The people of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn send a strong message against separatism

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Re: The people of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn send a strong message against separatism

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paperino wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:54 am
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:22 am Why hasn’t Somaliland put secession as a referendum. Clearest way to end the deadlock me thinks.
In order to hold a UN sponsored referendum, there has to be a valid/legal reason which Waqooyi Galbeed lacks. The region is tribal based, doesn't have a different haplogroup, religion, language, culture, etc. Essentially, a reer Waqooyi is 99.99% just like a Puntlander, 'koonfurian', etc.
Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:12 am It did in 2001 and it was 97 pro Somaliland.
Now if u want a new referendum then it has to be authorised by the United nations and supervised. This will result to Somaliland globe wide recognition after the referendum becomes successful. Are you ready for that.
You're mistaken; the 2001 wasn't UN sponsored/supervised. And anytime you've 97% outcome, it's automatically sham.
This broken record just repeats the same nonsense over and over again...

Why is Djabouti a country then Mr we are all the same people and can't be two countries. They are Somali too right?
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Re: The people of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn send a strong message against separatism

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paperino wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:54 am
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:22 am Why hasn’t Somaliland put secession as a referendum. Clearest way to end the deadlock me thinks.
In order to hold a UN sponsored referendum, there has to be a valid/legal reason which Waqooyi Galbeed lacks. The region is tribal based, doesn't have a different haplogroup, religion, language, culture, etc. Essentially, a reer Waqooyi is 99.99% just like a Puntlander, 'koonfurian', etc.
Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:12 am It did in 2001 and it was 97 pro Somaliland.
Now if u want a new referendum then it has to be authorised by the United nations and supervised. This will result to Somaliland globe wide recognition after the referendum becomes successful. Are you ready for that.
You're mistaken; the 2001 wasn't UN sponsored/supervised. And anytime you've 97% outcome, it's automatically sham.
For us democracy is a way to entertain the West and build our international reputation. but in reality we control the Land through military means. Even when it comes to referendum we won't allow unless we are fully in control of it's outcome. We are not afraid to be challenged because somalia destroyed itself the moment they took the federal system.

There will never be a unified Somali army that can invade somaliland. For example No habar gidir Will ever die for a puntland cause. The same State that's illegally occupied nothern mudug. With or without recognition Somaliland will survive and all it's citizens will accept the reality whether they are happy or not. If Ethiopia and Kenya can manage it's somali subjects. Sure we can .
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61 out of 82 mp’s are one clan (Isaaq). They call puntland majerteenia but they are even worse. The world will not recognize a small tribal region.
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Re: The people of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn send a strong message against separatism

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skywalker25 wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:09 am
paperino wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:54 am
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:22 am Why hasn’t Somaliland put secession as a referendum. Clearest way to end the deadlock me thinks.
In order to hold a UN sponsored referendum, there has to be a valid/legal reason which Waqooyi Galbeed lacks. The region is tribal based, doesn't have a different haplogroup, religion, language, culture, etc. Essentially, a reer Waqooyi is 99.99% just like a Puntlander, 'koonfurian', etc.
Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:12 am It did in 2001 and it was 97 pro Somaliland.
Now if u want a new referendum then it has to be authorised by the United nations and supervised. This will result to Somaliland globe wide recognition after the referendum becomes successful. Are you ready for that.
You're mistaken; the 2001 wasn't UN sponsored/supervised. And anytime you've 97% outcome, it's automatically sham.
This broken record just repeats the same nonsense over and over again...

Why is Djabouti a country then Mr we are all the same people and can't be two countries. They are Somali too right?
Djibouti is 50% Afar. You can’t seriously compare your small tribal state to Djibouti
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Re: The people of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn send a strong message against separatism

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paperino wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:54 am
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:22 am Why hasn’t Somaliland put secession as a referendum. Clearest way to end the deadlock me thinks.
In order to hold a UN sponsored referendum, there has to be a valid/legal reason which Waqooyi Galbeed lacks. The region is tribal based, doesn't have a different haplogroup, religion, language, culture, etc. Essentially, a reer Waqooyi is 99.99% just like a Puntlander, 'koonfurian', etc.
Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:12 am It did in 2001 and it was 97 pro Somaliland.
Now if u want a new referendum then it has to be authorised by the United nations and supervised. This will result to Somaliland globe wide recognition after the referendum becomes successful. Are you ready for that.
You're mistaken; the 2001 wasn't UN sponsored/supervised. And anytime you've 97% outcome, it's automatically sham.
I don’t want to offend Reer Hargeisa

But the basis Of the dreams is due to their small status in competing for political power with their own ethnic group.

