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Yes, Sagal was disproportionately attacked because she is a woman. And yes, Hodan Somali was attacked at that level because she is a woman.

Why is noticing this fact being a liberal? Why is it feminist to say our highly conservative, agnatically tribal almost feudalistic paternal culture reserves different treatment for women ?

I mean those attributes of the culture are basic facts and any culture with those attributes would similarly display the same output.

If one notices there is a special bias or prejudice against "Marehan" (for example) based on a thinly disguised generalization that "Marehan" are predisposed towards autocracy and that the Somali political culture is quick to attack Marehan politician with "dictator"----is that person (YOU GUYS) being sensitive or you observed an obvious fact?


Quickly;

1.Sagal is a politician and my political views are different to hers. In fact, I commented when she was contributing to drought advocacy and it was literally some childish, vicious, counter productive personal attacks . That was focking based on a genderized anger.

2. Marehannhad Alankeey, rarely do they bring this guy up who has distinguished himself for extreme opposition to everything Marehan. Alankeey waa nin sharaf leh oo meel marayo. If today he showed any small advocacy for Marehan ---PRAISE GOD, ILAAHAY BAA SOO CELIYEY.

3. Marehan has Janan who literally has blood on his hands. He is a King among men today.

4. This passive-aggrressive devil, Nine, thinking I am going to be affected by his small attempt at manipulation trying to use the sub-clannish card literally---I mean quite LITERALLY is an example of this weird genderized rage I mentioned even COMPARING a man who is literally the longest existing faction leader/strongman with Sagal Biixi, a woman who just happens to have different political views.
:lo:

5. Finally, don't even focking use we need a change card. That is where I am and have been for along time. The issue is not about "change" here. The issue is a culture defect hiding behind "change."

I wish I can see a Ainte type or even ABDISALAM CAATO WHO IS 100% COMPARABLE TO HODANSOMALI get 1/4 as much energy and rage.

I would actually crack open a snickers bar and enjoy.

But they only have energy to scream at Hodan or something :meles:
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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:40 pm


This nigga trolling me bro


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No Sah, I no lie or joke bout this subject, I stand by alls I said 8-)
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Nine,

I want all the Madobe era stooges gone. I don’t care about rehabilitating any of them. I don’t care if she’s the daughter of Isaaq Bixi or not. Janan, her, Ina Siyaad, Alankey, Fartaag are all traitors to me and shouldn’t have a role in future MX politics. She was silent in our darkest time and tweeting irrelevant shit while KDF bombs were killing us. People ask why I’m so pro Moalimu? He was the only to stand up to Kenya publicly and aggressively. Not even ina Farmaajo ever had the same fortitude to do the same. He did the President but not on the level I wanted. Ina Sayid is the same sub as me but I detest him the most. My views are on principle. I want her seat contested. She deserves to be voted out like all Madobe era MPs. I don’t care she’s a woman or even an alien bro. I want a break with the past. I’m sophisticated enough to relay that to other MXs and not attack her publicly. It’s the place of MX women to challenge her and set her right. Funny thing is, they are. I have my opinion and stance. But this isn’t my job. I didn’t wanna say all this in public. But you kinda forced my hand. That’s my honest opinion on all Gedo MPs. Replace them all.
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Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:36 am 4. This passive-aggrressive devil, Nine, thinking I am going to be affected by his small attempt at manipulation trying to use the sub-clannish card literally---I mean quite LITERALLY is an example of this weird genderized rage I mentioned even COMPARING a man who is literally the longest existing faction leader/strongman with Sagal Biixi, a woman who just happens to have different political views.
:lo:
I despise both Male and Female useless politicians and traitor politicians. Cirro or Sagal Bihi or my Adeer Abdi Shire. YOU are discriminatory giving one oreference over the other. YOU are the sub clannist defending Sagal Bihi when I despise Abdi Shire as much as Cirro or Ina Sayid.

When Marehan were at our lowest they were silent and being neefs or being like Cirro and Aw Libaax and Fartaag. They all should be rounded up. Useless politicians locked up or banned from politics and traitors executed.

