Ogaden woke up to reer pl two faces

[eliteSomali]

^If that maqaarsaar PM hailed from PL, your tone would be quite different.

Also do I sense a hint of MJ supremacy there? It's like your expecting marehan and or ogaden to be loyal to you like they are your children.

Why?

Aren't they allowed to have these ambitions that you seem to have?

[BestP]

Let’s just say madobe didn’t deliver on his promises considering Deni saved him politically under farmajo. Without PL support, he would have been easily replaced by farmajo. He’s now working with the hutu government who wants a piece of JL port and wants JL to come under mogadisho.

I don't know about those promises between Deni and Madoobe even though Madobe is not seemingly honoring the friendship between the Kablalax brothers.Deni openly fought with Marehan and Farmajo just to save Madoobe. In any case, do you guys (Puntland) expected Madobe to cut ties with HSM because Puntland did so ?

Or you are simply unhappy to see Ogaden prime minister in Mogadishu ?


Up until now, Madobe has done no harm to Puntland unless you are smart enough to predict the forthcoming political events.

Madobe was double dealing. He is a snake and the biggest impediment to JL becoming a serious state.

What good is a maqaarsaar PM? It’s one thing to have an independent PM, but a personal assistant to Hassan dameer is useless.

When you side with a dictatorship Hutu government on major national issues such as federal state power and resources sharing, that does harm to Puntland and hence why PL used the clause under the constitution that gives it autonomy.

Ultimately, it’s good for PL and for reer PL to realize they have no allies in the south and Ogaden is no better than Marexaan.

Ahmed is looking for a political lifeline in Muqdisho.He's obviously contesting with Marehan in Villa Somalia.HSM and allies are smartly taking advantage of the situation. They are one time inviting anti-madobe Marehan to Villa while on other occasions they seem appeasing Madobe to kill any chance of Kablalax reunion. IOG is working closely with HSM in keeping Puntland and Jubaland apart.

Hawiye Turub baray


Btw, I support puntland's foresight in the federal level .They can singlehandedly sabotage rise of Hawiye dictatorship in Xamar.Deni is doing a good job.

[MrSinister]

I don't know about those promises between Deni and Madoobe even though Madobe is not seemingly honoring the friendship between the Kablalax brothers.Deni openly fought with Marehan and Farmajo just to save Madoobe. In any case, do you guys (Puntland) expected Madobe to cut ties with HSM because Puntland did so ?

Or you are simply unhappy to see Ogaden prime minister in Mogadishu ?


Up until now, Madobe has done no harm to Puntland unless you are smart enough to predict the forthcoming political events.

Madobe was double dealing. He is a snake and the biggest impediment to JL becoming a serious state.

What good is a maqaarsaar PM? It’s one thing to have an independent PM, but a personal assistant to Hassan dameer is useless.

When you side with a dictatorship Hutu government on major national issues such as federal state power and resources sharing, that does harm to Puntland and hence why PL used the clause under the constitution that gives it autonomy.

Ultimately, it’s good for PL and for reer PL to realize they have no allies in the south and Ogaden is no better than Marexaan.

Ahmed is looking for a political lifeline in Muqdisho.He's obviously contesting with Marehan in Villa Somalia.HSM and allies are smartly taking advantage of the situation. They are one time inviting anti-madobe Marehan to Villa while on other occasions they seem appeasing Madobe to kill any chance of Kablalax reunion. IOG is working closely with HSM in keeping Puntland and Jubaland apart.

Hawiye Turub baray


Btw, I support puntland's foresight in the federal level .They can singlehandedly sabotage rise of Hawiye dictatorship in Xamar.Deni is doing a good job.

Good that you see the game being played. IOG and foreigners are behind everything that is happening in Somalia.

HSM is using MX and OG against each other to keep both in line. Look at how gubbet was giddy like a school girl because hsm supposedly stopped Ogaden/madobe officials from coming to Gedo.

The only way JL becomes independent from mogadisho is if both ilkayar and Ogaden come to some mutually beneficial understanding/power sharing instead of playing zero sum games. A big step in achieving that is getting rid of Madobe. Ultimately he’s only interested in what serves him and not what is good for Ogaden or Jubbaland.

