Dhulbahante Hawdeed were to move with Marehan Galti to Jubba

[theyuusuf143]

Dhulbahante is not linked to isaaq, they are darod and linked to their own tribe. You say they are linked because you are hj with blood ties to them

Of course they are more closer to me than you , i only learned about your clan recently , I actually don't know you. The only thing that unites me and you is our goal. Which we are both determined , well atleast from my side . If we achieve our goal I Will always be their side. I am not the type of guy you expect to slaughter his neighbours. I would rather kill you if you try to harm them. You may ask why ? Well no matter what ever happens we Will always be Jaar , markaa maxaa godob luqunta ii sudhaya. Waa la noolaan doonaa !

Nin rag ah, ilaahay haynaga wada dhigo kuwaa jaarkooda ula dhaqma sida walaalahood

I think this should be the case for any one Living in a conflict zone. Your neighbour will never disappear. Rwanda is good example. The more you kill the more you feel ashamed for what you have done .

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Dhulo and mx never even met before 1970 lol, question is how does mx expect loyalty from dhulo who isn’t even loyal to darod like mj and og who live next door to them and have blood ties

They don’t share borders and there is less conflict between MX and Dh. Also, they are the two large clans that have been screwed by federalism. So they have that in common.

Still, I never understood why they supported farmajo so much when he did nothing for them.

“What a gentleman. From one of the finest families in the Midwest. Ah, sadly, all dead now.” — Meyer Wolfsheim

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[Gubbet]

Dhulo and mx never even met before 1970 lol, question is how does mx expect loyalty from dhulo who isn’t even loyal to darod like mj and og who live next door to them and have blood ties

They don’t share borders and there is less conflict between MX and Dh. Also, they are the two large clans that have been screwed by federalism. So they have that in common.

Still, I never understood why they supported farmajo so much when he did nothing for them.

This is correlation, not necessarily causation.

Do you know why Majerten has district in Somali Region but Dhulbahante and Marehan do not? Do you know that as late as "1980" we did have a border?

Marehan and Dhulbahante have been carbon copies of each other in every single major political event since written record. Every single one. It has nothing to do with this politically created nonsense called Federlism.

Your district of Bookh was designed to squeeze so definitively in-between Marehan and Dhulbahante all the way to "Warder" that you cut off their boundary. As late as the late 70's they used to meet at Gumburu to Tuulo Celi.

Also Dhulbahante and Marehan are the only two groups in the entire Hawd that have never clashed. 0. Marehan and even Habar Yoonis have clashed (the placed called Gabagabo is where Rigaax the HY leader was put down; Gabagabo Rigaax locality of Marehan country in Galaadi district). But never Dhulbahante in recorded history. Even today Dhulbahante will come for "naq" all the way straight to Cilaanle and Buuro Mareexaan than go southeast to Bookh and Galaadi.

War nimanka walaalaheen ah godob xun bay idin ka tirsanayaan wallahi Majeerteenoow!

[MrSinister]

Dhulo and mx never even met before 1970 lol, question is how does mx expect loyalty from dhulo who isn’t even loyal to darod like mj and og who live next door to them and have blood ties

They don’t share borders and there is less conflict between MX and Dh. Also, they are the two large clans that have been screwed by federalism. So they have that in common.

Still, I never understood why they supported farmajo so much when he did nothing for them.

This is correlation, not necessarily causation.

Do you know why Majerten has district in Somali Region but Dhulbahante and Marehan do not? Do you know that as late as "1980" we did have a border?

Marehan and Dhulbahante have been carbon copies of each other in every single major political event since written record. Every single one. It has nothing to do with this politically created nonsense called Federlism.

Your district of Bookh was designed to squeeze so definitively in-between Marehan and Dhulbahante all the way to "Warder" that you cut off their boundary. As late as the late 70's they used to meet at Gumburu to Tuulo Celi.

Also Dhulbahante and Marehan are the only two groups in the entire Hawd that have never clashed. 0. Marehan and even Habar Yoonis have clashed (the placed called Gabagabo is where Rigaax the HY leader was put down; Gabagabo Rigaax locality of Marehan country in Galaadi district). But never Dhulbahante in recorded history. Even today Dhulbahante will come for "naq" all the way straight to Cilaanle and Buuro Mareexaan than go southeast to Bookh and Galaadi.