Tuuf Caleyk bilaa dhiig baa tahay like vast majority of MX politicians.
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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:41 pm Nine,

I want all the Madobe era stooges gone. I don’t care about rehabilitating any of them. I don’t care if she’s the daughter of Isaaq Bixi or not. Janan, her, Ina Siyaad, Alankey, Fartaag are all traitors to me and shouldn’t have a role in future MX politics. She was silent in our darkest time and tweeting irrelevant shit while KDF bombs were killing us. People ask why I’m so pro Moalimu? He was the only to stand up to Kenya publicly and aggressively. Not even ina Farmaajo ever had the same fortitude to do the same. He did the President but not on the level I wanted. Ina Sayid is the same sub as me but I detest him the most. My views are on principle. I want her seat contested. She deserves to be voted out like all Madobe era MPs. I don’t care she’s a woman or even an alien bro. I want a break with the past. I’m sophisticated enough to relay that to other MXs and not attack her publicly. It’s the place of MX women to challenge her and set her right. Funny thing is, they are. I have my opinion and stance. But this isn’t my job.

Spot on. Voltage is a neef like them. You wont see Deni or MJs spouting Garowe Somali baa leh but MX would says Bardera Somali baa leh.
Our issue is Bilaa dhiig and/or traitors. Other clans have traitors too. But the other non triator politicians help their clan and are not utter imbeciles like ours.
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nine wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:54 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:36 am 4. This passive-aggrressive devil, Nine, thinking I am going to be affected by his small attempt at manipulation trying to use the sub-clannish card literally---I mean quite LITERALLY is an example of this weird genderized rage I mentioned even COMPARING a man who is literally the longest existing faction leader/strongman with Sagal Biixi, a woman who just happens to have different political views.
:lo:
I despise both Male and Female useless politicians and traitor politicians. Cirro or Sagal Bihi or my Adeer Abdi Shire. YOU are discriminatory giving one oreference over the other. YOU are the sub clannist.
When Marehan were at out lowest they were silent and being neefs or being like Cirro and Aw Libaax. They all should be rounded up. Useless politicians like locked up and traitors executed.

Tuuf Caleyk bilaa dhiig baa tahay.

You're too much. I already saw your little cheap shot---and I still say---No, they are not the same.

Thay is called manipulative whataboutism.

It is what Donald Trump did that completely wrecked his Presidency and whatever is written about him until infinity.

Do you think people approved of Antifa or thought all the protestors on the Left were angels on Charlottesville?

No, but the fact Trump tries to compare the incomparable in a manipulative whataboutism complete removed the Left from even being talked about.

I want change if you want change.

But hands that DIRECTLY have blood and murder need to be identified in blood and murder if for anything to honor and dignify the innocent live that was cut short by that hand.


That is not at all, in any way, shape, or form comparable to a politician whom you are disappointed with or even disagree with.

You look mighty young and immature right now.
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Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:07 pm
nine wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:54 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:36 am 4. This passive-aggrressive devil, Nine, thinking I am going to be affected by his small attempt at manipulation trying to use the sub-clannish card literally---I mean quite LITERALLY is an example of this weird genderized rage I mentioned even COMPARING a man who is literally the longest existing faction leader/strongman with Sagal Biixi, a woman who just happens to have different political views.
:lo:
I despise both Male and Female useless politicians and traitor politicians. Cirro or Sagal Bihi or my Adeer Abdi Shire. YOU are discriminatory giving one oreference over the other. YOU are the sub clannist.
When Marehan were at out lowest they were silent and being neefs or being like Cirro and Aw Libaax. They all should be rounded up. Useless politicians like locked up and traitors executed.

Tuuf Caleyk bilaa dhiig baa tahay.

You're too much. I already saw your little cheap shot---and I still say---No, they are not the same.

Thay is called manipulative whataboutism.

It is what Donald Trump did that completely wrecked his Presidency and whatever is written about him until infinity.

Do you think people approved of Antifa or thought all the protestors on the Left were angels on Charlottesville?

No, but the fact Trump tries to compare the incomparable in a manipulative whataboutism complete removed the Left from even being talked about.

I want change if you want change.

But hands that DIRECTLY have blood and murder need to be identified in blood and murder if for anything to honor and dignify the innocent live that was cut short by that hand.


That is not at all, in any way, shape, or form comparable to a politician whom you are disappointed with or even disagree with.

You look mighty young and immature right now.

Somalis is 4.5 that means you represent your sub clan and Marehan. If you decide to be a dabodhilif or a neef get out. You are arguing for people who are at best useless which can be seen as praise for them.
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This was also my view on MP Dalays AFTER she and Farmaajo gov had problems.