[Gubbet]

^If that maqaarsaar PM hailed from PL, your tone would be quite different.

Also do I sense a hint of MJ supremacy there? It's like your expecting marehan and or ogaden to be loyal to you like they are your children.

Why?

Aren't they allowed to have these ambitions that you seem to have?

Don't Marehan anything.

The last thing Majerten expects is Marehan to be "loyal" to Majerten.

It is the inverse..and there is no MR or MJ who would disagree.

You are alone in the implication of this discussion.

[Gubbet]

Madobe was double dealing. He is a snake and the biggest impediment to JL becoming a serious state.

What good is a maqaarsaar PM? It’s one thing to have an independent PM, but a personal assistant to Hassan dameer is useless.

When you side with a dictatorship Hutu government on major national issues such as federal state power and resources sharing, that does harm to Puntland and hence why PL used the clause under the constitution that gives it autonomy.

Ultimately, it’s good for PL and for reer PL to realize they have no allies in the south and Ogaden is no better than Marexaan.

Ahmed is looking for a political lifeline in Muqdisho.He's obviously contesting with Marehan in Villa Somalia.HSM and allies are smartly taking advantage of the situation. They are one time inviting anti-madobe Marehan to Villa while on other occasions they seem appeasing Madobe to kill any chance of Kablalax reunion. IOG is working closely with HSM in keeping Puntland and Jubaland apart.

Hawiye Turub baray


Btw, I support puntland's foresight in the federal level .They can singlehandedly sabotage rise of Hawiye dictatorship in Xamar.Deni is doing a good job.

Good that you see the game being played. IOG and foreigners are behind everything that is happening in Somalia.

HSM is using MX and OG against each other to keep both in line. Look at how gubbet was giddy like a school girl because hsm supposedly stopped Ogaden/madobe officials from coming to Gedo.

The only way JL becomes independent from mogadisho is if both ilkayar and Ogaden come to some mutually beneficial understanding/power sharing instead of playing zero sum games. A big step in achieving that is getting rid of Madobe. Ultimately he’s only interested in what serves him and not what is good for Ogaden or Jubbaland.

We aint friends in politics sxb. I identified your reactionarism as predicated in this reality.

You and Madoobe fan boys can gaslight each other all you want----but, between you as Majerten and I as Marehan, you are being dismissed based on superficiality.

Ku lahaa HSM is "using" Marehan and----no, YOU got used and Rer Marxuum is being used right now.

HSM and Hawiye for that matter never in history could use Marehan because to be 'used' is to sacrifice your position.

It looks like I FORCED HSM and Hawiye to subscribe to MY position against their will or desire going by how they threw in their cards with Madoobe and even named Marxuum Hamza followed by the 6 months of political war against Gedo Region.

You got used and discarded.

I held my own as enemy #1 and forced your user to get behind me about my affairs.

[Gubbet]

Look at how gubbet was giddy like a school girl because hsm supposedly stopped Ogaden/madobe officials from coming to Gedo.

This is why you are fundamentally reactionary in national politics. It is also why you had the last 6 months in Somalia. Essentially why you were betrayed by EVERYBODY you invested in---Madoobe, Kamboni-brigade, HSM, Rer Unukaa, etc.

And then manipulatively are still only concerned with being reactionarily obsessed with Marehan--the same group targeted by you which caused you TO EVEN MAKE THE HORRIBLE, DEGRADED INVESTMENT CHOICES YOU EVEN MADE.

It is called an "authenticity gap."

[MrSinister]

Look at how gubbet was giddy like a school girl because hsm supposedly stopped Ogaden/madobe officials from coming to Gedo.

This is why you are fundamentally reactionary in national politics. It is also why you had the last 6 months in Somalia. Essentially why you were betrayed by EVERYBODY you invested in---Madoobe, Kamboni-brigade, HSM, Rer Unukaa, etc.

And then manipulatively are still only concerned with being reactionarily obsessed with Marehan--the same group targeted by you which caused you TO EVEN MAKE THE HORRIBLE, DEGREDED INVESTMENT CHOICES YOU EVEN MADE.

