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Somalis are failed man , The qadaadweyn should surrender to kenya , and we are joining to Ethiopia. That's the only way we can survive. Bye bye.
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What the fuck how the hell does that solve anything we will never join Ethiopia horta mad yara walaatay sxb
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Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:43 am What the fuck how the hell does that solve anything we will never join Ethiopia horta mad yara walaatay sxb
Laba option baynu haysana , inaynu gooni u taagnaana oo sidii goosarad timira soomalidu marba dhinac ina hudho. Ama inaynu noqono buur buur Ku tiirsan. Maanta dhulbahanta lagaa jaraya , berri habarjeclo baa lagaa goosanaya ama samaroon. Saa danbena hargeisa baa laguugu imanaya. Intaynu xoog leenahay dalka inta inoo hadhay Hala hoos geeyo Ethiopia. Danteena Ku jirta.
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Re: Somalia federal states and federal territories?

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OwQariib wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:18 pm Image

Australia has 6 states and 2 territories. The territories are lands of historical disputes or important lands that don't generate its own revenue and therefore require direct rule from the Central Government. It is a kind of safe autonomy from states and reinforces Government power at the same time. There should be a 3 degmo rule to apply for federal territory status, as the intention is to safeguard relatively infuential hostile clans from neighbouring states in order to allow cross regional development and avoid a Las Anod situation. Since the federal territory is based on districts and not connected regions it is not about finding loopholes to gain more federal territories, once you have enough districts they can all opt in for territory status while those who lead existing states can only lead their state but have the benefit of running semi autonomous states.

Some territories i have in mind

SSC Khaatumo - LA, Taleex, Xudun and Badhan

Awdal - Boorama, Zaylac, Lughaye

Qoraxsin - Beledweyne, Buulo Burde, Jalalaqsi, the southern Hiiraan clans of Ceel Cali can stay with their kin in Jowhar under statehood or join the more restricted territory status north of their river

Ximan Gedo - the MX districts of Gedo and Abudwak

Juba Jasiira - Jilib Marka and Jamaame of SK, GJ and Biimaal clans

Galxariir barwaaqo - Ceelbuur, Galhareeri and Dayniile. Yes we want our own vatican in Dayniile it already has an airport and private hospital. The rest of our areas in Xamar can benefit from staying under Benadir authority which can achieve statehood by an agreement on its maqaam.

@Gamechanger can you draw what this would look like in Somalia like the Australia map?
Yeah I agree it can occur allover the place for territorial conflict but here is the best map of things. Shabelle Hoose, Jilib, Jamamae, Half of Kismayo or Kismayo should be shared in 2 ways. My final divide on Kismayo is not fully finished along the demarcation line.

Digil iyo Mirfle will be given Bay, Baakool, parts of Jubba Dhexe and larger parts of Jubbada Hoose.

MX will be given Gedo, Parts of Jubba Dhexe and Parts of Jubbada hoose including Afmadow.

Whomever is of small minority found within or behind these lined up demarcation lines then they should have minority status within these lined up because we can't technically expect a tiny dot tribe behind a huge tribes territorial borders to all of sudden demand territories like Faqshini, or different Hawiye tribes of Gedo, Baakool and not to forget the same in Galgaduud with Mx IN Cabudqwaaq tough luck you are just a dot in an ocean of Hawiye you have to accept minority status in that regard nothing wrong with it in return these caught up behind your borders will also be given minority status.

Awdal will have it's own state by there own decision. Sool and Sanaag will be split half goes SL way where the other half goes Puntland's way. Lascaanood and Badhan can't stand on their own hence they will have to go over to their brethens of Puntland and join them.. Finito

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HAGites will technically be on the land of their ancestors for the last 1000 years since the Ibrahim Balcad Conquest of the Shabelle region. The Ajuran sultanate, Mogadishu Sultanate and Hiiraab Imamate boundries.. It will become a direct successor of these 3 empires and continuity

Insha-Allah in the near future it will require a visa to enter these territories and we will have to limit immigration. Reer Cabuudwaaq can gain citizenship in our territories but they will be the only ones because they are local. The Cad Cads who came as migrants centuries ago will also be given Citizenship. But none of these tribes who didn't took the journey with Ibrahim Balcad will ever gain citizenship meaning Samaroon, Issa and other northernly Samaales they have their own countries but they should be the only ones who can gain citizenship in our territories with minimum 5 years of stay an Issa, Samaroon and other northern samaales etc etc.
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Mareexaan is in final stages of negotiation with Ethiopia about 2 districts they are due; 1 in current "Doollo" zone and 1 in current "Korahe" zone following the same process that got them the creation of Deka Suftu district for them in Liban.

All this nonsense will be irrelevant especially to you.

