The next president must avoid the mistakes of Farmaajo

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Re: The next president must avoid the mistakes of Farmaajo

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Now that it is over, here is where I can honestly say Farmaajo’s blunders were;

1) Relationship building. He could have easily used siyaasad, made relationships with at least some of the mucaarad. Instead he completely ignored them, brushed them to the side.

2) Aden Madoobe is a grizzled, old, RRA D’M heavyweight politician in his 50s. To counter him you bring a young D&M kid from Minnesota? What the heck was that?!

3) He didn’t consult people in major decisions like Prime Minister, public relations, etc. he kind of created the notion ‘It’s my way or the highway’ thus the dictator accusations.

Good things Farmaajo did?

-Whoever comes in as President will inherit way more power. With Farmaaajo Somalis learned that military, intelligence institutions report to the president, and are loyal to him.

-Personally even his biggest enemies acknowledged he isn’t someone consumed with stashing money, and stealing it. In Somalia that is a high compliment.

-Paying soldiers on time, and expanding the army. Haramcad, Gorgor, etc will be at the disposal of the new president.

-Introduced the closest thing to party politics with N&N with multiple Qabil members.
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Re: The next president must avoid the mistakes of Farmaajo

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VOLTAGE, VOLTAGE VOLTAGE!!

Nobody wants to here from the monkeys, everybody wants to hear the organ grinder eat humble pie. That fellow made so many outlandish claims it was like he head seen the elections results from some secret ball that only he could see. Because if you couldn't see, it was probably because you not as smart or able to write multiple paragraphs to answer simple replies....
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He wanted to replicate siyad aun. Atleast with siyad aun the country was by all accounts kicking butt when it comes to Economy. With him it was chaos. I think we need to bar two tribes from leadership and they are the two darood clans that start with m. Let's give dhulbahante a chance to rep darood
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Murax wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:22 am Now that it is over, here is where I can honestly say Farmaajo’s blunders were;

1) Relationship building. He could have easily used siyaasad, made relationships with at least some of the mucaarad. Instead he completely ignored them, brushed them to the side.

2) Aden Madoobe is a grizzled, old, RRA D’M heavyweight politician in his 50s. To counter him you bring a young D&M kid from Minnesota? What the heck was that?!

3) He didn’t consult people in major decisions like Prime Minister, public relations, etc. he kind of created the notion ‘It’s my way or the highway’ thus the dictator accusations.

Good things Farmaajo did?

-Whoever comes in as President will inherit way more power. With Farmaaajo Somalis learned that military, intelligence institutions report to the president, and are loyal to him.

-Personally even his biggest enemies acknowledged he isn’t someone consumed with stashing money, and stealing it. In Somalia that is a high compliment.

-Paying soldiers on time, and expanding the army. Haramcad, Gorgor, etc will be at the disposal of the new president.

-Introduced the closest thing to party politics with N&N with multiple Qabil members.
I think this is a good and fair analysis
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Re: The next president must avoid the mistakes of Farmaajo

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Murax wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:22 am Now that it is over, here is where I can honestly say Farmaajo’s blunders were;

1) Relationship building. He could have easily used siyaasad, made relationships with at least some of the mucaarad. Instead he completely ignored them, brushed them to the side.

2) Aden Madoobe is a grizzled, old, RRA D’M heavyweight politician in his 50s. To counter him you bring a young D&M kid from Minnesota? What the heck was that?!

3) He didn’t consult people in major decisions like Prime Minister, public relations, etc. he kind of created the notion ‘It’s my way or the highway’ thus the dictator accusations.

Good things Farmaajo did?

-Whoever comes in as President will inherit way more power. With Farmaaajo Somalis learned that military, intelligence institutions report to the president, and are loyal to him.

-Personally even his biggest enemies acknowledged he isn’t someone consumed with stashing money, and stealing it. In Somalia that is a high compliment.

-Paying soldiers on time, and expanding the army. Haramcad, Gorgor, etc will be at the disposal of the new president.

-Introduced the closest thing to party politics with N&N with multiple Qabil members.
Consult people? He was the first president that gave his prime minister (Khayre) the most flexbility and let him get on with his work for whole 3 years!

All your analysis is rubbish.

This disucssion should be done after the presidential election and he loses it. Stupid thread.
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Lol^. I think he was too cocky that got him into trouble. Remember he had HAG wrapped under his finger forget these idiot mucaarad camps from ogadeen and mj but there were widespread "ar farmaajo iigeeya sentiments". Power got to him.
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Another Farmaajo thread from Sahal.
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FarhanYare wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:12 pm Lol^. I think he was too cocky that got him into trouble. Remember he had HAG wrapped under his finger forget these idiot mucaarad camps from ogadeen and mj but there were widespread "ar farmaajo iigeeya sentiments". Power got to him.
hlaf right

farmajo had 3 FMS outta the 5 FMS. n he had half of jubaland. that was all he needed. tha nigga was supposed to continue ignoring stealth secessionist pland

wouldn't characterize that mistake as getting cocky though. he tried to please the spoilers in 2020. let them delay elections he coulda easily won. if he was cocky, it was because he was overconfident in his ability to please tha stealth secessionists

this was also the lesson HSM failed to learn. HSM tried to win reelection by givng PM to CCC. u know how that turned out :whew: biggest farmajo mistake. letting governor deni delay federal elections when he coulda treat them the same way the ex italian colony treats sland by making fake somaliland MPs get elected in Hamar. Puntland MPs have to get elected in Hamar in 2026 if they pull the same antics
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Re: The next president must avoid the mistakes of Farmaajo

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sahal80 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:11 am
support the creation of the regional Dervish Forces that r independent from the federal government, a program that Farmaajo was against it in Hirshabelle and Galmudug to be like Puntland.

4-Work with all neighboring countries so that the opposition does not benefit from any clash with them but do not fall into national treason. Farmaajo had conflict with Kenya and another unnecessary conflict with Djibouti who is a troop contributing country for siding with Eritrea.
Creating a regional force that is independent of the government does not make any sense and it will be a source of conflict in the future. The point of state building that you dont seem to understand is to make all armed forces to come under a command.

President Farmaajo have/had no issues with neighbouring countries but its different when they seem hellbent on robbing Somalias resources. Plus what Kenya did was arming a proxy Jubbaland army to fight against Somalia. Jubbaland army were decimated and defeated in the battle of Beledhawo



Djibouti or the dictator guelle who have his own designs to influence Somalia sided with Kenya so they are not innocent. Somalia have enough problems to focus on and starting conflict with neighbours is not one of them so if neighbours behave like neighbours there wont be issues.
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