War nimanka walaalaheen ah godob xun bay idin ka tirsanayaan wallahi Majeerteenoow!

They haven’t clashed because they don’t have land disputes and don’t see each other in large numbers . Simple as that. For example, Majerteen and Dhulabahante have good relations in waamo as there is less conflict between the two brotherly clans there.

By the way, nothing wrong with marexan and dhulbahante having good relations. But if I’m dhulbahante, I have to ask myself what did supporting farmajo for 4 years get me. The answer is nothing substantial. He did more for galnus than sool

[mahoka]

Dhulbahante are somalilanders and they are linked to no one but Isaaq. Their stake of kismayo Will be more than doubled once we resolve our current issues. An entire Navy unit will be dedicated for their service. I encourage Od to Claims as much land as possible in kismayo. That enclave belongs to us

Dhulbahante is not linked to isaaq, they are darod and linked to their own tribe. You say they are linked because you are hj with blood ties to them

Of course they are more closer to me than you , i only learned about your clan recently , I actually don't know you. The only thing that unites me and you is our goal. Which we are both determined , well atleast from my side . If we achieve our goal I Will always be their side. I am not the type of guy you expect to slaughter his neighbours. I would rather kill you if you try to harm them. You may ask why ? Well no matter what ever happens we Will always be Jaar , markaa maxaa godob luqunta ii sudhaya. Waa la noolaan doonaa !

Don’t worry, we know you won’t lift a finger against your abtiyaal and awoowayaal lol

[mahoka]

They don’t share borders and there is less conflict between MX and Dh. Also, they are the two large clans that have been screwed by federalism. So they have that in common.

Still, I never understood why they supported farmajo so much when he did nothing for them.

This is correlation, not necessarily causation.

Do you know why Majerten has district in Somali Region but Dhulbahante and Marehan do not? Do you know that as late as "1980" we did have a border?

Marehan and Dhulbahante have been carbon copies of each other in every single major political event since written record. Every single one. It has nothing to do with this politically created nonsense called Federlism.

Your district of Bookh was designed to squeeze so definitively in-between Marehan and Dhulbahante all the way to "Warder" that you cut off their boundary. As late as the late 70's they used to meet at Gumburu to Tuulo Celi.

Also Dhulbahante and Marehan are the only two groups in the entire Hawd that have never clashed. 0. Marehan and even Habar Yoonis have clashed (the placed called Gabagabo is where Rigaax the HY leader was put down; Gabagabo Rigaax locality of Marehan country in Galaadi district). But never Dhulbahante in recorded history. Even today Dhulbahante will come for "naq" all the way straight to Cilaanle and Buuro Mareexaan than go southeast to Bookh and Galaadi.

War nimanka walaalaheen ah godob xun bay idin ka tirsanayaan wallahi Majeerteenoow!

By the way, nothing wrong with marexan and dhulbahante having good relations. But if I’m dhulbahante, I have to ask myself what did supporting farmajo for 4 years get me. The answer is nothing substantial. He did more for galnus than sool

Can’t blame farmaajo for this, sool is a shared region and if he was to do something special for only the dhulo of sool but nothing for hy, fiqishni and hj communities of sool he would be exposed as an open tribalist and his political career would end.

Best solution is for Somaliland to give up the darod regions in east sool and sanaag in exchange for aqoonsi from Somalia. Win win situation and also hit a double whammy for hawiye taxpayer who will be forced to sponsor the region.

[theyuusuf143]

Dhulbahante is not linked to isaaq, they are darod and linked to their own tribe. You say they are linked because you are hj with blood ties to them

Of course they are more closer to me than you , i only learned about your clan recently , I actually don't know you. The only thing that unites me and you is our goal. Which we are both determined , well atleast from my side . If we achieve our goal I Will always be their side. I am not the type of guy you expect to slaughter his neighbours. I would rather kill you if you try to harm them. You may ask why ? Well no matter what ever happens we Will always be Jaar , markaa maxaa godob luqunta ii sudhaya. Waa la noolaan doonaa !

