Habar Yoonis a great Somali Clan of the Past

[Nomand]

Khalid Ali,

I have noticed you have a deep hatred for my brothers warsangali, you hate them more then marehan what's up with that?

[Togdeer]

Guys with all due respect Isaaq in Somali terms are too small to have their sub-clans known by the ordinary Somali. To Somalis you’re known as Isaaq at best. Let’s be macquul.

To be honest we see all reer Somalia the same. Back home anyone from Somalia we call them “reer xamar” plus the average citizen doesn’t know about your clans

[TheGrumpyGeeljire]

I have never heard of isaaq living in doolo/wardheer district.

Doolo/wardheer district is where all darod with the exception of warsangali meet.

You have marehan, ogaden, dhulbahante, leelkase and majerteen.

Have you ever been to Danood? It's a HY deegaan and part of Wardheer district.

[Khalid Ali]

Nomand I don't hate wasakhgalis more then your marexaan or vica versa all jabartis are basically the same for me.

[Nomand]

I have never heard of isaaq living in doolo/wardheer district.

Doolo/wardheer district is where all darod with the exception of warsangali meet.

You have marehan, ogaden, dhulbahante, leelkase and majerteen.

Have you ever been to Danood? It's a HY deegaan and part of Wardheer district.

i haven't been to danood but i know danood is DH territory

[Nomand]

Nomand I don't hate wasakhgalis more then your marexaan or vica versa all jabartis are basically the same for me.

no sxb, i have never seen you say Warsangeli correctly.

[Gubbet]

It's true I have always thought there was something personal betweem Khalid and Warsangeli. I have seen this guy praise even Jajuuj iyo Majuuj once but never Warsangeli or even saying their name correctly.

The only reason that you view Reer Sheikh Isxaaq as a smaller clan than Daarood is because of the fact that we are the most united Somali clan with the biggest collective economic, political and military power, who happen to live in one continuous mass of land stretching from the Doolo deep in the Hawd all the way to villages in the coastal regions of Awdal.

Not to interefere, but that's quite literally as "scientific" or "intellectual" as it gets for defending a thesis identifying a lineage as "small" in the Somali segmentary lineage system.

Does that make sense?

Those qualities are actually and ironically the basis for calling a Somali clan "small."

Because the very basis of expanding and growing necessitates the opposite, i.e. moving apart down to two households or "reer" betwerm two brothers.

The bigger the clan --> the more powerful the security guarantee ---> the more resources available ---> the more the units subdivided and branched out --> the greater the available resources---> the lower the vulnerabilities requiring unity ---> the less common bonds needes to be "replenished"---> Outgrowth -> Fissure ---> Repeat again

Somali's segmentary lineage system is explicity anarchic and anti-unity actually.

They weren't settled farmers, they were nomads constsntly on the move ready to split off down to the lowest unit.

Unity, collective, amd all the other stuff are actuallt strategies of vulnerability in that system.

[Khalid Ali]

I have never heard of isaaq living in doolo/wardheer district.

Doolo/wardheer district is where all darod with the exception of warsangali meet.

You have marehan, ogaden, dhulbahante, leelkase and majerteen.

Have you ever been to Danood? It's a HY deegaan and part of Wardheer district.

i haven't been to danood but i know danood is DH territory

Dannot is the border between Isaaq and darod in Ethiopia. The Great king haile selassie made this border. The reer caynaashe hy er well represented there.