Original dervish so gal

[theyuusuf143]

Yusuf, whenever I find myself getting a strong reaction to something---I always ask myself, "am I entitled to this reaction?"

You are not "Dhulbahante," the clan among the clans of former British Somaliland implicated in the "entitlement" to Laas Caanood as a social group.

And nor are you "the" Somaliland government uniquely implicated even in comparison to say---two Habar Awal guys who are Sacad Muuse and even Jibril Abokor like present authority figure Muuse Biixi.

Whatever you feel is misplaced and in my opinion is inevitably why we tend to create our worst nightmares.

By that I mean if your strength of emotions is betrayed by alleged insecurity/concern regarding Habar Jeclo facing unique liabilities---perhaps such liabilities, if they even exist, would not be relevant if you would not now entitle yourself to a greater share of the grievous acts.

Essentially you are right now being your own self-fulfilling prophecy---so maybe pause and recalibrate?

Give that advice to your mareexaan. I own Half Of SST , dhulbahante is in direct threat to my interest. And Somaliland government is my project, my tool I am gonna use it for what ever I want . For your information our president is not even jibriil abokor. So take that shit to somewhere else .

[Khalid Ali]

the yusuuf i am on this one with mahoka ,, why on earth would u need hawiye to fight a small qurjille clan


OD ur interest are with Somaliland i tell you this , its not a secret there is nothing for u in xamar and there is nothing the bunker president culusow can do for u really.. or majeerteenia ur natural northerner there is no need to act as a gharib the situation of laascanood will be dealt with , the issue now is all about de ascalating the situation

Dhulbahante doesn't need culusow nor biixi. They can standalone by themselves.

What have they gained from being controlled by isaaq?

who said isaaq has to control them they are equal partners of a country they are a member of so if the president of Somaliland becomes dhulbahante does that mean that dhulbahante controlls isaaq when ina rayaale was president was gadabuuursi controlling isaaq and dhulbahante

laascanood is in a better situation today then it was during the puntland dayss have us een how the city has grwon roads are being build
they are the only region in SL they get 2 percent extra from the state covvers

[Khalid Ali]

the yusuuf i am on this one with mahoka ,, why on earth would u need hawiye to fight a small qurjille clan


OD ur interest are with Somaliland i tell you this , its not a secret there is nothing for u in xamar and there is nothing the bunker president culusow can do for u really.. or majeerteenia ur natural northerner there is no need to act as a gharib the situation of laascanood will be dealt with , the issue now is all about de ascalating the situation

May be I am in the wrong battle , may be I should kill you first. Why you guys always pretend like you don't give a shit . A bunch of crying woman just kicked us out of laascaanood , and you still think we are in control. I clearly made my points that hawiye should not recognise khaatumo and give give financial or military support to them , because I own half the land they claim . And I am somali too I have the constitutional rights to block their claim.

Forget about dhulbahante under somaliland , it doesn't work any more , just do me a favour and destroy garowe before you return to hargeisa. I would say destroy both garowe and Lasanod , but I spare LA for moral reasons . Doqoniimada ugu xun waa inagoo meeshaas sida lo,o dibadeedka uga soo baxna inagoon majeerteen Ka jarin dunuubtoda.

Somaliland is still in control wixi ka baxaya magaalada galaya all exist Somaliland troops are stationed they just pulled out for de escalating things , what can they do let these small militia run out iyaga daali. they need us saaxib. laascanood is a landlocked town wixi so gaadha berbera looga keena, why would i want to destroy garowe what has garowe done to me

hawiyahan aad miciin badysiid isagi ba amism haysata iyo shabaab bal muxu baas eeh ku qaban kara horta daciifsanida hawiyahan maxay yihin aad ka sheekeneysa wa niman gacacsada oo dunida dawarsada oo magaca somalia isticmaala iyago hoggog ugaandhees lugu ilaaliyo

[Gubbet]

Yusuf-

What is he? In ny estimation, every Sacad Muuse but Cumar Carte's Rer Hargeisa jilib and Makaahiil are Jibril Abokor. If you count the small Reer Liibaan, all but those 3 are JB in my head.

Also, I do give that advice to my own. Speaking of my own----let this be a clear warning. Whatever you can dream or imagine you can do to Dhulbahante in your sweetest vainglory---won't come within a daylight what the Irir hordes did against the lone Marehan surrounded by or having a border with 2/3 of Somali diversity.

From Nageyle to Goldogob, we are having the last laugh and from each one of our antagonists, caanahay islahaayeen ufadhiista oo ka dhan, tacsi iyo dhiigooda dhadhankiisa ayaa udanbaysay.

Kansarka inaad ka hortagtid (prevention) wax dhaama heli maysid. Kansar ha beerin. Waa tallo.

