Villa Somalia breaks silence on the LasAnod situation

[Sauron]

Can boons get this man, he's lost the plot haha

[FarhanYare]

xasan shiiq is a good guy. It was just yesterday when dhulbahante were chanting he is not our president farmajo is.

[FarhanYare]

Hawiye need to clearly stay the eff out of this. It is not our business. the two tribes ayaga arab isla eeh isna gursado isna luqad eeh

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Hawiye need to clearly stay the eff out of this. It is not our business. the two tribes ayaga arab isla eeh isna gursado isna luqad eeh

[original dervish]

Hsm has done all he really can by calling for peaceful dialogue. I can't see what else he can do.

Whichever side you take its clear to all who is the aggressor in this war.

Tyrant Bixi is attempting to strip away our right to self determination and oppress the people.

We will win in the end inshallah as Allah swt is not with the oppressors.

[Ghiklo]

Hawiye need to clearly stay the eff out of this. It is not our business. the two tribes ayaga arab isla eeh isna gursado isna luqad eeh

Ironically, more than 90% of Hawiyes share an ancient forefather with the Dhulbahante so no, this reflects badly on you as well. Proof: https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-Y18637/

The E-FT77328 samples come from YOUR own Hiiraab clan whilst the E-Y163928 samples are Daarood. Notice how they are related through E-Y18629. FYI, that shared common ancestor lived 2600 years ago.

On the other hand, the vast majority of Isaaqs carry T, especially this subclade: https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-BY182320/

You should be supporting your ancient cousins (Dhulbahante).

[OwQariib]

Villa sees officially Somaliland as one state in Somalia since 2012. Ali Khalif campaigned hard to dispute this but did not get backing from PL where the MPs are elected from today. That means the Dhulbahante are in their constitutional right to wave the Somalia flag. But it falls short on SSC, that is against the one state policy on SL.

[FarhanYare]

Hawiye need to clearly stay the eff out of this. It is not our business. the two tribes ayaga arab isla eeh isna gursado isna luqad eeh

Ironically, more than 90% of Hawiyes share an ancient forefather with the Dhulbahante so no, this reflects badly on you as well. Proof: https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-Y18637/

The E-FT77328 samples come from YOUR own Hiiraab clan whilst the E-Y163928 samples are Daarood. Notice how they are related through E-Y18629. FYI, that shared common ancestor lived 2600 years ago.

On the other hand, the vast majority of Isaaqs carry T, especially this subclade: https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-BY182320/

You should be supporting your ancient cousins (Dhulbahante).

Nope. I got DIR DNA

[Gubbet]

Villa sees officially Somaliland as one state in Somalia since 2012. Ali Khalif campaigned hard to dispute this but did not get backing from PL where the MPs are elected from today. That means the Dhulbahante are in their constitutional right to wave the Somalia flag. But it falls short on SSC, that is against the one state policy on SL.

That bullshit is over. You know what is actually "legal policy"---two full states to form a federal entity which precludes present Galmudug with half Mudug and half Gaalkacyo.

Puntland is still 2 full states without Mudug (Bari and Nugaal)---Galmudug isn't!

What you mean is it is against the status quo and status quo only reflects what things ARE not what things WILL be.

What's considered the status quo presently is not even protected by "legal binding." It is a reflection of the fact Las Anod was under occupation during 2011 Garowe I&II along with other parts of Somalia which were controlled by Shabab etc.

Basically the present status quo only reflects "participation" during Garowe principles which until now has never even be challenged on the basis of "legally binding" conformity/uniformity.

Standing in front of SSC with that superficial, made up, HAGist spoiler is the fastest way to destabilize the entire status quo.

What government established an agreed upon "One State" policy? Farmaajo who treated SSC distinctly as a separate entity with direct local ownership of their federal apportionment independent of BOTH Puntland & Somaliland???

As "participation" imcreases, the status quo will reflect because that is the ONLY thing underpinning it---nothing else especially legal binding.

SSC is the same size geographically and dispensationally more reflective of present Galmudug state than any other federal state as the ONLY "state" in breach of legal requirements justifying state existence.

There is going to be "1" (ONE) RULE for treating that situation.

Don't get it twisted just because this CHALLENGE has not yet officially been "prosecuted."

[original dervish]

It has been accepted by all Somali Govts that every clan has the right to self determination.

No clan has the right to force another clan to join their state. This can only happen by consensus.

The Dhulbahante elders have spoken with unanimity.
We are nothing to do with sl, secession and iidoor.

[OwQariib]

Villa sees officially Somaliland as one state in Somalia since 2012. Ali Khalif campaigned hard to dispute this but did not get backing from PL where the MPs are elected from today. That means the Dhulbahante are in their constitutional right to wave the Somalia flag. But it falls short on SSC, that is against the one state policy on SL.

That bullshit is over. You know what is actually "legal policy"---two full states to form a federal entity which precludes present Galmudug and half Mudug with ahalf Gaalkacyo.

What you mean is it is against the status quo and status quo only reflects what things ARE not what things WILL be.

What's considered the status quo presently is not even protected by "legal binding." It is a reflection of the fact Las Anod was under occupation during 2011 Garowe I&II along with other parts of Somalia which were controlled by Shabab etc.

Basically it reflects "participation" which until now has never wnd cannot even he established "legal binding."

As "participation" imcreases, the status quo will reflect because that is the ONLY thing underpinning it---nothing else especially legal binding.

SSC is the same size geographically and dispensationally more reflective of present Galmudug state than any other federal state as the ONLY "state" in breach of legal requirements justifying state existence.

