SL opposition declare Muse Biixi govt illegitimate

[noer]

granpa terror didn't itell u no somaliland civil war habarka naga da shb. mostly peaceful protests. no clashes. no tribe militias. no police massacring protestors. no war. we're not the ex italian colony

[Murax]

Reer Somalilandow xal qaata aniga bari baan ka ahay the crazy stuff these tol members of mine are saying.


Grandpakhalif, Saddam qolodaan banaanka ka mar Wallahi oo Billahi wey ka gobsanyihiin Koonfur dhan.


Don’t make us sound like misery loves company. Muuse Bixi goes wherever he wants in Somaliland, your president is guarded by a Bantu lady when he takes a shyt.


Rabiyow Raxmaano Somaliland Xifdhi

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Reer Somalilandow xal qaata aniga bari baan ka ahay the crazy stuff these tol members of mine are saying.


Grandpakhalif, Saddam qolodaan banaanka ka mar Wallahi oo Billahi wey ka gobsanyihiin Koonfur dhan.


Don’t make us sound like misery loves company. Muuse Bixi goes wherever he wants in Somaliland, your president is guarded by a Bantu lady when he takes a shyt.


Rabiyow Raxmaano Somaliland Xifdhi

Sharing the news. I’m not the apologist MX. I’ll never apologize for being MX. Nor will I apologize for being hostile when Somalia in its current form was made to suppress my divine right as sovereign

[Murax]

Reer Somalilandow xal qaata aniga bari baan ka ahay the crazy stuff these tol members of mine are saying.


Grandpakhalif, Saddam qolodaan banaanka ka mar Wallahi oo Billahi wey ka gobsanyihiin Koonfur dhan.


Don’t make us sound like misery loves company. Muuse Bixi goes wherever he wants in Somaliland, your president is guarded by a Bantu lady when he takes a shyt.


Rabiyow Raxmaano Somaliland Xifdhi

Sharing the news. I’m not the apologist MX. I’ll never apologize for being MX. Nor will I apologize for being hostile when Somalia in its current form was made to suppress my divine right as sovereign

Nobody is saying be a apologist MX, but don’t be a hater MX. It’s not MX dhaqan to be a hater.

Besides who ‘made somalia to suppress your right to be sovereign’? We did collectively. This same Sland you’re speaking negatively on ironically are more welcoming to you than your capital, or your Kenyan citizens in Kismaayo Mr William Fufu Wuchabga

[Khalid Ali]

Murax has spoken asa true gob and he is right. Marexaan is more welcoming and their bussines And assets are protected by the govt of somaliland cidna kuma xadgudbi karta So in that sends its true it’s more welcoming then the bunker with all its qaraxyo

Yaan waxbalaga qorin grandpaterror iyo Fatboy saddam

[theyuusuf143]

Soomaliyey run ma idiin sheegna shacabka somaliland hub ma haystan. Waanu iska qaylqaylin karna ee dawlada waxba kama qaadi karno xitaa haday 10 sano korodhsato. Tomorrow markay garxajis Ku yimaadan ilaahay uunbaa Ka kaxayn kara guriga Morgan. Nidaamka aanu qaadanay ilaahay iyo madaxwaynaha awood u dhexaysa ma jirto. Awal beesha caalamka u qayshan jirnee , beeshii caalamkana muuse meesha wuu Ka saaray oo doorashooyinka 95% dawlada bixisa dhaqaalaha Ku baxa. Anigu aad baan ula dhacsanahay siduu madaxwaynuhu wax u wado waa si u fiican somaliland in the long term. Wuxu xiniinyo siibay Beelihii . Markasta oo awooda beeluhu daciifto waxa xoogaysata awooda qaranka.

[Nomand]

Murax spoke facts.

We wish the people of somaliland a peaceful conclusion to their elections.

[Gubbet]

This same Sland you’re speaking negatively on ironically are more welcoming to you than your capital, or your Kenyan citizens in Kismaayo Mr William Fufu Wuchabga

I think going to Hargeisa---a place I don't even have extended relatives or kin, no equity, no personal family connection or ties that is unique or more than any other location---was the most impactful trip in my entire life. "Impactful" as in not I saw a new place, had new experience, yacni travelogue---no, iI mean mpact is in measuring what it changed before and after.

