I propose this solution for somaliland & puntland

[noer]

unite with the least economically viable region of the ex italian colon. magertenland f**k that. if i'm reuniting with somalia, i want hirshabele, hamar, southwest, n jubaland puntland can stay stealth secessionist, until unionist magertenlanders can overthrow aran jan

[theyuusuf143]

@phinks I bet the word faqash originates from majeerten themselves. Since they were the victims of kacaanka long before us. Dhulbahante and mareexan were the real faqash and they are still faqash sympathisers. Most MJs dislike faqash and admire their SSDF mujaahidiin. . That's the fact whether you agree or not . If puntland and somaliland do not unite, we both keep wasting our meager resources for nothing. And there will never be other solution unless one of us gives up the territory they claim and remove it from their constitution.

If we do not seek for solution puntland has more to loose compare to somaliland. Atleast somaliland core areas is far from the conflict zone. Rag waa kii arin keena ama aqbal keena.

[paperino]

Since president HSM effectively destroyed the ictiraaf quest, diehard ictiraaf seekers become disoriented & hapless. Some of them started proposing impossible or unworkable ideas.

[Phinks]

@phinks I bet the word faqash originates from majeerten themselves. Since they were the victims of kacaanka long before us. Dhulbahante and mareexan were the real faqash and they are still faqash sympathisers. Most MJs dislike faqash and admire their SSDF mujaahidiin. . That's the fact whether you agree or not . If puntland and somaliland do not unite, we both keep wasting our meager resources for nothing. And there will never be other solution unless one of us gives up the territory they claim and remove it from their constitution.

If we do not seek for solution puntland has more to loose compare to somaliland. Atleast somaliland core areas is far from the conflict zone. Rag waa kii arin keena ama aqbal keena.

Exactly, so why the hate against MJ/Puntites? Because deep down you know we're not like the South, Idoor are not more civilised than MJ, I'll die on this hill. If you were in Puntland flying that flag of yours, you wouldn't be touched, can the same be said for my case? I doubt it. Face it, if MJ were chaotic and killing/raping like the rest, you'd be calling us friends and backing us, this is the truth.

I don't care what you or the South thinks, as long as MJ lands are administered by Puntland, I'll always be happy with the status-quo, question is, will you? How long can this ictiraaf dream drag on before the Idoors start revolting? You want my advice? Stop pushing for Somaliland (a British gaal colony legacy) and start pushing for a Confederation, then you'll have my support.

[mahoka]

Yusuf drank too much and got emotional over HSM comments lol.


Sober up sxb

[theyuusuf143]

@phinks I bet the word faqash originates from majeerten themselves. Since they were the victims of kacaanka long before us. Dhulbahante and mareexan were the real faqash and they are still faqash sympathisers. Most MJs dislike faqash and admire their SSDF mujaahidiin. . That's the fact whether you agree or not . If puntland and somaliland do not unite, we both keep wasting our meager resources for nothing. And there will never be other solution unless one of us gives up the territory they claim and remove it from their constitution.

If we do not seek for solution puntland has more to loose compare to somaliland. Atleast somaliland core areas is far from the conflict zone. Rag waa kii arin keena ama aqbal keena.

Exactly, so why the hate against MJ/Puntites? Because deep down you know we're not like the South, Idoor are not more civilised than MJ, I'll die on this hill. If you were in Puntland flying that flag of yours, you wouldn't be touched, can the same be said for my case? I doubt it. Face it, if MJ were chaotic and killing/raping like the rest, you'd be calling us friends and backing us, this is the truth.

I don't care what you or the South thinks, as long as MJ lands are administered by Puntland, I'll always be happy with the status-quo, question is, will you? How long can this ictiraaf dream drag on before the Idoors start revolting? You want my advice? Stop pushing for Somaliland (a British gaal colony legacy) and start pushing for a Confederation, then you'll have my support.

I I understand a confederate system between two independent states. Just like I suggested for puntland and somaliland. But I don't get why do you need confederate system in somalia while it's already federal with 5 members? Do you want all 5 States to be sovereign States .
The amisom bunker doesn't control any thing , except the begging basket and they don't even have the key for the basket. So you are not feeling any economy pressure from the so called central government. Why do you need the confederate.

This confederate thing is so bizzare to me. Its just the majeerten way of running from somalia look we both want the same thing. Independence. Stop this This too much sugar coating and suuro . Somalia is dead and you don't want to be part of it . Have courage to say I AM out.

[theyuusuf143]

Yusuf drank too much and got emotional over HSM comments lol.


Sober up sxb

At least I suggested a solution for part of the somali problem. What do you contribute here nothing. While I believed this idea for years and even mentioned here multiple times over the years , any time I see the amount of money and human resources we are wasting in sool and sanaag dispute I ask my self is it worth. Why somaliland is claiming only half of harti while we can bring all together and make a deal as equal partners.

[MrSinister]

A confederation type of system is more realistic as Phinks said. I agree that both Somaliland and Puntland are being held back by the south.

[STARKAST]

@phinks I bet the word faqash originates from majeerten themselves. Since they were the victims of kacaanka long before us. Dhulbahante and mareexan were the real faqash and they are still faqash sympathisers. Most MJs dislike faqash and admire their SSDF mujaahidiin. . That's the fact whether you agree or not . If puntland and somaliland do not unite, we both keep wasting our meager resources for nothing. And there will never be other solution unless one of us gives up the territory they claim and remove it from their constitution.

