Mooge excluded from the new signatories, elections to take place in 90 days

[sahal80]

Perfect Order

so you admit your abtiyaal leadership in JL?

This is about Gedo not something par hasard like Mooge or Dblock pm based on 4.5 wich is up to the sitting president. mooge is already ousted havent you heard him admitting today "hogaaminta rooble ee doorashada" so have your 60 days until real president moves in

we all know how most in Xamar have done with you. Daljir guys who voted for Mooge suggesting ex Hips director hashi(leelkase )these guys r with Deni along hassan sheekh so you have some suggesting Hashi as a pm to back Hassan Sheekh vs Hassan Sh And Deni campaign on the other hand you gave Sh sharif and OG campaign there is no single HAG group that r interesting in you any more even your hawiye Co vice president his abtigiis Lugadheere is heading to Xamar working on Rooble-OG/Sheekhaal alliance! the Rooble you think he is working for Mooge is in secret campaign.




Geo

yes Imbow. there are well known politicians from Hirshabelle from both sides and we talk about post-Mooge Hirshabelle and bc of Guudlaawe switching sides or let us say he was forced to do so after the defection of Abgaal ciidan the Abgaal candidates suggested to move the capital quickly to Baladweyne and appoint strong Hawadle General in lamagalaay as chief of Hirshabelle police if not 27naad through Rooble so Guudlaawe can move there.

Fahad and Mooges "Xaqsoor" policy has totally failed so where they can go now except Hawadle? i think we r much smarter to be used by them so we have to sort out things with the Abgaal.

[SultanOrder]

Sahal,

I think you misunderstand those of us on the marexaan side. Yes we don’t see Madoobe as legitimate but we see Jubbaland as legitimate. Madoobe is a shaqsi that has highjacked Jubbaland. Unlike Xawaadle that is so insecure they will abandon Hirshabelle if they can’t secure their position we as marexaan are confident that we will end up on top in Jubbaland and so we will never abandon it.

The current issue was about making sure we had autonomy of our election process in Garbaharay. President Farmaajo fought for that, PM Rooble worked it out in the Baido Agreement, and this was solidified now again. So Farmaajo and Rooble made sure we got what we wanted.

You keep trying to change the narrative, trying to make it seem we lost something. The Agreement of Feb 16 is what we were happy and three months later it’s what Madoobe has to accept. You don’t see us crying or unhappy. We said this was going to be the deal in Gedo and we were right.

[Nomand]

That's true MX are pro free jubbaland without amisom. Xawaadle are anti hiirshabeele or a hiirshabeele that is based on a gentleman's agreement.

Where you use state resources against other clans and stop them from building a bridge.

[Murax]

Guys to be fair Sahal gave up on the Gentleman’s agreement stuff ages ago, shouldn’t be held against him

[Gubbet]

I really think there is NOT a lot of intelligence from the opposition.

That is why you have this topic and the complete lack of understanding about what happened and what became of every September Agreement side's original position as Perfect Order, like a Kindergarten teacher, complete makes Sahal the kindergartner understand what the entire misunderstanding is.

Maybe we need a diagram to shoe the babies visuals since words are too big to comprehend

[Xoogjire]

Sahal the xamaali has siege mentality with all the other 10 qabiils in Hiiraan he is afraid of,so he no longer believes in gentlemans agreement he is now an abgaal kastuumo , he is so afraid of the other 10 qabiils who live in beledweyne that he and his tol began to suck up or baryo to abgaals to give a left over bone lol,

[sahal80]

Sahal,

I think you misunderstand those of us on the marexaan side. Yes we don’t see Madoobe as legitimate but we see Jubbaland as legitimate. Madoobe is a shaqsi that has highjacked Jubbaland. Unlike Xawaadle that is so insecure they will abandon Hirshabelle if they can’t secure their position we as marexaan are confident that we will end up on top in Jubbaland and so we will never abandon it.

The current issue was about making sure we had autonomy of our election process in Garbaharay. President Farmaajo fought for that, PM Rooble worked it out in the Baido Agreement, and this was solidified now again. So Farmaajo and Rooble made sure we got what we wanted.

You keep trying to change the narrative, trying to make it seem we lost something. The Agreement of Feb 16 is what we were happy and three months later it’s what Madoobe has to accept. You don’t see us crying or unhappy. We said this was going to be the deal in Gedo and we were right.

