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Re: Sharmaake crying about deni

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Phink & Mrsinister

what deni has done in the senate and will do in the parliament is that he put Deni first people and not puntland first. he hasn't put anyone who is not 10000 percent deni waterboy.

sharmaake hates Farmaajo just as much if not more than Deni. your farmaajo hatred has clouded your judgement and made you blind to the fact that deni has created a puntland where only his opinion matter, a puntland of yes men where there cannot be any disagreement with dear leader or face severe repercussions.

he is a dictator and we all know where dictators and their countries end up.
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Nomand wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:39 am Phink & Mrsinister

what deni has done in the senate and will do in the parliament is that he put Deni first people and not puntland first. he hasn't put anyone who is not 10000 percent deni waterboy.

sharmaake hates Farmaajo just as much if not more than Deni. your farmaajo hatred has clouded your judgement and made you blind to the fact that deni has created a puntland where only his opinion matter, a puntland of yes men where there cannot be any disagreement with dear leader or face severe repercussions.

he is a dictator and we all know where dictators and their countries end up.
There is no such thing as dictatorship in PL. you can argue there is a ruling elite. Clan dynamics means it will be impossible to have serious dictatorship. Even Abdullahi Yusuf transferred power. Deni is very popular in PL. remember he is a businessman who has never left Somalia/Pl,while historically most Somali politicians are from the diaspora. A lot of everyday citizens see this as a positive thing. They are tired of diaspora politicians who have very little stake in the country taking all of the big positions.
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He is a dictator bro. True and true, plus he is corrupt.

Oddly Abdiwali Gaas was very open government and not corrupt

Faroole has harsh personality but he actually was the most institutionally minded, he cared about advancing system that works. His only xan was he gathered the loose change in a personal savings.

Cadde Muuse was neither corrupt nor a daily governor, he was more like a head of state perched due to seniority recognized and he was the most reliant on the cabinet and departments.

Abdullahi Yusuf was a dictator with a cause, building democracy lol and being extremely anti-corruption, he was sort of a benevolent dictator/paternal strong man

Again abdiwali gaas was the most maturely practicing of free open government, puntland really blossomed where open informed confidence in government was concerned.

This guy is CORRUPT BEYOND CORRUPT and he is a bully for a self-deprecatingly identified non violent guy. HE LITERALLY RULES BY THE THREAT OF THE BARREL OF THE GUN.

He also allegedly spies on all his internal Puntland rivals, like bugging their meetongs.

Wallahi you guys are letting a monster like Idi Amin grow under your eyes. He will come back to puntland presidency. I won't be surprised if he becomes like thr Ahmed Madoobe of Puntland sitting in Garowe 10 years later, having all destroyed Puntland institutionally.

When you allow an authority to infer something personal about what explains where the authority comes from, even if you support him or this time, you are on borrowed time. Tomorrow it is against you and if not from him then the next Puntland leader you don't support. He should have never been allowed the extra-judicial armed bullying he was allowed to do to get ris of his political nemesis, the Pland ex speaker than way. Your goal working towards a mature system is to have a process not a conduct by personality.

Imagine if Trump was him and Dhoobo Nancy; that's not a healthy system. That's a sick system. And that was just the start
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Nomand and Gubbet

Deni is not this monster you have envisioned in your minds, maybe your bias is influencing your thoughts. Deni is a businessman, when he made that speech detailing the issues he had with Farmaajo, I did not see a ruthless dictator, but a man who was genuinely confused and blindsided by all this, he is of the office desk type, there's not a single hard bone in his body.

Secondly, a dictatorship cannot thrive in Puntland. The system is founded on a delicate balance between Cumar Maxamuud, Cisse Maxamuud and Cismaan Maxamuud. Isn't it funny how all these years, whether under Yusuf, Faroole, or Gaas, people kept talking about Puntland being ruled by some dictatorship? People will always have something to say. With every Puntland elections conclusion every MJ FMS leader stepped down gracefully without a fight, is it perfect? No. But it is simply impossible for one of the Maxamuuds to dominate the other two.
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Phinks wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:33 am Nomand and Gubbet

Deni is not this monster you have envisioned in your minds, maybe your bias is influencing your thoughts. Deni is a businessman, when he made that speech detailing the issues he had with Farmaajo, I did not see a ruthless dictator, but a man who was genuinely confused and blindsided by all this, he is of the office desk type, there's not a single hard bone in his body.

