Deni politically defeated

[paperino]

wa caadi we already said good bye to somalia

However, WG is still a maamul goboleed of Somalia, as the US ambassador has stated a number of times.

[theyuusuf143]

The dhabayacos knows thier weakness so they make themselves seem like very important for somalia Even though they don't contribute any thing to somalia.

They pay no tax
They don't allocate any man power for the national defence
They don't invest one penny in xamar.

It's funny how qadaadweyns are programmed to believe that somaliland is somali diid. While these dhabayacos are milking the cow without feeding it. At least we are investing xamar. What do they do for somalia ?

The vast majority of the hawiye believe in the narrative of the darood when it comes to Somaliland with the exception of a few xawaadle and a few habragedir the rest fall behind what ever darood , that isaaq and somaliland are somali diid that isaaq is there to divide the somali people
its very hard to defeat this mindset because the hawiyes mostly are very attached to the marada bluega not sure why
it was isaaaq that came twice to their rescue once during the ethiopian invasion we send our best fighters our best jihadist to exterminate the habesha invasion of mogadishu and it worked amiir ahmed godane and and sheikh afghani were a dream team with the blessing of the late sheikh warsame of burco spiritual leader who send his blessings and support from burco it was the then somaliland government that took in all the refugges from mogadishu in hargeisa and treated them as equal people the hawiyes were allowed to buy lands in somaliland

even though the constutions says one cant sell land to foreigners ajanabis any way thats not all when the flight full of refugees were refused to land any where in somalia ,,president rayaale gave premission to land in hargeisa igaal international airport second time was back 2011 when ther was a big famine the people of somaliland collected over a million dollars even school childeren donated their money to mogadishu and we send sheikh raage and abwaan hadraawi to hand over the support to the late leader of bunker sheikh dalxiiis

yet they consider the jabuutians their brothers and us their enemies when the jabuutians allowed america use their country as a base to attack the late general aideed and use drones in somalia not sure

just because the darood share and cries for marada bluega thats why the hawiyes feel closer that the darood is closer to them then the isaaq

wa caadi we already said good bye to somalia

I wonder why Amiir godane has no taalo in xamar same like the mad mullah. Because they were both terrorists. No hutu can answer if we ask why sayidka is national hero and godane or ceyraw is not ??? They are brainwashed by the D block. They must blow up that samam it's not even permited under the Islamic law.

[MrSinister]

Goood points gubbet


sinister why dont u guys declare just independence what is there in mogadishu for you or do you think puntland cant survive with out mogadishu

If it was up to me, PL would declare independence a long time ago. There is no serious government in hamar and there never will be as long it’s the capital. Abdullahi Yusuf (aun) gave the Hutus a government and brought peace back to the capital and now they are shitting on it.

PL can survive on its own, but the people of puntland still have connections to Somalia. I think a confederation type of government is more of a realistic path for PL than complete independence.

I also think the so called international community parasites are a major obstacle and they don’t want any functioning government in Somalia (including Somaliland) to be recognized. A weak government stuck in Mogadishu that is recognized internationally is a perfect for them as it allows them to do shady deals, occupy the country with foreign troops and control South Somalia resources.

[MrSinister]

Somaliland is in the same boat as Puntland. The only difference is reer PL don’t beg and strip naked for gaalo for international recognition.

Here’s Faisal warabe crying about HSMs visit to Washington

[Khalid Ali]

Mr sinister puntland interest lies with in mogadishu it cannot survie with out mogadishu the people in puntland believe they cannot survive with out xamar if we are honest

where as we are confident in our own strength

hassan sh cant change anything in the sl deal with the usa
the usa knows where berbera is and who they have to deal with it if they want a base there

[Khalid Ali]

wa caadi we already said good bye to somalia

However, WG is still a maamul goboleed of Somalia, as the US ambassador has stated a number of times.

if its a mamuul goboleed of somalai how come non of your leades have never visited over 35 years
have u ever heard seen a signautre of somaliland on a paper of the so called tfg bunker govt

have we ever said we are part of somalia
we are part of somalia if we say we are
and we are not and u know it ur darood piglets xukun is not in somaliland


no american ambassador or canadian or white ambassador can change that
if hassan sheikh visiited somaliland he will end up in prison
and u know it

[MrSinister]

Mr sinister puntland interest lies with in mogadishu it cannot survie with out mogadishu the people in puntland believe they cannot survive with out xamar if we are honest

where as we are confident in our own strength

hassan sh cant change anything in the sl deal with the usa
the usa knows where berbera is and who they have to deal with it if they want a base there

PL generates its own revenue, has it’s own army, ports, central bank, has its own government that is stable and functioning. The only interest we have with Mogadishu is getting international aid.

If SL is independent, why does the US need to discuss berbera with Hassan Shieck?

[mahoka]

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Goood points gubbet


sinister why dont u guys declare just independence what is there in mogadishu for you or do you think puntland cant survive with out mogadishu
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I also think the so called international community parasites are a major obstacle and they don’t want any functioning government in Somalia (including Somaliland) to be recognized. A weak government stuck in Mogadishu that is recognized internationally is a perfect for them as it allows them to do shady deals, occupy the country with foreign troops and control South Somalia resources.
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This is true and I would say wealthy businessmen, somali politicians etc also don’t want a strong gov in Somalia and the same entities (SL politicians, wealthy businessmen, Int com) also don’t want SL recognised.

You got a whole bunch of people in cahoots to keep the place a failed state going around in circles

If puntland declares independence - your politicians, business community tribal elders will do everything in their power to not get recognised like we see in SL.