JL was created by Kablalah supported by Kenya while mx were badly divided having three admins so some have joined it like aw libaax who had relations with Faroole and other southern mxs.


Hirshabelle=Hiiraan 70% and Jowhar 30%
Hiiraan led by Hawadle and Jowhar led by Abgaal. labadaas gobol ayaa wax isku darsadey qolo madaxweynahay qaadatey qolana Caasimada iyo vice presidentga. That is gentleman's agreement wich Hawadle will not accept a substitute for it. their position is that if you need to change things you need a new agreement soo wareeji waxaad shaley qaadatey but you can't before that. your failmaajo who failed in every thing even in his own JL fucked up this State but as he gone now the gentleman's agreement is back. JL conflict Mx vs Kablalah conflict has been there since the mid 90s and its about Kismaayo nothing has to do with federalism the case of Hirshabelle. alot of OGs and MJs prefer Gedo to join KG but you dont want bc of Kismaayo while we have no conflict on Jowhar or Hiiraan so it doesnt work without the other region. you all are fighting on Kismaayo wich is clearly won by OG and there is no share for Gedo like the captal its about the two jubbas even theoratically( zubair vs cawlyahan) that why mooge tried to move the capital to buaale to install cawlyahan.

what autonomy? Garbahareey will be Madoobe enclave inside pro mooge Gedo but onces he goes Madoobe will annex the whole Gedo

[Murax]

Sahal,

All fair Ustaadh but you didn't refute Sultan Order's point that you are a spectator watching as a spectator Xawaadle ahaan. Farmaajo is a sitting President, HirShabeele represented by Emir Guudlaawe but yaa ku matalaayo? Guudlaawe a Non Xawaadle. You might say that it's 2021 be Reer Magaal, and I'd agree with you lakin if we're using your logic then you are not even in the game. Battling what are known as 0.5 clans in Hiiraan over a bridge

[grandpakhalif]

Sahal the xamaali has siege mentality with all the other 10 qabiils in Hiiraan he is afraid of,so he no longer believes in gentlemans agreement he is now an abgaal kastuumo , he is so afraid of the other 10 qabiils who live in beledweyne that he and his tol began to suck up or baryo to abgaals to give a left over bone lol,

Kkkkk war ninka wa laga badiye thats why hes attacking MX to distract that abgaal controls his MP selection. War go beg Abkoowe for ur MPs in Jowhar shuubayahay

[sahal80]

Sahal,

All fair Ustaadh but you didn't refute Sultan Order's point that you are a spectator watching as a spectator Xawaadle ahaan. Farmaajo is a sitting President, HirShabeele represented by Emir Guudlaawe but yaa ku matalaayo? Guudlaawe a Non Xawaadle. You might say that it's 2021 be Reer Magaal, and I'd agree with you lakin if we're using your logic then you are not even in the game. Battling what are known as 0.5 clans in Hiiraan over a bridge

we had our 4 years and for Abgaal to run it they must give us everything we gave them yesterday. i do'nt think you will ever make such deal in JL go first and get non shared vice president before you can get the capital

[Xoogjire]

Sahal the xamaali has siege mentality with all the other 10 qabiils in Hiiraan he is afraid of,so he no longer believes in gentlemans agreement he is now an abgaal kastuumo , he is so afraid of the other 10 qabiils who live in beledweyne that he and his tol began to suck up or baryo to abgaals to give a left over bone lol,

Kkkkk war ninka wa laga badiye thats why hes attacking MX to distract that abgaal controls his MP selection. War go beg Abkoowe for ur MPs in Jowhar shuubayahay

Sahal has siege mentality he prefers being the aggressor of the jareers iyo wixi masakiin than being an victims to abgaals, so because of that he and his tol became kastuumo abgaals for protections from other clans in Hiiraan

[Murax]

Sahal,

All fair Ustaadh but you didn't refute Sultan Order's point that you are a spectator watching as a spectator Xawaadle ahaan. Farmaajo is a sitting President, HirShabeele represented by Emir Guudlaawe but yaa ku matalaayo? Guudlaawe a Non Xawaadle. You might say that it's 2021 be Reer Magaal, and I'd agree with you lakin if we're using your logic then you are not even in the game. Battling what are known as 0.5 clans in Hiiraan over a bridge

we had our 4 years and for Abgaal to run it they must give us everything we gave them yesterday. i do'nt think you will ever make such deal in JL go first and get non shared vice president before you can get the capital