[Khalid Ali]

Cumar carte qaalib is sacad muse hussien abokor nuux ismaciil

Jibriel abokor is a stand alone clan brother of hussein abokor for example

for example cumar carte abtiirsin would go like this

Yusuuf
gadadiid
Yoonis
nuux
Issmaciil
Jibriell
Xussein
Abokor

And Muuse biixi is
Bahmuslimo
Guleed
samatar
cabdalle
siciid
ismaciil
Jibriel
Xussein Abokor



Jibriel Abokor is then a differen branch
brother of Hussein Abokor found in
arabsiyo gabiley
and Jabuuti

jirbiel abokor
is hasan
umar
bahabar adam
Jibriel
Abokor


Reer libaan are above branch
Makhil to


Makahil isaaq sacad weye
abokor isaaq sacad
so makahil is the uncle of Jibriel abokor and hussein abokor

[Gubbet]

the yusuuf i am on this one with mahoka ,, why on earth would u need hawiye to fight a small qurjille clan


OD ur interest are with Somaliland i tell you this , its not a secret there is nothing for u in xamar and there is nothing the bunker president culusow can do for u really.. or majeerteenia ur natural northerner there is no need to act as a gharib the situation of laascanood will be dealt with , the issue now is all about de ascalating the situation

May be I am in the wrong battle , may be I should kill you first. Why you guys always pretend like you don't give a shit . A bunch of crying woman just kicked us out of laascaanood , and you still think we are in control. I clearly made my points that hawiye should not recognise khaatumo and give give financial or military support to them , because I own half the land they claim . And I am somali too I have the constitutional rights to block their claim.

Forget about dhulbahante under somaliland , it doesn't work any more , just do me a favour and destroy garowe before you return to hargeisa. I would say destroy both garowe and Lasanod , but I spare LA for moral reasons . Doqoniimada ugu xun waa inagoo meeshaas sida lo,o dibadeedka uga soo baxna inagoon majeerteen Ka jarin dunuubtoda.

Somaliland is still in control wixi ka baxaya magaalada galaya all exist Somaliland troops are stationed they just pulled out for de escalating things , what can they do let these small militia run out iyaga daali. they need us saaxib. laascanood is a landlocked town wixi so gaadha berbera looga keena, why would i want to destroy garowe what has garowe done to me

hawiyahan aad miciin badysiid isagi ba amism haysata iyo shabaab bal muxu baas eeh ku qaban kara horta daciifsanida hawiyahan maxay yihin aad ka sheekeneysa wa niman gacacsada oo dunida dawarsada oo magaca somalia isticmaala iyago hoggog ugaandhees lugu ilaaliyo

Anigu shaqsiyan horta waan jeclaan lahaa Dhulbahante iyo Isaaq inay heshiis yihiin oo nabad iyo is dhexgal ka dhex shaqayso---waliba aan iraahdo Dhulbahante waxuu raali iyo maqsuud ku yahah heshiisku ku salaysantahay haday doonaan Somaliland ha ka mid ahaadaan ama haday doonaan SSC sida loo gartaba aad isku fasaxdaane.

Ka bacdi, shaqsiyan as Marehan waxaan jeclaan lahaa xiriirki inaga iyo Rer Hargeisa naga dhex beermay 10kii sano ee lasoo dhaafay in halkiisii lagasii ambaqaado. Run ahaanyi xiriir aad u wanaagsan ku salaysan ganacsi/trade baa mirahiisi la beerayey waliba si qarsoodi ah oo hoose madama labada shacab ba u bislaan oo waliba waxii hore ka dhex shanqaraysay.

Caabudwaaq is really a hub and a gateway for trade between Berbera and Somalia both center and south. And Marehan considers the professionalism and the business experience with Berbera and Isaaq as "pristine"...even Gedo prefers to use Berbera than Mogadishu wallahi.

Marka Isaaqoow, you are focking up your own business interests by this childish and neocolonial area nonsense about colonial boundary.

War South Sudan got independence without any appeal to former colonial boundary and nonsense. They simply said we are an ethnic community called Rer Madoow and we just don't want to share same country with Rer Iska Dhal

Simple.

Beesha Isaaq, wallahi I support your self -determination as Rer Isaaq if that is what you want as I support the self-determination of Rer Dhulbahante to contorl their affairs.

Waa iga tallo and let's get back to good relationship based on mutual business interest.

[theyuusuf143]

Khaalid they don't like you as a isaaq , but they won't refuse either if you are feeding them. Markaas somaliland ma UNHCR baa mise waa waardiye. Exit kay somaliland fadhida Ku lahaa. Man we became faqash for them. Exit kaad sheegaysa waa caabudla oo kale. Waxaynu waagaas samayn jirnay uunbay samayn. Kudhufoo Ka dhaqaaq.

Waxanoo mukura maxaad uga jeeda iyo garowe maxay igu samaysay. Miyaanay ahayn meesha Waxan oo dhanba laga soo abaabulay . Hadaynaan garowe duqayn weligeed chance kaasi dib inoo soo Mari maayo. Meesha colaadna kuma hayno oo waxba ma dilno , nabad na kuma hayno . Waa inaynu inaga dhexdiinu Ku heshiino wixii laga yeeli laha.