Going to Hargeisa and even taking time to travel around there changed my entire opinion, perspective, worldview, thoughts about, how I viewed, tc etc etc one of the most biggest questions/issues in the Somali world.

1. An entire group of Somalis (Isaaq) who functioned no bigger or more relevant "identity feature" than what I interacted with entirely through fkd and banter (yacni I am a Marehan of Italian Somalia, Habar Gidirtaan maalin kastaan islaynaa, they are real to me but Isaaq and Dhulbahante find each other a reality like that not Isaaq and I) became a real, existing, group of people all of a sudden and whom at very single real experience with them after that point----made me like them, appreciate them, value them, internalize their humanity, and found myself becoming an ally to their right to their aspiration, their right to justice amd grievance.

I literally am a supporter of Somaliland's right to exist as long as they have that position.

I do not think anyone's idea of "how Somali should be" ala let's be 1 Somaliweyn or I want you to be with me in 1 big house should come at the expense of how THEY want to live. I even have come to internalize how insulting, paternalistic, and ingratiating it sounds wallahi "I know what's best for you, come with me by force". Now I even subconsciously think when I see a hippie lala Somaliweynist under kumbaya saying that to a Somalilander---"no b.itch, get out of their face, you look demented and you don't inspire anyone to want to live with you."

War dadkaan waan jeclaaday wallahi when I was in their home. Wallahi couple times I actually thought of a couple Isaaq Snetters and I was like how unfortunate for reerkaan wallahi. The kacanist, Jaale Marehan woke V underwent a natural babtism to be reborn a friend and ally---of no conceivable benefit to me at all---just by the sheer goodness and decency of the common, individual Isaaq human being entirely experienced as a guest in his home --wax aan walaalnimo of the warmest kind ahayn la ima tusin even folks we politically had different rationalizations about in perspective--the absolute best friend I made xata in the beginning faqash iyo hadalo xanafleh buu isticmaalayay as part of general convo in a public discussion about current events, yet randomly comes to me with sheepish xishood wax yar ka bacdi and says gacanta/suxulka isagoo igu dhagay "dee walaal dee maxaad isku kaaya sheegi wayse...." ka waran that's pround walaalnimo qof kaas kuu hayay wuu ka damqaday that he offended you as Marehan ka waran, waan qoslay wallahi, became my best friend of the experience --but speaking for and representing these people in my previous experience was Vampire toothed, intensely angry and profoundly unlikeable people who hurt everything good for their cause. War let the average, person in Hargeisa or there represent their cause. Diaspora people of types are the real enemies to the causes they claim to support.

As for Saddam, lately he likes taking potshots at me and you can be sure "apologist" anigu iga wadaa dee since aniguna kama gaabsado to speak without mincing words, Saddam you are the applogist brother, you are the liberal hippie, you are the loft idealist not living in real politik in this issue. Fock fake unity brother, if you and your brother cannot live under the same roof, waxaad ku qurxantihiin inad laba guri kala degtaan. Fock that fake unity 5 star bs. Somalis never had a historical state and neither have one today either because it is UNNATURAL to politically administratively unite on the basis of Somalinimo. It never existed and it doesn't exist now. Somaliland is uniting around a different heritage and konfur should unite behind the internalized koonfur political heritage. The apologism is the glue that holds all of the hippie lala land. You got Rwandan machete scenes today between folks who count 4-5 names from each other and some still want to tell Rer Hargeisa that circus of hell is what is best for them beause of roses and sugers of being "Somali.". Like Murax said, they rationally and logically and even deliberatively chose what is best for them and so far it sure looks helluva lot better than anything we are part of in the south.

And ha igu xanaaqin or even misinterpret my tone sxb, what I said brothaman deserves to be said on the merits.

P.S. Real Talk Khalid, my personal opinion as 3rd party observer is love Somaliland more than Bixi. Your position in this is sectarian and is bearing the seeds that will bite the Somaliland project in the back. Ka hor tag hada by arresting your own bias. Don't look at the present moment from meel hoose, look at it from above the fray. Clearly Muuse cannot vacate power now to disorder, but it is a failure on him and a grave wound he inflicted on Somaliland internal cohesion.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Reer Somalilandow xal qaata aniga bari baan ka ahay the crazy stuff these tol members of mine are saying.


Grandpakhalif, Saddam qolodaan banaanka ka mar Wallahi oo Billahi wey ka gobsanyihiin Koonfur dhan.