Dude no offense but Jubbaland is way bigger a prize than HirShabeele. From Doolow, Ethiopia to the Indian Ocean. Even with Presidency, being Mucaarad MX, with a Kenyan nation state enemy backign Shantabaq have as much equity in that state than you have in tiny insignificant in comparison HirShabeele. From latest reports tabartaada doesn't even extend to masaakiin 0.5 clans let alone national politics

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

This narrative that MXs are divided is bullshit. None of the so called mucarad MXs can’t even step into the holy land of Gedo. That should tell you everything on how the people feel.

[grandpakhalif]

Sahal the xamaali has siege mentality with all the other 10 qabiils in Hiiraan he is afraid of,so he no longer believes in gentlemans agreement he is now an abgaal kastuumo , he is so afraid of the other 10 qabiils who live in beledweyne that he and his tol began to suck up or baryo to abgaals to give a left over bone lol,

Kkkkk war ninka wa laga badiye thats why hes attacking MX to distract that abgaal controls his MP selection. War go beg Abkoowe for ur MPs in Jowhar shuubayahay

Sahal has siege mentality he prefers being the aggressor of the jareers iyo wixi masakiin than being an victims to abgaals, so because of that he and his tol became kastuumo abgaals for protections from other clans in Hiiraan

Kkkk jareerka deefoow buunda u diida ka adagyahay miskiin seria b ku jira

[SultanOrder]

Sahal,

I think you misunderstand those of us on the marexaan side. Yes we don’t see Madoobe as legitimate but we see Jubbaland as legitimate. Madoobe is a shaqsi that has highjacked Jubbaland. Unlike Xawaadle that is so insecure they will abandon Hirshabelle if they can’t secure their position we as marexaan are confident that we will end up on top in Jubbaland and so we will never abandon it.

The current issue was about making sure we had autonomy of our election process in Garbaharay. President Farmaajo fought for that, PM Rooble worked it out in the Baido Agreement, and this was solidified now again. So Farmaajo and Rooble made sure we got what we wanted.

You keep trying to change the narrative, trying to make it seem we lost something. The Agreement of Feb 16 is what we were happy and three months later it’s what Madoobe has to accept. You don’t see us crying or unhappy. We said this was going to be the deal in Gedo and we were right.

JL was created by Kablalah supported by Kenya while mx were badly divided having three admins so some have joined it like aw libaax who had relations with Faroole and other southern mxs.


Hirshabelle=Hiiraan 70% and Jowhar 30%
Hiiraan led by Hawadle and Jowhar led by Abgaal. labadaas gobol ayaa wax isku darsadey qolo madaxweynahay qaadatey qolana Caasimada iyo vice presidentga. That is gentleman's agreement wich Hawadle will not accept a substitute for it. their position is that if you need to change things you need a new agreement soo wareeji waxaad shaley qaadatey but you can't before that. your failmaajo who failed in every thing even in his own JL fucked up this State but as he gone now the gentleman's agreement is back. JL conflict Mx vs Kablalah conflict has been there since the mid 90s and its about Kismaayo nothing has to do with federalism the case of Hirshabelle. alot of OGs and MJs prefer Gedo to join KG but you dont want bc of Kismaayo while we have no conflict on Jowhar or Hiiraan so it doesnt work without the other region. you all are fighting on Kismaayo wich is clearly won by OG and there is no share for Gedo like the captal its about the two jubbas even theoratically( zubair vs cawlyahan) that why mooge tried to move the capital to buaale to install cawlyahan.

what autonomy? Garbahareey will be Madoobe enclave inside pro mooge Gedo but onces he goes Madoobe will annex the whole Gedo

Sahal, that actually makes Xawaadle look worse. If Hiiraan is 70% then we wouldn’t have had this discussion today. Hiiraan would be a contentious issue enough to stop the elections. Remember it was Gedo and SL that were the biggest issue for the last six months.

Either way, I hope the best for Xawaadle and for Hirshabelle. I hope everything works out in a just and xalal way. I have nothing against y’all, as a Bah-Xawaadle I wasn’t justice for my awoowayaal, let the bah darandoole support Abgal.