Don’t worry, we know you won’t lift a finger against your abtiyaal and awoowayaal lol

Well at least you know where I stand indr . Next time markad Ku tashataan dabar goynta dhulbahante don't trust me. In reality adaan Ku dabar goynaya iyo wixii kula socdaba. Take this seriously . And respect my sphere of influence.

[original dervish]

We are still in Bokh and all the way to Wardheer.

I have stood at the Darwiish burial ground at Jidbale...where Cornfield and his forces were slaughtered. Thousands of Darwiish muhajideen were martyred that day most of them were Marehan.⁹

[Gubbet]

They don’t share borders and there is less conflict between MX and Dh. Also, they are the two large clans that have been screwed by federalism. So they have that in common.

Still, I never understood why they supported farmajo so much when he did nothing for them.

This is correlation, not necessarily causation.

Do you know why Majerten has district in Somali Region but Dhulbahante and Marehan do not? Do you know that as late as "1980" we did have a border?

Marehan and Dhulbahante have been carbon copies of each other in every single major political event since written record. Every single one. It has nothing to do with this politically created nonsense called Federlism.

Your district of Bookh was designed to squeeze so definitively in-between Marehan and Dhulbahante all the way to "Warder" that you cut off their boundary. As late as the late 70's they used to meet at Gumburu to Tuulo Celi.

Also Dhulbahante and Marehan are the only two groups in the entire Hawd that have never clashed. 0. Marehan and even Habar Yoonis have clashed (the placed called Gabagabo is where Rigaax the HY leader was put down; Gabagabo Rigaax locality of Marehan country in Galaadi district). But never Dhulbahante in recorded history. Even today Dhulbahante will come for "naq" all the way straight to Cilaanle and Buuro Mareexaan than go southeast to Bookh and Galaadi.

War nimanka walaalaheen ah godob xun bay idin ka tirsanayaan wallahi Majeerteenoow!

They haven’t clashed because they don’t have land disputes and don’t see each other in large numbers . Simple as that. For example, Majerteen and Dhulabahante have good relations in waamo as there is less conflict between the two brotherly clans there.

By the way, nothing wrong with marexan and dhulbahante having good relations. But if I’m dhulbahante, I have to ask myself what did supporting farmajo for 4 years get me. The answer is nothing substantial. He did more for galnus than sool

You and I have a long border. From Goldagob to Dhudub to Galaadi to Gacan Mirefaretaag to Buur Cagaarwayn to Wardeer.

We have an unusually intimate boundary from the Somali border cutting straight west through Galaadi district. We mix freely.

We never claimed any land of yours. We have never transgressed against you. In fact the "only" major clash or even noteworthy political conflict we have had with you was the land dispute you created out of thin air concerning Yamaarugley---universally recognized Marehan wells (even by you) throughout all memorable and recorded history.

The only time we ever fought or clashed or had a serious problem in a long melting boundary in Galaadi and Warder was transgression from you to us.

With Dhulbahante, forget what you have done in Bookh, but you built, literally and consequentially, "baraago" in SOOL.

Forget what you could do to help or alleviate the tremendously sensitive political problems facing Dhullo, as someone who is a neighbor, kin, and even politically implicated through the "Harti" family union espoused by the creation of Puntland---but you "encroached" (let's not mince words) on them in this circumstance and time even IN SOOL.

You are surrounded on almost 2 1/2 sides by water. 1 1/2 sides you are bordering Harti Darod. 1/2 of a side you face Sacad that had directed most of his nonsense west to tagteam Wagardhac with Saleebaan.

You in that seriously privileged situation and eating very well, if I must add, built BARAAGO IN SOOL.

For Dhulbahante and their situation, but I can tell you, as Marehan, that is unforgivable to me.

And if you and I with the degree of negative socio-politico history between us sharing such a vulnerable long melting point with the level of armaments and quickness to shoot that I am carrying as a result of being surrounded by enemies on every other side do not see any transgressions or land "disputes" or "encroachment," I would like to think we certainly would not have, ever, have attempted to build "baraago" in Sool.

Even if Puntland couldn't stop you, where were the elders and social luminaries to say "ah, stop---waxaan tolnimo maaha, ehelnimo maaha."

Ar ninyaho Dhullo gar bay leeyihiin wallahul cadiim? Waxba miidnaan u hambayn ragaas!

