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Sinister does not support Al- Shabab directly but he is one of those who are okay with their tight rule in the south and makes noises when those regions want to start liberating themselves.

For him a liberated Hirshabelle is a personal threat from Hag
A liberated Koonfur Galbeed is a political threat
And a liberated Jubaland will end the status quo shown towards Puntland which is currently seen as the leading figure for Darood’s in 4.5

If those 3 states I’ve mentioned were to become totally free and autonomous then Puntland would advocate for independence! Why? Because nobody will give a flying fuck about Puntland. It neither has coastal off shore oil nor farmland to crop.

They are now desperate and begging for DDS to invest in Garacad because their main Port of Bosaso was killed due to heavy corruption & competition from Berbera thus removing them from the investment market completely

Ask yourself why Puntland tried to veto the oil deal between the Fgs & FMs when it’s the only state that doesn’t have any offshore oil? Even the tiny oil located in the Nugaal valley is entirely in the hands of the SNM regime controlling Sool region.

Rebel,

Truth be told you owe MrSinister everything. It was always Puntland refusing the shirar while the 3 other states came. If Deni cooperated with N&N even with your KDF support you'd still be in perilous waters. This is coming from someone who hates Deni calooolay.

Rebelxx222 wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:51 am ReturnofMariixman

Sinister does not support Al- Shabab directly but he is one of those who are okay with their tight rule in the south and makes noises when those regions want to start liberating themselves.

For him a liberated Hirshabelle is a personal threat from Hag
A liberated Koonfur Galbeed is a political threat
And a liberated Jubaland will end the status quo shown towards Puntland which is currently seen as the leading figure for Darood’s in 4.5

If those 3 states I’ve mentioned were to become totally free and autonomous then Puntland would advocate for independence! Why? Because nobody will give a flying fuck about Puntland. It neither has coastal off shore oil nor farmland to crop.

They are now desperate and begging for DDS to invest in Garacad because their main Port of Bosaso was killed due to heavy corruption & competition from Berbera thus removing them from the investment market completely

Ask yourself why Puntland tried to veto the oil deal between the Fgs & FMs when it’s the only state that doesn’t have any offshore oil? Even the tiny oil located in the Nugaal valley is entirely in the hands of the SNM regime controlling Sool region.

There’s key points I disagree. Our interests in Somalia is those two states. Marehan are minding their business as of now. We tried to give them governance. But it was BOTH of you hating on us. So my brother. That’s our view

Murax wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:00 pm Rebel,

Truth be told you owe MrSinister everything. It was always Puntland refusing the shirar while the 3 other states came. If Deni cooperated with N&N even with your KDF support you'd still be in perilous waters. This is coming from someone who hates Deni calooolay.

They spend capital - social, political, and financial to hold them. What’s the ROI? A divided state and a HAG president. Salaams brother

Rebel

You haven’t answered any questions about being beneficiaries of Kenyan troops. If you were secure in your abilities, you wouldn’t need foreign troops.

Yes, AY(aun) brought foreign troops to mogadisho, but only because they south was in complete shambles and terrorism was taking root.

But majerteen don’t claim to be majority in Mogadishu, you claim to be majority in kismayo but you need kdf troops, why is that? Why can’t ogaden macawiisleey fight shabab in buaale or even hold kismayo? You are skirting the issue because everybody knows what you are. In every country you live in, you are a two dollar love oo la isticmaalo.

Acting like a big man on bantu tanks is a shameful behaviour. At least have some shame and say we are happy be protectorate of Kenya.

Ogadens have been claiming kismayo since the 1860s which we conquered from Gaalo Madow.

As for Kenya they are only there for political reasons. As for KDF I only prefer my Ogaden soldiers and generals. Lower Juba region is entirely manned by Ogaden Jubbaland soldiers and kdf only physically operates in Gedo which is not my issue.

your reasoning that Ogadens can’t claim kismayo because AMISOM is there?? Does that also not apply to the Rahaweynes in Baydhabo and the Hawiyes in Mogadishu who also have AMISOM presence within their own cities.

I have always advocated for an autonomous Jubaland with an independent state army and intelligence unit because I do not prefer Atmis forces nor do I have trust when it comes to the corrupted SNA Army.

Just like how you rely on the UAE to fund your PMPF militas is no different to my project of trying to establish my own security force that will liberate my lands and stabilize them.

Here’s Abdinasir sola claiming that he was forced to pay money to a Ugandanese soldier in xamar who was operating an isbaaro checkpoint.



Even Madoobe himself said that all AMISOM does is sit in their bases and collect monthly payment. It’s only Somali troops defending the land and Somali troops that will eventually liberate it

I know Jubaland is not perfect but it has survived the FGs political attack for many years and are wanting to replace all Atmis troops within the state with their own native soldiers. When was the last time Atmis carried out a mission in Jubaland? Jubaland only relies on their own soldiers and will soon replace Atmis with their own armed forces

Rebel,

The maps say different. They have a claim to Lower Jubba. Separate politics and deegaan.

XL faalka ka xumaaday hadaa ilmihiina la duqeeyo beelaha kale kuwooda ceshteen ileen wax HG aa shariiko ku noqon kartiin lama arag, Shabaab oo Galmudug wasiiro ka noqdaa idin ka xigta, Hirshabelle kuraas agaasimo iyo wasiir intaba waana ku dhannahay hadaan jifadeyda ka hadlo bes



Yar uu Cali Wardhiigley adeer uyahay aa jago ka heysta Hirshabelle, Balcad, Qalimoow, Janaale iyo Ceel Ure waxba ha u bixin Guudlaawe intuu xil mudanyahay waa la macaalimaynaa, siyaasadeeni hana noo Kheyreysan, mugaa Xasan Macalin madaxweyne u dhisi rabnaa intee taaganyihiin Xawaadle

OwQarib,

That’s why you beezani