Don’t make us sound like misery loves company. Muuse Bixi goes wherever he wants in Somaliland, your president is guarded by a Bantu lady when he takes a shyt.


Rabiyow Raxmaano Somaliland Xifdhi

Sharing the news. I’m not the apologist MX. I’ll never apologize for being MX. Nor will I apologize for being hostile when Somalia in its current form was made to suppress my divine right as sovereign

Nobody is saying be a apologist MX, but don’t be a hater MX. It’s not MX dhaqan to be a hater.

Besides who ‘made somalia to suppress your right to be sovereign’? We did collectively. This same Sland you’re speaking negatively on ironically are more welcoming to you than your capital, or your Kenyan citizens in Kismaayo Mr William Fufu Wuchabga

I’m not a hater. I’m responding to disrespect. I don’t tolerate disrespect

[BigBreak]

Who from SL disrespected you though Saddam?

[Khalid Ali]

This same Sland you’re speaking negatively on ironically are more welcoming to you than your capital, or your Kenyan citizens in Kismaayo Mr William Fufu Wuchabga

I think going to Hargeisa---a place I don't even have extended relatives or kin, no equity, no personal family connection or ties that is unique or more than any other location---was the most impactful trip in my entire life. "Impactful" as in not I saw a new place, had new experience, yacni travelogue---no, iI mean mpact is in measuring what it changed before and after.

Going to Hargeisa and even taking time to travel around there changed my entire opinion, perspective, worldview, thoughts about, how I viewed, tc etc etc one of the most biggest questions/issues in the Somali world.

1. An entire group of Somalis (Isaaq) who functioned no bigger or more relevant "identity feature" than what I interacted with entirely through fkd and banter (yacni I am a Marehan of Italian Somalia, Habar Gidirtaan maalin kastaan islaynaa, they are real to me but Isaaq and Dhulbahante find each other a reality like that not Isaaq and I) became a real, existing, group of people all of a sudden and whom at very single real experience with them after that point----made me like them, appreciate them, value them, internalize their humanity, and found myself becoming an ally to their right to their aspiration, their right to justice amd grievance.

I literally am a supporter of Somaliland's right to exist as long as they have that position.

I do not think anyone's idea of "how Somali should be" ala let's be 1 Somaliweyn or I want you to be with me in 1 big house should come at the expense of how THEY want to live. I even have come to internalize how insulting, paternalistic, and ingratiating it sounds wallahi "I know what's best for you, come with me by force". Now I even subconsciously think when I see a hippie lala Somaliweynist under kumbaya saying that to a Somalilander---"no b.itch, get out of their face, you look demented and you don't inspire anyone to want to live with you."

War dadkaan waan jeclaaday wallahi when I was in their home. Wallahi couple times I actually thought of a couple Isaaq Snetters and I was like how unfortunate for reerkaan wallahi. The kacanist, Jaale Marehan woke V underwent a natural babtism to be reborn a friend and ally---of no conceivable benefit to me at all---just by the sheer goodness and decency of the common, individual Isaaq human being entirely experienced as a guest in his home --wax aan walaalnimo of the warmest kind ahayn la ima tusin even folks we politically had different rationalizations about in perspective--the absolute best friend I made xata in the beginning faqash iyo hadalo xanafleh buu isticmaalayay as part of general convo in a public discussion about current events, yet randomly comes to me with sheepish xishood wax yar ka bacdi and says gacanta/suxulka isagoo igu dhagay "dee walaal dee maxaad isku kaaya sheegi wayse...." ka waran that's pround walaalnimo qof kaas kuu hayay wuu ka damqaday that he offended you as Marehan ka waran, waan qoslay wallahi, became my best friend of the experience --but speaking for and representing these people in my previous experience was Vampire toothed, intensely angry and profoundly unlikeable people who hurt everything good for their cause. War let the average, person in Hargeisa or there represent their cause. Diaspora people of types are the real enemies to the causes they claim to support.

