Oh, that's what you meant, obviously Kenadiid was Cismaan Maxamuud who contested the throne of Majeerteeniya, the base foundation of Hobyo Sultunate was Cumar Maxamuud backed by some Cisse Maxamuud (who also backed the Dervish).
Majeerteniya = Cismaan Maxamuud
Hobyo = Cumar Maxamuud and Cisse Maxamuud
Dervish = Dhulbahante and Cisse Maxamuud
While the Sayyid was Ogaden, there is no way one can argue Ogaden made the majority base of Dervish Sultunate, hope that clears it up.
Majeerten take their anger out on poor dhulo. Fighting in eastern sool/nugaal
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Re: Majeerten take their anger out on poor dhulo. Fighting in eastern sool/nugaal
Agreed sxb, this is beneath me.STARKAST wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:22 amDon't fall for the trap, don't reply to threads created by the op and his other nick.Phinks wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:48 am Nomand,
Forget Reero, this is a fight between families, if Puntland was using state resources to attack them, why are they winning? C'mon man, think for a second, as of now Puntland is sending people to mediate the conflict.
OD is also a sheegato or a slave of Isaaq/SL. Ignore him. A man ruled shisheye (SL) is the same as dirt.
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Re: Majeerten take their anger out on poor dhulo. Fighting in eastern sool/nugaal
I am saying. Boqor cismaan was cismaan MaxamuudPhinks wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:31 am Oh, that's what you meant, obviously Kenadiid was Cismaan Maxamuud who contested the throne of Majeerteeniya, the base foundation of Hobyo Sultunate was Cumar Maxamuud backed by some Cisse Maxamuud (who also backed the Dervish).
Majeerteniya = Cismaan Maxamuud
Hobyo = Cumar Maxamuud and Cisse Maxamuud
Dervish = Dhulbahante and Cisse Maxamuud
While the Sayyid was Ogaden, there is no way one can argue Ogaden made the majority base of Dervish Sultunate, hope that clears it up.
So was Cali Yusuf Keenadid. And so was his son who succeeded him Yusuf Cali keenadid u said there was an cumar maxamuud sultanate if u say there was an cumar maxamuud sultanate as claimed. Shouldn’t there be atleast an cumar maxamuud sultan to begin with hadaad tidhaahdid askarta saldanada ahayn is believable Laakin hanugu dulsamayn Dee
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Re: Majeerten take their anger out on poor dhulo. Fighting in eastern sool/nugaal
By the way the dervish movement was far from a qabil
Movement it’s like saying Shabaab is dominated by one qabil alone the dervishes. One time of the movement theee was majoretten some dhulbahante subclans Some jareeerrs then the next year there were some habrjeclo subclans then the next year some habaryoonis subclans and some warsangali it was swifting based on geopolitical clan interest it didn’t stood still really for instance in the beginning of the dervish movement in fardhidin the clans that were fighting were habrjeclo mj Ciise maxamuud and jareer this was 1903 1902
After. 1904 some Ali Geri subclans joined
Read the book 17trips through Somaliland by Col swayne
Movement it’s like saying Shabaab is dominated by one qabil alone the dervishes. One time of the movement theee was majoretten some dhulbahante subclans Some jareeerrs then the next year there were some habrjeclo subclans then the next year some habaryoonis subclans and some warsangali it was swifting based on geopolitical clan interest it didn’t stood still really for instance in the beginning of the dervish movement in fardhidin the clans that were fighting were habrjeclo mj Ciise maxamuud and jareer this was 1903 1902
After. 1904 some Ali Geri subclans joined
Read the book 17trips through Somaliland by Col swayne
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Re: Majeerten take their anger out on poor dhulo. Fighting in eastern sool/nugaal
By the way it’s absurd to claim all dhulbahante were with sayid siggeyste. Ali dhuuux their prominent poet hated him
The bahararsame garaad was beheaded by siigeyste ugaadhyaahajn and jamac siyaad never supported siigeyste
Reer Hagar were known as Fallaago enemy of the dervishesducaale fagaase and his like
Only a few Cali Geri stood with him
The bahararsame garaad was beheaded by siigeyste ugaadhyaahajn and jamac siyaad never supported siigeyste
Reer Hagar were known as Fallaago enemy of the dervishesducaale fagaase and his like
Only a few Cali Geri stood with him
Re: Majeerten take their anger out on poor dhulo. Fighting in eastern sool/nugaal
I agree, many Isaaq also fought with the Sayyid, it was very complicated at the time, Warsangeli Sultunate was also backed by some MJ sub-clans, Habar Gidir weren't forced into Hobyo like some believe, they willingly joined it, but the fighting picked up after Kenadiid's son got to the throne, at one point even Garxaajis were part of Hobyo Sultunate and were helping defend it from Majeerteniya, Southern Darood also joined Geladi Sultunate, it was a constantly shifting movement of clan alliances, I can agree it doesn't do it justice to simplify it like that, unfortunately the Somali mind is that, simple.
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Re: Majeerten take their anger out on poor dhulo. Fighting in eastern sool/nugaal
All dhabayaco settlements within the boundaries of Somaliland should be destroyed. You can handle this alone but its more effective if you guys invite us into the party. We are bored and need to karbaash those punanis this Ramadan.original dervish wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:26 am Look at this filthy liar.....when has mj ever crushed Dhulbahante.
When the the former regime was slaughtering mj left right their reer badiye sought refuge with Ahmed Garaad.
When the USC slaughtered mj like goats in Gaalkayo....throwing scores into the Wells again it was Dhulbahante who came to their aid.
These Cisse Mahmoud were trying trying to expand into Dhulbahante land. They killed around 7 Hassan Ugas nomads and refused mag. Enough was enough and Dhulbahante organised a milita killing around 20 mj and injuring scores more. Furthermore, the little tuulo that Cisse Mahmoud built has been raised to the ground.
This was a flagrant aggression of mj against Dhulbahante that has been answered in the only way Somalis understand.
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