Galmudug considered all Mudug as part of its state on paper though PL controls North Mudug it bypassed the Garowe shir and PL as the host of this milestone accord should have used these points in occasion to also support SSC. The constitution is provisional and subject to change so this is a status quo if i stand corrected.

[Gubbet]

Villa sees officially Somaliland as one state in Somalia since 2012. Ali Khalif campaigned hard to dispute this but did not get backing from PL where the MPs are elected from today. That means the Dhulbahante are in their constitutional right to wave the Somalia flag. But it falls short on SSC, that is against the one state policy on SL.

That bullshit is over. You know what is actually "legal policy"---two full states to form a federal entity which precludes present Galmudug and half Mudug with ahalf Gaalkacyo.

What you mean is it is against the status quo and status quo only reflects what things ARE not what things WILL be.

What's considered the status quo presently is not even protected by "legal binding." It is a reflection of the fact Las Anod was under occupation during 2011 Garowe I&II along with other parts of Somalia which were controlled by Shabab etc.

Basically it reflects "participation" which until now has never wnd cannot even he established "legal binding."

As "participation" imcreases, the status quo will reflect because that is the ONLY thing underpinning it---nothing else especially legal binding.

SSC is the same size geographically and dispensationally more reflective of present Galmudug state than any other federal state as the ONLY "state" in breach of legal requirements justifying state existence.

Galmudug considered all Mudug as part of its state on paper though PL controls North Mudug it bypassed the Garowe shir and PL as the host of this milestone accord should have used these points in occasion to also support SSC. The constitution is provisional and subject to change so this is a status quo if i stand corrected.

Fock what Galmudug "considers." Are you daft abti?

Is Goldagob implicated in Galmudug? Jariibaan? How about focking Garsoor neighborhood of NORTH GAALKACYO?

Once again...!

SSC is the same size geographically and dispensationally more reflective of present Galmudug state than any other federal state as the ONLY "state" in breach of legal requirements justifying state existence.

There is going to be "1" (ONE) RULE for treating that situation.

Don't get it twisted just because this CHALLENGE has not yet officially been "prosecuted."

[Ghiklo]

Hawiye need to clearly stay the eff out of this. It is not our business. the two tribes ayaga arab isla eeh isna gursado isna luqad eeh

Ironically, more than 90% of Hawiyes share an ancient forefather with the Dhulbahante so no, this reflects badly on you as well. Proof: https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-Y18637/

The E-FT77328 samples come from YOUR own Hiiraab clan whilst the E-Y163928 samples are Daarood. Notice how they are related through E-Y18629. FYI, that shared common ancestor lived 2600 years ago.

On the other hand, the vast majority of Isaaqs carry T, especially this subclade: https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-BY182320/

You should be supporting your ancient cousins (Dhulbahante).

Nope. I got DIR DNA

How do you have Dir DNA? Did you score haplogroup T-M70/T-L208 on 23andme? Most Hawiyes are E-V32 --> E-Y18629 --> E-Y18637. Those FT77328 samples I linked are Cayr and Abgaal...

Don't want to derail the thread so I'll leave now.

[Gubbet]

Heck even "Saaxo" of Wagardhac/Rer Gadiid or what is former "Gelinsoor" west of the highway is "Puntland" & will never be implicated in Galmudug.

This is SOUTH MUDUG.

And you are talking about North Mudug.

HAGists do not understand just the legal disruption which "Galmudug" is capable of creating if you ever even try to stand in front of SSC when the time comes to PROSECUTE her case as an independent federal state entity!

And let me tell you something the ONLY reason that was not part of the Las Anod declaration is hell will freeze over before they give Culusoow's Villa Ku Kaadi the opportunity, let alone dignity or power, to input a voice on the matter.

You represent an HAG perspective which is partisan and unshared.

That's not "Somalia Government."

There is a counter perspective and when it is in Villa Somalia, it will present her difference with YOUR perspective.

That is when the "challenge" will be "prosecuted."

You open your mouth and "Galmudug" will be shoved right in it abti!

[Khalid Ali]

Ssc does not exist first of all Cayn is not a region but a district of togdheer that is if we follow the 18 regions of the former Somali defunct republic oke. I don’t. Believe in it bal hadana aan ku raaco sharica bunkerka u yaala labba gobol iyo wixi ka badna. Then there is sool the dhulbahante live only in one district of sool exclusively and that is taleex. Xudun they share with sacad yoonis. Laascanood district they share with fiqishini and caynabo district is hy and hj. Fiqishini and isaaq are around 60 to 65 percent of the entire sool region. Now let’s say if we even give them laascanood district if they remove somaliland from the laascanood district which they cannot but hypothetically speaking if they manage to do that , then. What can we except then they have two districts under their control . And one third of a disricts since the buhoodle district is all habarjeclo with the exception of buhoodle town , habarjeclo lives in qorolugud balicalanle coodanle soojoogto and dhulbahante live only buhoodle and horurfadhi now how is buhoodle and horurfadhi sub districts of the buhoodle district and two districts of sool going to be two regions it’s not even one region it’s two districts and two sub towns in district it’s not gonne cut it even if we add warsangali into the equation the warsangali have one district in sanaag badhan district it would be three districts and two sub towns in a district not even a complete region so they fail to be a federal state. Hawaadle ba seperate federal state noqon laha if that was the case way ku qasban yihin to be part of hirshabelle sharci is sharci . Voltage wuxu leeyahay darood sharci ma qabto. Wa walaanyahay dhulbahante will for ever be under the somaliland republic there is no other alternative