As for Saddam, lately he likes taking potshots at me and you can be sure "apologist" anigu iga wadaa dee since aniguna kama gaabsado to speak without mincing words, Saddam you are the applogist brother, you are the liberal hippie, you are the loft idealist not living in real politik in this issue. Fock fake unity brother, if you and your brother cannot live under the same roof, waxaad ku qurxantihiin inad laba guri kala degtaan. Fock that fake unity 5 star bs. Somalis never had a historical state and neither have one today either because it is UNNATURAL to politically administratively unite on the basis of Somalinimo. It never existed and it doesn't exist now. Somaliland is uniting around a different heritage and konfur should unite behind the internalized koonfur political heritage. The apologism is the glue that holds all of the hippie lala land. You got Rwandan machete scenes today between folks who count 4-5 names from each other and some still want to tell Rer Hargeisa that circus of hell is what is best for them beause of roses and sugers of being "Somali.". Like Murax said, they rationally and logically and even deliberatively chose what is best for them and so far it sure looks helluva lot better than anything we are part of in the south.

And ha igu xanaaqin or even misinterpret my tone sxb, what I said brothaman deserves to be said on the merits.

P.S. Real Talk Khalid, my personal opinion as 3rd party observer is love Somaliland more than Bixi. Your position in this is sectarian and is bearing the seeds that will bite the Somaliland project in the back. Ka hor tag hada by arresting your own bias. Don't look at the present moment from meel hoose, look at it from above the fray. Clearly Muuse cannot vacate power now to disorder, but it is a failure on him and a grave wound he inflicted on Somaliland internal cohesion.

well spoken voltage
voltage has really matured and i like this way of thinking its good that u see the that the cancerous union between somalia and somaliland destroyed both ourcountries had we not united there wouldnt be a war ,, for example if somaliland never joined somalia. Abdirashid would have not been killed in laascanood. Isaaq would have not incite hawiye to take up arms against siyaad barre. The war would have never happend,. i actually think Marehaan is the best leadership for italian somalia. as they truely believe in koonfuriams apart from the hippies such as fat boy saddam who believes wax aan macquul ahayn. But just look at farmaajo and his achievements in five years. The bunker looks much better then it was before . wuu yara dhalaaliye godki . and much of the hawiye and rahanweyn marehaan can relate to . as the only darood clan with deep roots in southern somalia... All in all i hope more people like u see the light like u did

[MrSinister]

One thing you have to respect about SL is they’ve disarmed their civilians. PL has as well, in the major cities. However In the south, everyone is armed, one of the reasons you will never have a strong federal government there especially in Mogadishu. If one clan is not happy, they can chimp out and destroy everything. Muse bixi is a dictator, but the people shouldn’t destroy their cities because of that.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Gubbet,

Somalinimo is the answer after 30 years of failure. Siad Barre is vindicated. I have a state. Irrespective of foreign occupation or not. Somalis have a common heritage, language, religion, and genealogical traditions. To deny that is to deny your own history as a people. The excuses of the past aren’t working. Whether you like Siad Barre or not. We were feared and a regional power. That’s what I want to return. And federalism is my civil war concession. The difference is I’m cold to the past. All I see is Somalis getting disrespected, collectively. That’s why I’m disrespectful BACK. It’s the Garbaharey in me

[MrSinister]

I’m curious why are the marexaans (except saddam) not sympathizing with garxajis here? Muse bixi is acting no different than madobe towards marexaan in JL. The garxajis waited their turn to lead the country and when it was their time, the whole system was changed and muse bixi illegally extended his term. Dictatorship is not good long term for any region. It builds hatred and resentment

[Khalid Ali]

Gubbet,

Somalinimo is the answer after 30 years of failure. Siad Barre is vindicated. I have a state. Irrespective of foreign occupation or not. Somalis have a common heritage, language, religion, and genealogical traditions. To deny that is to deny your own history as a people. The excuses of the past aren’t working. Whether you like Siad Barre or not. We were feared and a regional power. That’s what I want to return. And federalism is my civil war concession. The difference is I’m cold to the past. All I see is Somalis getting disrespected, collectively. That’s why I’m disrespectful BACK. It’s the Garbaharey in me

What is Somali Nimo according to you it’s the most abused misrepresented term thrown.by all fake so called nationalist Somalis who claim they are nationalists. Also just because one shares the same ethnic groups doesn’t mean it should be under one country there are twenty three Arab states and kingdoms . With each it’s own customs traditions political and national identity. In africa there are luo in Kenya Uganda Tanzania imagine if they said all these people have to be United because of a shared kinship. The Tigray and Eritrea another example shared kinship but they. Can never be one country . The Dutch and Belgium Dutch vlaamish is the same language . But they can’t be the same country