[Gubbet]

Cumar carte qaalib is sacad muse hussien abokor nuux ismaciil

Jibriel abokor is a stand alone clan brother of hussein abokor for example

for example cumar carte abtiirsin would go like this

Yusuuf
gadadiid
Yoonis
nuux
Issmaciil
Jibriell
Xussein
Abokor

And Muuse biixi is
Bahmuslimo
Guleed
samatar
cabdalle
siciid
ismaciil
Jibriel
Xussein Abokor



Jibriel Abokor is then a differen branch
brother of Hussein Abokor found in
arabsiyo gabiley
and Jabuuti

jirbiel abokor
is hasan
umar
bahabar adam
Jibriel
Abokor


Reer libaan are above branch
Makhil to


Makahil isaaq sacad weye
abokor isaaq sacad
so makahil is the uncle of Jibriel abokor and hussein abokor

Interesting so Rer Samatar is Hussein Abokor Wow I thought they were Jibril Abokor this whole time because Hussein Abokor are the original Sacad Muuse of Hargeisa and Rer Samatar are reer Hawd...Ciidagale gaashaanbuurta iyagu iyo Reer Liibaan so Reer Awaare maaha? That's why I thought he just be JB since they extend into Ethiopia. Good to know. Horta the Hussein Abokors they are really just polite, reer magaal people. Gacaan baan u taagay. Sacad Muusaha Rer Gebilay are the most tribalistic towards Reeraha Duriyada dhexdooda.

[Khalid Ali]

Yes reer samatar is Hussein Abokor nuux simaciil and sicid ismaciil are the main two branches of ismaciil jibriel hussei abokor
yes reer samatar extend from hargeisa ceelka xaraf all the wy to harshin harta sheikh down hawd

gaashaanbuur are my maternal uncles they are ciidagalle dhamal aadan reer buuraale they are the most presitge ciidagalle. cabdi gahayr ba ka dhashay and they are large to from hargeisa to aware
, reer libaan are reer hawd also reer baadiye and also poet
jibriel abokor extend into Ethiopia via wajaale all the way to north jigjiga , galbeedkana waxay ka si gallaan dhulka ciisaha iyo samaroonka ayaay afka ku hayaa

[Gubbet]

I am an honorary inductee into Sacad Muuse tribe membership.

Anu Somaliwayn dhexdood, Darood baan ahay. Darood dhexdood, Rer Diini baan ahay. Mareexaan dhexdiis, rer Siyaad Ugaas baan ahay.

Intaas ka sakowe, hadaan Hawiye si khaas ula joogo, Cayr, rer Ayaanle ayaan ka tirsanahay---Isaaqne, Sacad Muuse, JB ayaan ka tirsanahay. Labadaa qoloba rag i damiinta waan ku leeyahay, macaa Caaqil xaga Somaliland maamul ahaan

[Khalid Ali]

one mistake darood dhexdiis waxad tahay Marexaan or sade .. not reer diini

[Gubbet]

May sxb, Darood dhexdiis reer Diini baan ahay. Darood keligeen kolkaan nahay, war Reer Diini u hadal baa lay yiraahda cid kale uma hadli kartide, anigune ninka Cumar Maxmuud xata Reer Bicidyahan inuu u hadlo ama ninka Rer Abdulle oo Cawlyahan u hadlo ma oggoli.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Original whatever you guys decide make sure to not trust Puntland. And certainly don't trust NN. Nimankas yaney idinku awrkacsanin they had 5 years to do something about your situation. Don't believe their crocodile tears.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

It seems to me the issue in Laas caanod is purely based on Caadifad. What is Dhulbahante's objective? Will they join puntland or Khaatumo?

As a isaaq these CBB hate you the most , ignore Them and never give them one penny of you money . Even if xamse try you must refuse and give that money to the abgaal and xawaadle who defeated alshabaab.

This conflict is between us and daarod . And we gonna remove them from ceerigaabo. Just watch hanoo Kala eexan hadaadba cid u eexato anaga noo eexo baryana maaha xaq baynu isugu leenahay for hundred years ilaa maantanu hobyo xoraynay iyo Ilaa maantaad siyaad Naga gebagebayseen . Irir samaale ha noolaado

Sxb we are neutral in this conflict. Inshallah may peace prevail. We are focused on cleaning our house.

[original dervish]

^^much respect to you brah.

I think we all have a responsibility to not incite hatred and violence.

Khalid......there is absolutely no doubt financially we are far better off inside sl than in pl.
However, the recent massacres and atrocities have turned the people against sl.
Anybody advocating for sl in Lascaanood today would be hung from the nearest tree.
Somalis are a backward people whom are prone to extreme bouts of irrational violence.

Now sl will find it very difficult to justify their war of aggression on Dhulbahante.