confined in Mogadishu.

Any foot soldiers or low-level people should be isolated and quarantined for rehabilitation.

Little bit ago, I said Kenya and her allies will change strategy. Marehan will be wined and danced. They will be crowned.

There must not be 5th columns and plants in our ranks.

The younger Marehans don’t want anybody from the Madobe era. They are toxic and out of step to us. Seems like the feeling is not just me and grandpa

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

Na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na, Hey Hey Hey, Good Bye Janaan.

[Gubbet]

An entire family including 6 of their children died in one set of casualties in the war he led on Beled-Hawa.

Yesterday one man died for raping one woman.

If Janan isn't given the ultimate sentence, he should share the same fate as Abu Mansuur and others.

He should be held in confinement in Mogadishu.

Do not even transfer him to Gedo.

Also, anyone coming over right now if they are officers/leaders should be barred from Jubbaland and confined in Mogadishu.

Any foot soldiers or low-level people should be isolated and quarantined for rehabilitation.

Little bit ago, I said Kenya and her allies will change strategy. Marehan will be wined and danced. They will be crowned.

There must not be 5th columns and plants in our ranks.

The younger Marehans don’t want anybody from the Madobe era. They are toxic and out of step to us. Seems like the feeling is not just me and grandpa

Saddam,

Do you recall what my position was when Janan was arrested?

What was my position even when he escaped?

What was my position even when he sought shelter in Kenya.

What was my position on Janan until the first bullet was shot in Beled-Hawa as a result of this issue?

If you do not recall, I will remind you because it is important; in fact it is vital to show why I fundamentally disagree with your reason for your position.

You and whoever else has every right to stick to that position, but you cannot be allowed to do so on a fundamentally false basis.

And that's really what this whataboutism is, it is built on false grounds.

Stick to, argue, and convince the clan of your position.

It is a valid position.

But you cannot to do it on a false whataboutism that downplays exactly what Janan et all did and falsely equates an unpopular action (having been part of Madoobe Jubba) with direct, bloody hands.

That is literally the meaning of injustice.