[Khalid Ali]

Sinisiter I thought u was smarter then that
What power does hassan culusow have what real physicial power does he have this reminds me of failmaajo who said he owns the Berbera port and the dp world manager said we are signing the papers here in berbera so who ever owns berbera. Must come here. Do you really think if hassan sheikh says no to the USA to come to berbera it can have any impact but if somaliland said no to the USA u can’t come to berbera then USA can’t come to berbera even if they have the approval of the bunker president of amisom . The same way somaliland told china to fuck off we don’t need or want ur money our relationship with taiwan is on principle u know having a millatary base some where u need the government that is actually in control of that part of the world
To be on ur side it’s not like being a paper govt. only u can’t buy shit with that

[paperino]

if its a mamuul goboleed of somalai how come non of your leades have never visited over 35 years
have u ever heard seen a signautre of somaliland on a paper of the so called tfg bunker govt

have we ever said we are part of somalia
we are part of somalia if we say we are
and we are not and u know it ur darood piglets xukun is not in somaliland


no american ambassador or canadian or white ambassador can change that
if hassan sheikh visiited somaliland he will end up in prison
and u know it

'Cause maamulka WG is crazy enough to physically hurt or even murder such leaders if they visit. After all, this is a region where maamulka & its apparatus would beat and seriously hurt someone over a blue-colored cloth, cake, coffee, etc. The opposite is true, where people or leaders of WG wouldn't be hurt by displaying their regional flag, visiting Xamar or rest of the country.

[Phinks]

Goood points gubbet


sinister why dont u guys declare just independence what is there in mogadishu for you or do you think puntland cant survive with out mogadishu

If it was up to me, PL would declare independence a long time ago. There is no serious government in hamar and there never will be as long it’s the capital. Abdullahi Yusuf (aun) gave the Hutus a government and brought peace back to the capital and now they are shitting on it.

PL can survive on its own, but the people of puntland still have connections to Somalia. I think a confederation type of government is more of a realistic path for PL than complete independence.

I also think the so called international community parasites are a major obstacle and they don’t want any functioning government in Somalia (including Somaliland) to be recognized. A weak government stuck in Mogadishu that is recognized internationally is a perfect for them as it allows them to do shady deals, occupy the country with foreign troops and control South Somalia resources.

This is the problem we have, the International community supports HAGs evil doing, in fact, I'd wager they take a cut of the money intended for Somalia and launder the rest.

Puntland must declare independence and wage war on Dhulbahante, notice how they always side with Ogaden, or Marexaan or even Idoors over us. Darood is evil, Isaaq is evil, Hawiye is evil, the Somali is an evil malicious character that will burn in hell forever, Majeerteen must leave these demons to their demise.

[BigBreak]

Goood points gubbet


sinister why dont u guys declare just independence what is there in mogadishu for you or do you think puntland cant survive with out mogadishu

If it was up to me, PL would declare independence a long time ago. There is no serious government in hamar and there never will be as long it’s the capital. Abdullahi Yusuf (aun) gave the Hutus a government and brought peace back to the capital and now they are shitting on it.

PL can survive on its own, but the people of puntland still have connections to Somalia. I think a confederation type of government is more of a realistic path for PL than complete independence.

I also think the so called international community parasites are a major obstacle and they don’t want any functioning government in Somalia (including Somaliland) to be recognized. A weak government stuck in Mogadishu that is recognized internationally is a perfect for them as it allows them to do shady deals, occupy the country with foreign troops and control South Somalia resources.

This is the problem we have, the International community supports HAGs evil doing, in fact, I'd wager they take a cut of the money intended for Somalia and launder the rest.

Puntland must declare independence and wage war on Dhulbahante, notice how they always side with Ogaden, or Marexaan or even Idoors over us. Darood is evil, Isaaq is evil, Hawiye is evil, the Somali is an evil malicious character that will burn in hell forever, Majeerteen must leave these demons to their demise.

Some Dhulos are scum

[Khalid Ali]

Big break what makes u say that

[gobdoon]

Oo idinki ba Habar Habar isku haysta and the fake dream of Somaliland becoming illusions, so wouldn't it be wiser not to wish ill Somalia which is where you would end up
Lama Huran wa Cawska Jiilalka war hoy isdejiya sheydanka iska naara

[MrSinister]

Goood points gubbet


sinister why dont u guys declare just independence what is there in mogadishu for you or do you think puntland cant survive with out mogadishu

If it was up to me, PL would declare independence a long time ago. There is no serious government in hamar and there never will be as long it’s the capital. Abdullahi Yusuf (aun) gave the Hutus a government and brought peace back to the capital and now they are shitting on it.

PL can survive on its own, but the people of puntland still have connections to Somalia. I think a confederation type of government is more of a realistic path for PL than complete independence.

I also think the so called international community parasites are a major obstacle and they don’t want any functioning government in Somalia (including Somaliland) to be recognized. A weak government stuck in Mogadishu that is recognized internationally is a perfect for them as it allows them to do shady deals, occupy the country with foreign troops and control South Somalia resources.

This is the problem we have, the International community supports HAGs evil doing, in fact, I'd wager they take a cut of the money intended for Somalia and launder the rest.

Puntland must declare independence and wage war on Dhulbahante, notice how they always side with Ogaden, or Marexaan or even Idoors over us. Darood is evil, Isaaq is evil, Hawiye is evil, the Somali is an evil malicious character that will burn in hell forever, Majeerteen must leave these demons to their demise.

No doubt. Muqdisho is a cash cow for them. PL needs a new generation of leaders who aren’t stuck in the past.