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Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:34 pm
by Nomand
Kees70 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:30 pm
Nomand wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:24 pm President Farmaajo gave a great speech. SNTV has boycotted from showing cause he goes hard on kenya.
Dowlad facebook ku nool :lol:
That describes rooble. If rooble had any power he would have stopped the icj and he would have accepted the AU proposal of extending their stay in somalia which was rejected by farmaajo.

Rooble is isgu sawir and a Facebook prime minister. Since the letter farmaajo wrote diminishing rooble's power have you heard rooble firing or hiring anyone?

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:37 pm
by Kees70
Nomand wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:34 pm
Kees70 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:30 pm
Nomand wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:24 pm President Farmaajo gave a great speech. SNTV has boycotted from showing cause he goes hard on kenya.
Dowlad facebook ku nool :lol:
That describes rooble. If rooble had any power he would have stopped the icj and he would have accepted the AU proposal of extending their stay in somalia which was rejected by farmaajo.

Rooble is isgu sawir and a Facebook prime minister. Since the letter farmaajo wrote diminishing rooble's power have you heard rooble firing or hiring anyone?
:lol:
''RoObLe HaS nO PoWeR'' kkkk, meanwhile his abo farmaajo is under sanction from using any Government ministry by the order of PM Rooble

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:14 pm
by SultanOrder
Jimbie wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:49 am
paperino wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:21 am A detailed map of the new boundary:
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According to Kenya's The Star, "The International Court of Justice on Tuesday awarded Somalia control of most of a potentially oil- and a gas-rich chunk of the Indian Ocean", meaning Kenya's minor stake is insignificant.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/africa/ ... -by-kenya/
This is not something to glout with when you understand the court threw out the MoU signed by Abdirahman Abdi Shakur. In conclusion we lost land not because of MoU signed by past administrations but the incompetency of Farmajo government
I don't think you speak English very well. :|

Like Bashi said, the entire reason Kenya had reason to claim there was a "dispute" to begin with is due to the MOU.

1. The Court did not "throw out" the MOU.
2. It recognized it as a valid document which "made" Somalia "agree" that there was a "dispute."
3. The Court then said because "both" sides "recognize" there was a "dispute," the Court then had "jurisdiction" to judge in the "dispute."

The Court then ruled in Somalia's favor with an adjusted reward.

Without the MOU, there would never be a legal dispute to begin with as Kenya had already confirmed in multiple treaties and laws that it limited its claims following the land border.

You just can't help being fake news. :|

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:15 pm
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
Madaxweyne hassan sheikh mohamud's legacy. Well done to Farmaajo for continuing the case. :som:

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:19 pm
by SultanOrder
I am moderating all fake news fyi.

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:22 pm
by original dervish
I would advise everyone to read the statement of of Judge Yusef.

The court departed from all previous methodology and agreed that the cost was CONCAVE= C

This allowed the mfs to adjust the provisional equidistant line when it was totally unwarranted. Even a schoolboy could see the adjacent coasts of Somalia and Kenya were broadly aligned in the same direction.....NE.

Judge Yusef goes on to say the court has basically used a contrived median line in order to produce a line that comes as close as possible to a bisector line.........when nothing justifies the use of a bisector line.

The map the op has posted doesn't reflect how much sea Somalia has lost......we have lost much more.

Furthermore, in the future judge Yusef states that this unsatisfactory judgement has created problems in the future delimitation of the 350nm outer continental shelf.

Having said that.........Somalia at present is a basket case without any real sovereignty. So in that respect this was a good decision for Somalia.

One last point is the direction of the sea border is SE.....so in theory the further we can extend our exclusive economic zone....200nm- 350nm....the more we reduce Kenya's EEZ.

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:25 pm
by original dervish
https://www.icj-cij.org/en

Scroll down to the Somalia Kenya decision

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:28 pm
by paperino
Nomand wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:24 pm President Farmaajo gave a great speech. SNTV has boycotted from showing cause he goes hard on kenya.
Not so:



I'm surprised Farmaajo mentioned HSM early in his speech, according him some credit; that's what you call sportsmanlike.

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:47 pm
by gobdoon
I salute all concerned how the issue united us madax iyo shicib ba and how all the leaders isku xuseen oo kuligood u qireen in ayan cidina gaar u sheegan guusha
Wa hab dhaqan cusub long it may continue, let us show unity and show something our enemies who think We are a weak link

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:14 pm
by MrSinister
I think we can all agree this was an important win for Somalia. I’ll give farmajo credit on this as I’m sure he was pressured to settle this outside the ICJ. HSM also deserves a lot credit for initiating the case.

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:15 pm
by Nomand
paperino wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:28 pm
Nomand wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:24 pm President Farmaajo gave a great speech. SNTV has boycotted from showing cause he goes hard on kenya.
Not so:



I'm surprised Farmaajo mentioned HSM early in his speech, according him some credit; that's what you call sportsmanlike.
11:25 to 11:50 is very interesting

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:03 pm
by Turbulence
Nomand wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:24 pm President Farmaajo gave a great speech. SNTV has boycotted from showing cause he goes hard on kenya.
They posted the speech since then. A lot of Somalis are shitting their pants today though. They have too much money in Kenya and will risk losing it if Kenya does what it has always done. Confiscate/repossess Somali properties in Kenya.


Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:08 pm
by sahal80
Kees70 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:30 pm
Nomand wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:24 pm President Farmaajo gave a great speech. SNTV has boycotted from showing cause he goes hard on kenya.
Dowlad facebook ku nool :lol:
:dead: :deadrose:


"I thank Allah for ... for the fruit of the long struggle made by the Somalis in preventing Kenya's desire to claim ownership of part of Somalia's sea," Somalia's President Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed said in a broadcast on his office's Facebook page"

Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:41 pm
by sahal80
under Hassan Sheekh i used to believe what waare Jees says regarding the Somali claim based on the map in the Kenyan link but apparently he is wrong(50/50) unless it was changed under this govt. according the court Somali claim is the equidistance line

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standa ... me-dispute



Re: BREAKING NEWS: SOMALIA WINS ON ALL ARGUMENTS, GETS 90% OF DISPUTED SEA!!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:53 pm
by Kees70
sahal80 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:08 pm
Kees70 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:30 pm
Nomand wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:24 pm President Farmaajo gave a great speech. SNTV has boycotted from showing cause he goes hard on kenya.
Dowlad facebook ku nool :lol:
:dead: :deadrose:


"I thank Allah for ... for the fruit of the long struggle made by the Somalis in preventing Kenya's desire to claim ownership of part of Somalia's sea," Somalia's President Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed said in a broadcast on his office's Facebook page"
:pac: