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I thought Ogaden were occupied slaves of Ethiopia? Strange to see the champions of such narrative now literally on their knees, begging to become slaves for the Ogaden slaves. xishoodku waa iimaankii badhkii bilaash looma odhan.

eliteSomali wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:03 am I thought Ogaden were occupied slaves of Ethiopia? Strange to see the champions of such narrative now literally on their knees, begging to become slaves for the Ogaden slaves. xishoodku waa iimaankii badhkii bilaash looma odhan.

The above is Exhibit A for observation

Gubbet wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:42 pm
Mustafe Cagjar is in a predicament---because, according to my observation, the "entire" clan of Ogaadeen are vehemently and viscerally opposed to any recognition or justice for Marehan in eastern Somali region--- even expressing physical sickness at the thought.

Ever once in a while, I go to look at what "Mire Iro" is saying (and this man makes ME sick coming across the degree of his enmity and hatred for Marehan) and I never leave without reconfirming how existentially threatening any recognition or justice for Marehan in Somali Region is for Ogaadeen [They really exhibit the paranoia moving forward towards historical justice on this issue somehow threatens their entire legitimacy to "Somali Region."

It is stunning wallahi---I have never seen an entire "group" of people implicated in a desire for the continued proliferation of injustice as I have come across on this issue from the antagonist to Marehan legal and just enfrenchisement.

We will get our de jure representation for the de facto authority, control, and existence we have always held over our land---

---and then you will finally understand it is not even called "Doh" and "Doollo"---the only people who live in it only know it as Buuro and Ceel-Cad!

And the relevance of "Doh" and "Doollo" stop at the road connecting Warder and Shilabo towns.

East of that line is known as "Buuro" by the people who singularly have ever lived in it ---

It was "Buuro" in 1873;


It has been "Buuro" in the 100+ years in between;


It is "Buuro" today.


Like Buurta Raqo!

And Buurta Ceel Dibir!




And Buurta Ceel Baxay!

And Buuraha Golwayn iyo Burgeesoole!








Indhoadeeg wallahi, to even catch "feelings" about Marehan dealing with Ethiopia to finally address the disenfranchisement of his land!

You don't live in this land; you have NEVER lived in this land--you don't even know it's god damn name!

The land is Buuro! Not "Doh" and "Doollo" which cease existence past Lahelow-Yucub closer to Qabridahar than to Burgeesoole!

Antoine D'Abaddie knew it in 1873 and the fact none of you do is all you need to know the fake, superficial, non-existent lie behind you even getting "motivated" to contest Marehan equity that does not materially, consequentially, or even spiritually implicate your real equity!

The land is known by the people who actually settle in it as "Buuro."

eliteSomali wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:03 am I thought Ogaden were occupied slaves of Ethiopia? Strange to see the champions of such narrative now literally on their knees, begging to become slaves for the Ogaden slaves. xishoodku waa iimaankii badhkii bilaash looma odhan.

How would you describe yourself in your own words if not a slave, I am asking because I have seen Ogaden describe themselves as slaves of Ethiopia.

Voltage Golweyn use to be a woreda back in Hararghe days, back in the day it was actually worse in Galaadi area for MX, but it gradually extended to Wardheer and then Shilaabo.

Can you believe an MJ guy use to be manager of Shilaabo woreda, in todays age this will be impossible, even the current Gumcadle mayor of Shilaabo will lose his position, its inevitable, this is a MX land.

Hulkujir wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:19 am

eliteSomali wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:03 am I thought Ogaden were occupied slaves of Ethiopia? Strange to see the champions of such narrative now literally on their knees, begging to become slaves for the Ogaden slaves. xishoodku waa iimaankii badhkii bilaash looma odhan.

How would you describe yourself in your own words if not a slave, I am asking because I have seen Ogaden describe themselves as slaves of Ethiopia.

Voltage Golweyn use to be a woreda back in Hararghe days, back in the day it was actually worse in Galaadi area for MX, but it gradually extended to Wardheer and then Shilaabo.

Can you believe an MJ guy use to be manager of Shilaabo woreda, in todays age this will be impossible, even the current Gumcadle mayor of Shilaabo will lose his position, its inevitable, this is a MX land.

The lack of self awareness is astonishing! ninkaa la gumeysto yaad sidii midgaan tuugsanaysaa ee maxaad adugu isku sifayn hayd? "walaalo hal degmo uun inoo quudha" is apparently the exactly words of your clan chiefs. You should not be insulting anyone, especially not the same people from who you are begging recognition and representation.

eliteSomali wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:14 pm

Hulkujir wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:19 am

eliteSomali wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:03 am I thought Ogaden were occupied slaves of Ethiopia? Strange to see the champions of such narrative now literally on their knees, begging to become slaves for the Ogaden slaves. xishoodku waa iimaankii badhkii bilaash looma odhan.

How would you describe yourself in your own words if not a slave, I am asking because I have seen Ogaden describe themselves as slaves of Ethiopia.

Voltage Golweyn use to be a woreda back in Hararghe days, back in the day it was actually worse in Galaadi area for MX, but it gradually extended to Wardheer and then Shilaabo.