Secondly, a dictatorship cannot thrive in Puntland. The system is founded on a delicate balance between Cumar Maxamuud, Cisse Maxamuud and Cismaan Maxamuud. Isn't it funny how all these years, whether under Yusuf, Faroole, or Gaas, people kept talking about Puntland being ruled by some dictatorship? People will always have something to say. With every Puntland elections conclusion every MJ FMS leader stepped down gracefully without a fight, is it perfect? No. But it is simply impossible for one of the Maxamuuds to dominate the other two.
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It took a lot of hard work, consultation and bloodshed to build PL. No individual can destroy the foundations. Deni is very practical and calculating in some ways similar to farmajo. If he could make a deal with farmajo that is mutually beneficial he would.
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Puntland is an illegitimate enclave that is totally undemocratic. Mahamud Saleban I think are less than 50% of PL (Bari, Nugaal & northern Mudug) population yet always thanks to unelected so called lawmakers the leadership is always rotated between the 3 branches of MS every 5 years

Would PL collapse if Ciise Mahamud didn't become leader in 2024?
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BigBreak wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:33 pm Puntland is an illegitimate enclave that is totally undemocratic. Mahamud Saleban I think are less than 50% of PL (Bari, Nugaal & northern Mudug) population yet always thanks to unelected so called lawmakers the leadership is always rotated between the 3 branches of MS every 5 years

Would PL collapse if Ciise Mahamud didn't become leader in 2024?
The important question is why is a person claiming to be habar jeclo so obsessed with dhabacyo-land?


I never ever seen a hj got this much cuqdad for mj, you are either a boon or a farastinian, which one are you you fatherless garac
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mahoka wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:18 pm
BigBreak wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:33 pm Puntland is an illegitimate enclave that is totally undemocratic. Mahamud Saleban I think are less than 50% of PL (Bari, Nugaal & northern Mudug) population yet always thanks to unelected so called lawmakers the leadership is always rotated between the 3 branches of MS every 5 years

Would PL collapse if Ciise Mahamud didn't become leader in 2024?
The important question is why is a person claiming to be habar jeclo so obsessed with dhabacyo-land?


I never ever seen a hj got this much cuqdad for mj, you are either a boon or a farastinian, which one are you you fatherless garac
He claims to be Eidagelle from Hargeisa lool which makes it wierd at least HJ has Harti abtiyaal so they have a rigth to stick their nose into the insanity
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Deni is a ruthless cold blooded man, the only person who can stop him is Farmaajo, if he manages to sit on the throne, God help us all. The dumb ass hutus were taken for ride by him, imagine a guy who swindles his political allies, what do you think he does to his opponents, well we saw didn't we, in Garowe when he attacked the PL speaker of parliament and killed dozen of his staff. :lol:
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NGM wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:34 am Deni is a ruthless cold blooded man, the only person who can stop him is Farmaajo, if he manages to sit on the throne, God help us all. The dumb ass hutus were taken for ride by him, imagine a guy who swindles his political allies, what do you think he does to his opponents, well we saw didn't we, in Garowe when he attacked the PL speaker of parliament and killed dozen of his staff. :lol:
Deni might change the capital from Mogadishu to Galkayo perhaps
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NGM wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:34 am Deni is a ruthless cold blooded man, the only person who can stop him is Farmaajo, if he manages to sit on the throne, God help us all. The dumb ass hutus were taken for ride by him, imagine a guy who swindles his political allies, what do you think he does to his opponents, well we saw didn't we, in Garowe when he attacked the PL speaker of parliament and killed dozen of his staff. :lol:
NGM you seem to be too deluded to think straight, we Hawiye and HG know full well which daroods are anti Hawiye and which are pro-Hawiyes, Mx, Dhullo and warsangali are the most anti Hawiye of the jebertis and, mjs and Ogs are pro, in short MJs are Practical clan that know they reality on the ground to mess with Hawiye unlike Mx whole constantly mess with Hawiyes from Siade bare to Farmaajo, mx are extreme anti Hawiye.

Read below the conspiracy Mxs formed with other darood langaab yaryars dhullo and warsangeli to exterminate Hawiyes, it was MJs who refused siding with Hawiyes saying we live with Hawiye meaning they live with HGs and feared their blow back, the mjs even said to dhullo and warsangeli that they dont even live with Hawiyes to face the consequences of the blowback it will cause and should mind their business;

https://i.ibb.co/jTxdXzS/yKLc9TsQ.jpg

Mx are a danger to Hawiye especially to HGs, while MJs are practical that have common sense to work together..
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MrSinister wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:42 pm
Phinks wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:33 am Nomand and Gubbet

Deni is not this monster you have envisioned in your minds, maybe your bias is influencing your thoughts. Deni is a businessman, when he made that speech detailing the issues he had with Farmaajo, I did not see a ruthless dictator, but a man who was genuinely confused and blindsided by all this, he is of the office desk type, there's not a single hard bone in his body.

