Amb Safiina apologizing for previous comments. Garbahaarey election will happen

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Gedo's 16 seats are all Marehan seats I'm assuming. Am I right?

From Voltage

No. Marehan has 14 MP seats and 3 Senate seats. Since Abdullahi Yusuf govt, Marehan divided their seats with 4 MP seats and 1 Senate seat for Marehan in central Somalia and 10 MP seats and 2 Senate seats for Marehan in Gedo (including the Senate seats when they started).

So 10 of the seats in Garbahaareey are Marehan. 6 belong to other clans like Gasaargude, Garre, etc.

Also elections happening in Garbahaareey are part of September Agreement, Baidoa Technical Points, etc.

There is really no argument about how it is supposed to happen. Ahmed Madoobe has chosen not to honor the agreement yet which is what the threat of sanctions is about for people holding up the process.

For people making comparisons to Beled-Weyne, there is no argument since Beled-Weyne was never in any of the agreements but Garbahaareey was specifically addressed.

Also reer Hiiraan signed on to Hirshabelle and were even perfectly fine recognizing the validity of the State serving as President. Hirshabelle Presidents have been based in Beled-Weyne as well

Reer Gedo have NEVER signed on to or recognized the existence of such a thing called Jubbaland as it exists or the authority of Ahmed Madoobe. No such thing called Jubbaland President named Ahmed Madoobe has ever even been able to visit Garbahaareey.

Beled-Weyne was a "political" problem that was solved quickly.

Garbahaareey is a "legitimacy" problem that cannot be solved which is why it was "structurally" addressed during all the agreements.

Thank you for the information. In all honesty Jubbaland's internal politics is a shit-storm. Gedo is politically, socially and militarily autonomous from the rest of "Jubbaland." Middle Jubba and some areas in Lower Jubba are under the authority of Al Shabab. Kismayo district and its surroundings are currently under the Kenyan-backed Raskamboni Brigade control under Ahmed Madoobe's leadership.

From V

Correct which is why everybody, ESPECIALLY the international partners, now recognize through the election shitshow that Ahmed Madoobe and whatever the original KDF put together was they called "Jubbaland" needs to go and a real, legitimate Jubbaland (that especially has recognition from rer Gedo) needs to be built to solve the biggest crisis in Somalia's federalism.

Whatever else that was said by someone about any continuance of the process without G16 is really just someone talking for the sake of talking. I am glad I no longer have to even come across such nonsense.

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From Voltage

No. Marehan has 14 MP seats and 3 Senate seats. Since Abdullahi Yusuf govt, Marehan divided their seats with 4 MP seats and 1 Senate seat for Marehan in central Somalia and 10 MP seats and 2 Senate seats for Marehan in Gedo (including the Senate seats when they started).

So 10 of the seats in Garbahaareey are Marehan. 6 belong to other clans like Gasaargude, Garre, etc.

Also elections happening in Garbahaareey are part of September Agreement, Baidoa Technical Points, etc.

There is really no argument about how it is supposed to happen. Ahmed Madoobe has chosen not to honor the agreement yet which is what the threat of sanctions is about for people holding up the process.

For people making comparisons to Beled-Weyne, there is no argument since Beled-Weyne was never in any of the agreements but Garbahaareey was specifically addressed.

Also reer Hiiraan signed on to Hirshabelle and were even perfectly fine recognizing the validity of the State serving as President. Hirshabelle Presidents have been based in Beled-Weyne as well

Reer Gedo have NEVER signed on to or recognized the existence of such a thing called Jubbaland as it exists or the authority of Ahmed Madoobe. No such thing called Jubbaland President named Ahmed Madoobe has ever even been able to visit Garbahaareey.

Beled-Weyne was a "political" problem that was solved quickly.

Garbahaareey is a "legitimacy" problem that cannot be solved which is why it was "structurally" addressed during all the agreements.

Thank you for the information. In all honesty Jubbaland's internal politics is a shit-storm. Gedo is politically, socially and militarily autonomous from the rest of "Jubbaland." Middle Jubba and some areas in Lower Jubba are under the authority of Al Shabab. Kismayo district and its surroundings are currently under the Kenyan-backed Raskamboni Brigade control under Ahmed Madoobe's leadership.

From V

Correct which is why everybody, ESPECIALLY the international partners, now recognize through the election shitshow that Ahmed Madoobe and whatever the original KDF put together was they called "Jubbaland" needs to go and a real, legitimate Jubbaland (that especially has recognition from rer Gedo) needs to be built to solve the biggest crisis in Somalia's federalism.

Whatever else that was said by someone about any continuance of the process without G16 is really just someone talking for the sake of talking. I am glad I no longer have to even come across such nonsense.

Will we see the process to create an all-inclusive, legitimate Jubbaland after the elections? Who will spearhead this process? Who will mediate between the different groups?

I think they only way to start any process to create a legitimate Jubbaland will be a withdrawal of Kenyan forces from Kismayo followed by an agreement to cease all hostilities between Kismayo and Gedo.