It is called an "authenticity gap."

You don’t represent the views of all marehan and neither do I represent the views of PL.

At the end of the day, I would rather be an MJ who has autonomy and a state than be in your situation. You’re a very emotional and delusional person sxb

[Gubbet]

Look at how gubbet was giddy like a school girl because hsm supposedly stopped Ogaden/madobe officials from coming to Gedo.

This is why you are fundamentally reactionary in national politics. It is also why you had the last 6 months in Somalia. Essentially why you were betrayed by EVERYBODY you invested in---Madoobe, Kamboni-brigade, HSM, Rer Unukaa, etc.

And then manipulatively are still only concerned with being reactionarily obsessed with Marehan--the same group targeted by you which caused you TO EVEN MAKE THE HORRIBLE, DEGREDED INVESTMENT CHOICES YOU EVEN MADE.

It is called an "authenticity gap."

You don’t represent the views of all marehan and neither do I represent the views of PL.

At the end of the day, I would rather be an MJ who has autonomy and a state than be in your situation. You’re a very emotional and delusional person sxb

You are fake which I don't mind as that is entirely your prerogative---as long as you do not implicate Marehan in your fakeness sxb.

I can say that to your face while preemptively disqualifying your nonsense about me having Majerten "cugdad."

No, you have "Marehan-cugdad" and apparently it is still with supremacy in value because I think you could even stomach the narrative of being used by HSM as long as you still have ego vis-a-vis your reactionary Marehan obsession.

I will not be surprised if you guys either really focking love us or fundamentally internalize our worth more than even we do.

So let me tell you why;

You are the one who begrudges my equity. I don't begrudge your equity in Puntland.

You begrudge my equity, have wasted all number of resources and investments ridiculously in vain against me only to be used and discarded because maybe it is you who perhaps formed the resentment---

You are setting sun. I am rising sun.

Because Jubbaland IS my mandaqad; IS my maqaam. Madoobe and this nonsense is footnote; a placeholder whose very irrelevant existence is an unnaturally foreign Kenya Defense Forces subsidized futile effort against fate. I am with the population in Jubbaland. I am with the districts. I am with the cities. I am with the natural wealth both in what grows out of the land and what feeds on the land. Heck I am with the land. I am with the "rivers." I am even with the "borders."

I am ascendent.

You are the Soviet Union in the 1980's with the fragmentation fears to boot.

Take your Madoobe where the Sun doesn't shine and stick it up deep with Deni sxb.

Like I said before;

FOCK THE JL ADMIN. FOCK THEM. THEY ARE MY #1 PROBLEM. MY FOCKING PROBLEM WITH HSM WAS EVEN GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF US TO TAKE THEIR SIDE.

How about that for "authenticity?"

Now please, don't implicate our name in your machinations and you will be free from engagement by my person.

Go Darod.

[original dervish]

I hearby remove myself from the J/L side of the game.
Hopefully the main protagonists can resolve their differences and fulfill the potential of this blessed land.

[Ghiklo]

I hearby remove myself from the J/L side of the game.
Hopefully the main protagonists can resolve their differences and fulfill the potential of this blessed land.

We ain't leaving the Jubbas anytime soon, my friend

[original dervish]

I'm speaking only for myself .

[noer]

good on gubbet. seeing sinister's reactionarism. if kenya is out, metink marehan n ogaden can work together

sinister shalay wuhu didana farmajo oo iyo sami qaybsiga jubaland u marehan helo. imikana wa asaga didan hsm oo iska dhigayo sahibka marehan. you know tomorrow he gonna be against a marehan if they lead jubaland or they ex italian colony

solution. stop the stealth secessionists' extraterritorial interferences. kenya out. sna takeout al shabab after political reconciliation. whether it's farmajo or gurgurte, the ex italian colony's feds controling the borders wit kenya, somaliland, n ethiopia

tall order. i know. still. the most important parts are easy. no stealth secessionist interferences. no kenya in atmis. compromise n political reconciliation between in jubaland

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

I rather die than honor your family