Secondly, a dictatorship cannot thrive in Puntland. The system is founded on a delicate balance between Cumar Maxamuud, Cisse Maxamuud and Cismaan Maxamuud. Isn't it funny how all these years, whether under Yusuf, Faroole, or Gaas, people kept talking about Puntland being ruled by some dictatorship? People will always have something to say. With every Puntland elections conclusion every MJ FMS leader stepped down gracefully without a fight, is it perfect? No. But it is simply impossible for one of the Maxamuuds to dominate the other two.
:up:

It took a lot of hard work, consultation and bloodshed to build PL. No individual can destroy the foundations. Deni is very practical and calculating in some ways similar to farmajo. If he could make a deal with farmajo that is mutually beneficial he would.
I cannot even take them seriously, they take pleasure in seeing PL in troubled waters. Same posters worried about dictatorship are the same ones posting any bad news they can get their hands on Puntland, not falling for these fake tears.
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Re: Sharmaake crying about deni

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Kees70 wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:43 am
NGM wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:34 am Deni is a ruthless cold blooded man, the only person who can stop him is Farmaajo, if he manages to sit on the throne, God help us all. The dumb ass hutus were taken for ride by him, imagine a guy who swindles his political allies, what do you think he does to his opponents, well we saw didn't we, in Garowe when he attacked the PL speaker of parliament and killed dozen of his staff. :lol:
NGM you seem to be too deluded to think straight, we Hawiye and HG know full well which daroods are anti Hawiye and which are pro-Hawiyes, Mx, Dhullo and warsangali are the most anti Hawiye of the jebertis and, mjs and Ogs are pro, in short MJs are Practical clan that know they reality on the ground to mess with Hawiye unlike Mx whole constantly mess with Hawiyes from Siade bare to Farmaajo, mx are extreme anti Hawiye.

Read below the conspiracy Mxs formed with other darood langaab yaryars dhullo and warsangeli to exterminate Hawiyes, it was MJs who refused siding with Hawiyes saying we live with Hawiye meaning they live with HGs and feared their blow back, the mjs even said to dhullo and warsangeli that they dont even live with Hawiyes to face the consequences of the blowback it will cause and should mind their business;

https://i.ibb.co/jTxdXzS/yKLc9TsQ.jpg

Mx are a danger to Hawiye especially to HGs, while MJs are practical that have common sense to work together..
Sxb, are you mentally ill? Do MX not border HG? In fact, they are much closer in proxmity to your people in Mudug than MJ. Intee sheekadaan ka keentey?

Kulaha fear, MJ and Hawiye had a very close relationship after Independance, we were making a killing in Xamar and lived there peacefully, just as MJ welcomed HG into Gaalkacyo, it was out of Somalinimo and walaalnimo, get your facts straight.

From your source:

'He refused because the Majeerteen are friends with the Hawiye. We do business with them. The Warsengali and Dhulbanhante don't have anything to do with Hawiye. My father had many meetings with the elders of Hawiye. My father wasn't going to betray them'

So being loyal and not backstabbing a friend is now being fearful? Word of advice, read the source and go over it several times before you post your bullshit. :lol:
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Phinks wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:00 am
Kees70 wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:43 am
NGM wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:34 am Deni is a ruthless cold blooded man, the only person who can stop him is Farmaajo, if he manages to sit on the throne, God help us all. The dumb ass hutus were taken for ride by him, imagine a guy who swindles his political allies, what do you think he does to his opponents, well we saw didn't we, in Garowe when he attacked the PL speaker of parliament and killed dozen of his staff. :lol:
NGM you seem to be too deluded to think straight, we Hawiye and HG know full well which daroods are anti Hawiye and which are pro-Hawiyes, Mx, Dhullo and warsangali are the most anti Hawiye of the jebertis and, mjs and Ogs are pro, in short MJs are Practical clan that know they reality on the ground to mess with Hawiye unlike Mx whole constantly mess with Hawiyes from Siade bare to Farmaajo, mx are extreme anti Hawiye.

Read below the conspiracy Mxs formed with other darood langaab yaryars dhullo and warsangeli to exterminate Hawiyes, it was MJs who refused siding with Hawiyes saying we live with Hawiye meaning they live with HGs and feared their blow back, the mjs even said to dhullo and warsangeli that they dont even live with Hawiyes to face the consequences of the blowback it will cause and should mind their business;

https://i.ibb.co/jTxdXzS/yKLc9TsQ.jpg

Mx are a danger to Hawiye especially to HGs, while MJs are practical that have common sense to work together..
Sxb, are you mentally ill? Do MX not border HG? In fact, they are much closer in proxmity to your people in Mudug than MJ. Intee sheekadaan ka keentey?

Kulaha fear, MJ and Hawiye had a very close relationship after Independance, we were making a killing in Xamar and lived there peacefully, just as MJ welcomed HG into Gaalkacyo, it was out of Somalinimo and walaalnimo, get your facts straight.

From your source:

'He refused because the Majeerteen are friends with the Hawiye. We do business with them. The Warsengali and Dhulbanhante don't have anything to do with Hawiye. My father had many meetings with the elders of Hawiye. My father wasn't going to betray them'

So being loyal and not backstabbing a friend is now being fearful? Word of advice, read the source and go over it several times before you post your bullshit. :lol:
Haye sheegato Mx, Mr i am MJ :lol:
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