Basically how can a triangle compete

With

3.5 ?
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Re: The people of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn send a strong message against separatism

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paperino wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:54 am
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:22 am Why hasn’t Somaliland put secession as a referendum. Clearest way to end the deadlock me thinks.
In order to hold a UN sponsored referendum, there has to be a valid/legal reason which Waqooyi Galbeed lacks. The region is tribal based, doesn't have a different haplogroup, religion, language, culture, etc. Essentially, a reer Waqooyi is 99.99% just like a Puntlander, 'koonfurian', etc.
Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:12 am It did in 2001 and it was 97 pro Somaliland.
Now if u want a new referendum then it has to be authorised by the United nations and supervised. This will result to Somaliland globe wide recognition after the referendum becomes successful. Are you ready for that.
You're mistaken; the 2001 wasn't UN sponsored/supervised. And anytime you've 97% outcome, it's automatically sham.

Nonsense a prime example is Eritrea. Eritrean ethnic groups all live on the other side of the border with Ethiopia. The majority tigrinya people of Eritrea are the same people as the people of Ethiopia tigray. The afars are in both Ethiopia and Eritrea. The irob saho both sides. Eritrea hada UN supervised referendum in 1993. And the UN had no problem. With it. Macadala waba Somaliland who absolutely share nothing with Somalia mom of the tribes of Somaliland live in Somalia gadabuursi ciise and isaaq form over 90 percent of the somaliland population. Ethnic jebertis are a minority in somaliland.
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MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:24 am 61 out of 82 mp’s are one clan (Isaaq). They call puntland majerteenia but they are even worse. The world will not recognize a small tribal region.
Your darod tribe is a tiny minority in Somaliland and we won’t allow affirmative action for darod no matter how much you cry and complain.

Act like men and pick up the gun or shut up ya dhabacyo


As for majeertenia, all the other darod have rejected you
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Mahoka, just give me a heads up on any planned incursions heading east into a particular area by the Indian Ocean

I want to make sure I have enough time to get my Cusmaan Maxmuud abti out of Boosaaso and little Cumar Maxmuud cousins from Gaalkacyo :MJ:
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Re: The people of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn send a strong message against separatism

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Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:06 am Nonsense a prime example is Eritrea. Eritrean ethnic groups all live on the other side of the border with Ethiopia. The majority tigrinya people of Eritrea are the same people as the people of Ethiopia tigray. The afars are in both Ethiopia and Eritrea. The irob saho both sides. Eritrea hada UN supervised referendum in 1993. And the UN had no problem. With it. Macadala waba Somaliland who absolutely share nothing with Somalia mom of the tribes of Somaliland live in Somalia gadabuursi ciise and isaaq form over 90 percent of the somaliland population. Ethnic jebertis are a minority in somaliland.
Bad analogy. Eritrea has nine ethnic groups, nine national languages and two major religions. Ethiopia has over 80 ethnic groups, two major (Semitic, Cushitic) and 88 individual languages, two major and a few minor religions. None of these two countries are as 99.99% homogeneous as Somalis. Furthermore, no two formerly colonized regions that voluntarily joined together have separated; no precedent. For instance, Cameroon had French & British colonized regions, rejoined after independence, and there's no such thing as what maamulka Waqooyi Galbeed is futility attempting to do.
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Re: The people of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn send a strong message against separatism

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I am just showing you that despite the hetrigenousity of Eritrean and Ethiopia. The world didn't say all of your ethnic groups live in all sides of each other counties form a union. Its because they decided to seperate based on colonial borders. And they did the same witb Somaliland and somalia. If Somalia and Somaliland share a same language but 2 different countries the world isn't going to say well you speak the same language have the same countries. There are 23 Arab counties in the world 3 swahilie counties. Somalia and Somaliland have to seperate countries prior to colonialism they have been to different countries during colonialism. And today for 30 years they have been 2 different nations. So Mr cad cad wanna be eat malawax.
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