If we do not seek for solution puntland has more to loose compare to somaliland. Atleast somaliland core areas is far from the conflict zone. Rag waa kii arin keena ama aqbal keena.

Exactly, so why the hate against MJ/Puntites? Because deep down you know we're not like the South, Idoor are not more civilised than MJ, I'll die on this hill. If you were in Puntland flying that flag of yours, you wouldn't be touched, can the same be said for my case? I doubt it. Face it, if MJ were chaotic and killing/raping like the rest, you'd be calling us friends and backing us, this is the truth.

I don't care what you or the South thinks, as long as MJ lands are administered by Puntland, I'll always be happy with the status-quo, question is, will you? How long can this ictiraaf dream drag on before the Idoors start revolting? You want my advice? Stop pushing for Somaliland (a British gaal colony legacy) and start pushing for a Confederation, then you'll have my support.

100%

Let me add further the reason why Somalis are anti MJ is due to pure envy.

We are like a stone that cannot be moved and swing in wind that we blow...full stop.

[STARKAST]

The more we compromise today the better for our future generations .

How about reer waaqoyi comprimise their kibir and make it their interest to *help* pacify the south.
Try not to insult the irir hutu nation who you condescend and maybe try help out.


Whats better is power sharing between former British and Italian Somaliland regions for the FGS seat and federalism intact for local admin. This will help you with your HY fifth column.

Let's use common sense, if the whole world including the Great USA failed to pacify the south for 30 years, what makes you thing we can solve their problem . It's complicated. Puntland and somaliland unity makes more sense to me it saves a lot of time and resources we spend in the name of defence and it brings more stability, I don't have to sacrifice my self to do an other man's dirt work. I don't want my peaple to get involved never ending none sense wars. We want peace and life just like other civilised human beings.

Yusuf I'm glad your realising that Harti waaqoyi are 2 types.

Which are

1) Down syndrome children who know NO loyalty and only money money money. Pure blood suckers who blow to whoever pay them more.

2) Pure Faqash with pride who know that their father is a Darood man and have loyalty to unionist entities such as pl/fgs/their own admins.


In regards to Reer pl Harti despite being through clan cleansing in 91 by Hutu and kacan in 70s we let bygones be bygones for the sake of Somalia with our Muslim brothers.

So Reer waaqoyi need to cut the kibir like your named Charles or James from Southampton and learn to accept your irir hutu blood brothers samaale as country men.

[theyuusuf143]

I leave this subject for the thinkers. In the meantime let's keep doing what we're already doing . Wa billahi tawfiiq. Thanks for your Participation.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

@phinks I bet the word faqash originates from majeerten themselves. Since they were the victims of kacaanka long before us. Dhulbahante and mareexan were the real faqash and they are still faqash sympathisers. Most MJs dislike faqash and admire their SSDF mujaahidiin. . That's the fact whether you agree or not . If puntland and somaliland do not unite, we both keep wasting our meager resources for nothing. And there will never be other solution unless one of us gives up the territory they claim and remove it from their constitution.

If we do not seek for solution puntland has more to loose compare to somaliland. Atleast somaliland core areas is far from the conflict zone. Rag waa kii arin keena ama aqbal keena.

Exactly, so why the hate against MJ/Puntites? Because deep down you know we're not like the South, Idoor are not more civilised than MJ, I'll die on this hill. If you were in Puntland flying that flag of yours, you wouldn't be touched, can the same be said for my case? I doubt it. Face it, if MJ were chaotic and killing/raping like the rest, you'd be calling us friends and backing us, this is the truth.

I don't care what you or the South thinks, as long as MJ lands are administered by Puntland, I'll always be happy with the status-quo, question is, will you? How long can this ictiraaf dream drag on before the Idoors start revolting? You want my advice? Stop pushing for Somaliland (a British gaal colony legacy) and start pushing for a Confederation, then you'll have my support.

So does the South. It’s the capital bro that’s held against its own will. Either change the capital or free it. That’s my opinion

[BigBreak]

Sorry Yusuf but it's a garbage idea. Bari and Nugaal regions along with a unified Mudug are all part of Somalia. Somalia means just Italian Somalia colony. Somaliland and Somalia will forever be two separate countries. All African countries including Ethiopia have colonial made borders not tribal borders and that will stay how it is forever

PS It's more likely Somaliland unites with Ethiopia than reunites with Zoomalia

[Isseayaanle]

A confederation type of system is more realistic as Phinks said. I agree that both Somaliland and Puntland are being held back by the south.

So you guys want the rest of southern clans to be stuck with Hutus while Somaliland and putland helped Hutus get to this place? Ummm no thanks. We peacefull southerners are different from Hutus and aren’t uncivilized. So if y’all want to leave, we’ll leave also. But, we will not be stuck with Hutus who all thinks the same. Hunger, poverty, daily killings, looting, terriorst, etc. remember that putland and Somaliland are the key holders to the status quo and only they can end it NOT Hutus.

[Khalid Ali]

Somaliland will never be a reality. I'm suprised your kind still cling to this fake dream of yours, you will never rule the very faqash you claim to despise.

Isaaq, HAG, rest of Darood, they're no different to each other, unlike Puntites, your nature is evil at the heart.

The status-quo will remain forever, get over it or at least try something new for once.

I am very happy with the status quo darood having no chance in Mogadishu. The walanweyns are up in flames shabaab getting strong and majeerteenia shrinking we took over boocame lost month we finilised our mega port city. Berbera. So many democratic elections we are very happy with the status quo it can only get better and better we have a great major in the capital. And the darood have been defeated on all fronts