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Marriage will only bring humiliation to you. The Muslim world hates because you’re in an authority of power. Hence they are changing their allegiance to me. Irony is we not the ones hating on Rwanda. You are. The East Coast tells you the truth. Deal with me. Youre psychological burdens from America isn’t my burden. Your EAC partner. Same with Uganda. Why should I wanna carry Kipling’s burden. When we’re left in the first place. We hate you. That’s why I knew your war secrets

[noer]

This is correlation, not necessarily causation.

Do you know why Majerten has district in Somali Region but Dhulbahante and Marehan do not? Do you know that as late as "1980" we did have a border?

Marehan and Dhulbahante have been carbon copies of each other in every single major political event since written record. Every single one. It has nothing to do with this politically created nonsense called Federlism.

Your district of Bookh was designed to squeeze so definitively in-between Marehan and Dhulbahante all the way to "Warder" that you cut off their boundary. As late as the late 70's they used to meet at Gumburu to Tuulo Celi.

Also Dhulbahante and Marehan are the only two groups in the entire Hawd that have never clashed. 0. Marehan and even Habar Yoonis have clashed (the placed called Gabagabo is where Rigaax the HY leader was put down; Gabagabo Rigaax locality of Marehan country in Galaadi district). But never Dhulbahante in recorded history. Even today Dhulbahante will come for "naq" all the way straight to Cilaanle and Buuro Mareexaan than go southeast to Bookh and Galaadi.

War nimanka walaalaheen ah godob xun bay idin ka tirsanayaan wallahi Majeerteenoow!

By the way, nothing wrong with marexan and dhulbahante having good relations. But if I’m dhulbahante, I have to ask myself what did supporting farmajo for 4 years get me. The answer is nothing substantial. He did more for galnus than sool

Can’t blame farmaajo for this, sool is a shared region and if he was to do something special for only the dhulo of sool but nothing for hy, fiqishni and hj communities of sool he would be exposed as an open tribalist and his political career would end.

Best solution is for Somaliland to give up the darod regions in east sool and sanaag in exchange for aqoonsi from Somalia. Win win situation and also hit a double whammy for hawiye taxpayer who will be forced to sponsor the region.

dude. borders are not the issue. ur assumption is that magertenland thinking represents the rest of ex italian colony.

if i'm marehan, rahanweyn, or hawiya. i don't give f**k about letting puntland annex ssc. if i'm hawiya, i ask ask idoor about dir lands in awdal before wasakhgali n dolvahanta. rahanweyn don't know the difference between any of our tribes. marehan. probably care more about maintaining strategic locations like berbera before the talk about tearing ssc from somaliland as precondition for recognition

no border changes. besides. ssc would weaken the ex italian colony. hypothetically. a marehan or hawiya president would impose magertenland on ssc. wae more war. n terrorism

[Murax]

Mr Sinister,

Come on bro. Not everyone who supported Farmaajo did so because their tribe ‘gained something’. Gaal Dil Gartiiisa Sii. Farmaajo may be history, and may never come back however many respected the fact that he was one of the few who came to Villa Somalia and not obsessed with Boob.

[eliteSomali]

nonsense!
farmajo proved it when he refused to extend the slightest of help to reer ssc.
dhulbahante's support for him and his community si aad u foolxun bay ogu hungoobeen. If their garads and leaders are smart, they'll learn from that mistake and focus their energy on no one else in the future but themselves. I am sure someone like @OD would agree.

[mahoka]

Mr Sinister,

Come on bro. Not everyone who supported Farmaajo did so because their tribe ‘gained something’. Gaal Dil Gartiiisa Sii. Farmaajo may be history, and may never come back however many respected the fact that he was one of the few who came to Villa Somalia and not obsessed with Boob.

But dhulo supported farmaajo due to qabyaalad, he used them and left them (other than few social media payees)

[mahoka]

nonsense!
farmajo proved it when he refused to extend the slightest of help to reer ssc.
dhulbahante's support for him and his community si aad u foolxun bay ogu hungoobeen. If their garads and leaders are smart, they'll learn from that mistake and focus their energy on no one else in the future but themselves. I am sure someone like @OD would agree.

Yep, you summed it up pretty well.