My positions are actually straight forward linear attempt at substantive and not surface understandings.

It is not cheap and surface.
Honestly though, for her to have become an MP, it must have been with the permission of Mohamud Sayid Addan considering the supreme control he has had in reer Hassan for a long time. I would not be surprised if current politics has pulled her in to defend her possible patron.

After all, look at the reer Siyaad MP; the favorite daughter of Isaaq Biix from his favorite Wagardhac wife. The same Isaaq Biixi who similarly had a chokehold on reer Siyaad politics opposite to Mohamud Sayid's reer Xassan starting from late 90's.

So I would not be surprised if Dalays would be working to defend Mohamud Sayid.

It doesn't take away from her active lobbying to represent the region well
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Wanting them all gone is cheap and surface? Dalays can go too. All of them can go. Sorry Voltage, I don’t respect incompetency. It is what it is. I have different opinions than you, I see the world different than you. All the current MX MPs are failures and the reason why Gedo isn’t up to par with the rest of the country, development wise. They were all handpicked by Madobe
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Guys

Don't insult yourself and don't insult me.

You know very well you can oppose two people and still be bound by the moral decency to know the thief isn't the murderer.
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Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:24 pm Guys

Don't insult yourself and don't insult me.

You know very well you can oppose two people and still be bound by the moral decency to know the thief isn't the murderer.

Both the thief and the murderer are destructive criminals. Two shades of grey. Dare I say cut from the same cloth. One brandishes a gun while the other a suit. The thief is complicit or at best silent in the face of the murderer. Your analogy on our politicians is spot on.
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Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:24 pm Guys

Don't insult yourself and don't insult me.

You know very well you can oppose two people and still be bound by the moral decency to know the thief isn't the murderer.

Moral victories is for minor league coaches. We want horumar and dib o dhis in our regions. Not gender equality and all that first world nacnac bro.
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Gubbet wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:17 pm This was also my view on MP Dalays AFTER she and Farmaajo gov had problems.

My positions are actually straight forward linear attempt at substantive and not surface understandings.

It is not cheap and surface.
Honestly though, for her to have become an MP, it must have been with the permission of Mohamud Sayid Addan considering the supreme control he has had in reer Hassan for a long time. I would not be surprised if current politics has pulled her in to defend her possible patron.

After all, look at the reer Siyaad MP; the favorite daughter of Isaaq Biix from his favorite Wagardhac wife. The same Isaaq Biixi who similarly had a chokehold on reer Siyaad politics opposite to Mohamud Sayid's reer Xassan starting from late 90's.

So I would not be surprised if Dalays would be working to defend Mohamud Sayid.

It doesn't take away from her active lobbying to represent the region well
Diloays is the worst MX mp hands down. For starters, she wasn't selected by mx odayaal but by jareer odayaal in mohamed sayid's house. What happened to the odayaal of reer hassan you ask? Well, they were beaten the SHET out of when they tried to vote and got sent to mogadishu in a miserable state. When reer hassan told her stop what you're doing she said and I quote "reer hassan, waqmaashe iyo aabahood ana waso".

What got her the kursi wasn't mohamud sayid but her really close almost coupley relationship with Janan. Then to add insult to injury, duxuleysta tells mohamed sayid that her election was the only xalal election of mx mps!!

Then she takes the reer hassan ugaas to Kismayo and delivers him into Madoobe's hands. She is his niece btw, so she convinced the ugaas that farmaajo treated him bad and madoobe would treat him better. She is a real idiot, even the mucaraad kaliil was against the ugaas being anywhere near kismayo. Now the ugaas is stuck in kismayo being used by madoobe to hold press conferences. Forget about talking about gedo issues, she is a criminal that is actively sabotaging mx. Sagal bixi is an angel compared to this nacalad that works for madoobe directly.
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This is why you need 1M1V folks. Imagine if people from Doolow to Baardheere got to vote for a candidate they truly believe in, or imagine if people actually had to campaign?
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Post by grandpakhalif »

Im sorry but am proud for what Cabdishakuur Cali Mire and Senator Goonjeex has done for my regions. Goonjeex really helped my family in times of need. Heck even that Reer Xirsi guy Farxaan Xassan Cabdi built a well in Hulkujir. Lets not paint all MX MPs with one brush. We have may rotten apples for sure
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