Can you believe an MJ guy use to be manager of Shilaabo woreda, in todays age this will be impossible, even the current Gumcadle mayor of Shilaabo will lose his position, its inevitable, this is a MX land.

The lack of self awareness is astonishing! ninkaa la gumeysto yaad sidii midgaan tuugsanaysaa ee maxaad adugu isku sifayn hayd? "walaalo hal degmo uun inoo quudha" is apparently the exactly words of your clan chiefs. You should not be insulting anyone, especially not the same people from who you are begging recognition and representation.

Oh you will be very bitter walle iyo bille!

Hulkujir-

This has nothing to do with Majerten. The only thing Majerten did is realize long before Marehan---what they had to do to make sure the fellow up there called "EliteSomali" did not manipulate them with superficial "ethnic nationalism" at their expense and his use! Waa rag rag dhalay Majeerteen!

Had I, in any branch of learning, a fraction of the op's vivid imagination in matters of so little or no importance, waxaan aaminsaney inaa prove gareyn lahaa way more profitable to nafteyda, dadkeyga iyo dalkeygaba. Unfortunately, "Dio da il pane quello che non sa masticare", as an Italian proverb has it.

barbarossa wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:21 pm in matters of so little or no importance,

I am convinced---when ever the descriptions of hypocrites were being inspired in the memory of Man; in some form or capacity, a previous entity with your same, exact disposition---at least as manifested here without fail, even once---must have been a profound and self-evident example.

eliteSomali wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:14 pm

Hulkujir wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:19 am

eliteSomali wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:03 am I thought Ogaden were occupied slaves of Ethiopia? Strange to see the champions of such narrative now literally on their knees, begging to become slaves for the Ogaden slaves. xishoodku waa iimaankii badhkii bilaash looma odhan.

How would you describe yourself in your own words if not a slave, I am asking because I have seen Ogaden describe themselves as slaves of Ethiopia.

Voltage Golweyn use to be a woreda back in Hararghe days, back in the day it was actually worse in Galaadi area for MX, but it gradually extended to Wardheer and then Shilaabo.

Can you believe an MJ guy use to be manager of Shilaabo woreda, in todays age this will be impossible, even the current Gumcadle mayor of Shilaabo will lose his position, its inevitable, this is a MX land.

The lack of self awareness is astonishing! ninkaa la gumeysto yaad sidii midgaan tuugsanaysaa ee maxaad adugu isku sifayn hayd? "walaalo hal degmo uun inoo quudha" is apparently the exactly words of your clan chiefs. You should not be insulting anyone, especially not the same people from who you are begging recognition and representation.

No one is insulting OG are you smocking crack

Voltage would like to see a better representation for Maheran in DDS but never acknowledge Ogaden preeminence in Jubaland since colonial era and beyond.

Simply put, Marehan attracts more enemies than friends mainly due to their immense bravado.They live in past kacaan glory in a way similar to the ajurans who boost about their mediveal tribal dynasty

BestP wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:19 pm preeminence

Your entire point contained a self-nullification.

Cagjar has surprised me, he didnt take sides in the Makahiil v Rer Diini conflict, nor did he send paramilitary troops to massacre MX in Buuro. He is the opposite of his predecessor who only accepted Wagardhac grievance but never Reer Diini.

I think this pivot is due to MX increasingly showing that they are a formidable force in DDSI and cannot be bullied. But its also MX fault for not pursuing represenration earlier and chasing the failed Somali irredentism ideal. I am glad we have woken up

Hulkujir wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:42 pm

eliteSomali wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:14 pm

Hulkujir wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:19 am
How would you describe yourself in your own words if not a slave, I am asking because I have seen Ogaden describe themselves as slaves of Ethiopia.

Voltage Golweyn use to be a woreda back in Hararghe days, back in the day it was actually worse in Galaadi area for MX, but it gradually extended to Wardheer and then Shilaabo.

Can you believe an MJ guy use to be manager of Shilaabo woreda, in todays age this will be impossible, even the current Gumcadle mayor of Shilaabo will lose his position, its inevitable, this is a MX land.

The lack of self awareness is astonishing! ninkaa la gumeysto yaad sidii midgaan tuugsanaysaa ee maxaad adugu isku sifayn hayd? "walaalo hal degmo uun inoo quudha" is apparently the exactly words of your clan chiefs. You should not be insulting anyone, especially not the same people from who you are begging recognition and representation.

No one is insulting OG are you smocking crack

You are "insulting" by remarking on the "reality."

Marehan in eastern Somali region is about 60% of Shilabo woreda, about 50% to 55% of Warder woreda, and approximately about 50% of Geladi woreda.



When you add Deka Suftu woreda in Liban to Marehan in eastern Somali Region, Marehan lands are about the same size as Gobolka Sitti of the northwestern most region of Somali Region ---or just shy of all of Mohamed Zuber lands in Somali Region.

Wallahi the unyielding paranoia towards recognition of Marehan equity in Somali Region is very palpable for a reason.

There is an 80 year lie about the "Ogaden."