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Gubbet wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:00 am Mareexaan is in final stages of negotiation with Ethiopia about 2 districts they are due; 1 in current "Doollo" zone and 1 in current "Korahe" zone following the same process that got them the creation of Deka Suftu district for them in Liban.

All this nonsense will be irrelevant especially to you.
Just stop it and step away from this. Cabuudwaaq is a dot and Ethiopia will never cede an inch to Somalia of their territories stop the day-dreaming. but nonetheless Cabuudwaaq will remain as always. But you have to come to terms with that Cabuudwaaq is an Island. There could be made claims inside Gedo and elsewhere for irrelevant Islands sub-sub-sub-sub tribes
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GameChanger wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:04 am
Gubbet wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:00 am Mareexaan is in final stages of negotiation with Ethiopia about 2 districts they are due; 1 in current "Doollo" zone and 1 in current "Korahe" zone following the same process that got them the creation of Deka Suftu district for them in Liban.

All this nonsense will be irrelevant especially to you.
Just stop it and step away from this. Cabuudwaaq is a dot and Ethiopia will never cede an inch to Somalia of their territories stop the day-dreaming. but nonetheless Cabuudwaaq will remain as always. But you have to come to terms with that Cabuudwaaq is an Island. There could be made claims inside Gedo and elsewhere for irrelevant Islands sub-sub-sub-sub tribes


You will cry and you will go through grief and then you will move on because you have to.
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Re: Somalia federal states and federal territories?

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Gubbet wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:06 am
GameChanger wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:04 am
Gubbet wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:00 am Mareexaan is in final stages of negotiation with Ethiopia about 2 districts they are due; 1 in current "Doollo" zone and 1 in current "Korahe" zone following the same process that got them the creation of Deka Suftu district for them in Liban.

All this nonsense will be irrelevant especially to you.
Just stop it and step away from this. Cabuudwaaq is a dot and Ethiopia will never cede an inch to Somalia of their territories stop the day-dreaming. but nonetheless Cabuudwaaq will remain as always. But you have to come to terms with that Cabuudwaaq is an Island. There could be made claims inside Gedo and elsewhere for irrelevant Islands sub-sub-sub-sub tribes


You will cry and you will go through grief and then you will move on because you have to.
:lol: :lol:

No sane Cabuudwaaqian is this dumb only you. Because they understand what an Island means they have even accepted to be within Galmudug. Where are they gonna go?

You are a nobody spammer... You will usually cry here. Also please stay off the internet because you are spamming this forum with ribberish I have noticed take it easy
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Re: Somalia federal states and federal territories?

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GameChanger wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:09 am
Gubbet wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:06 am
GameChanger wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:04 am

Just stop it and step away from this. Cabuudwaaq is a dot and Ethiopia will never cede an inch to Somalia of their territories stop the day-dreaming. but nonetheless Cabuudwaaq will remain as always. But you have to come to terms with that Cabuudwaaq is an Island. There could be made claims inside Gedo and elsewhere for irrelevant Islands sub-sub-sub-sub tribes


You will cry and you will go through grief and then you will move on because you have to.
:lol: :lol:

No sane Cabuudwaaqian is this dumb only you. Because they understand what an Island means they have even accepted to be within Galmudug. Where are they gonna go?

You are a nobody spammer... You will usually cry here. Also please stay off the internet because you are spamming this forum with ribberish I have noticed take it easy
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Re: Somalia federal states and federal territories?

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GameChanger wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:47 am
OwQariib wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:18 pm Image

Australia has 6 states and 2 territories. The territories are lands of historical disputes or important lands that don't generate its own revenue and therefore require direct rule from the Central Government. It is a kind of safe autonomy from states and reinforces Government power at the same time. There should be a 3 degmo rule to apply for federal territory status, as the intention is to safeguard relatively infuential hostile clans from neighbouring states in order to allow cross regional development and avoid a Las Anod situation. Since the federal territory is based on districts and not connected regions it is not about finding loopholes to gain more federal territories, once you have enough districts they can all opt in for territory status while those who lead existing states can only lead their state but have the benefit of running semi autonomous states.

Some territories i have in mind

SSC Khaatumo - LA, Taleex, Xudun and Badhan

Awdal - Boorama, Zaylac, Lughaye

Qoraxsin - Beledweyne, Buulo Burde, Jalalaqsi, the southern Hiiraan clans of Ceel Cali can stay with their kin in Jowhar under statehood or join the more restricted territory status north of their river

Ximan Gedo - the MX districts of Gedo and Abudwak

Juba Jasiira - Jilib Marka and Jamaame of SK, GJ and Biimaal clans

Galxariir barwaaqo - Ceelbuur, Galhareeri and Dayniile. Yes we want our own vatican in Dayniile it already has an airport and private hospital. The rest of our areas in Xamar can benefit from staying under Benadir authority which can achieve statehood by an agreement on its maqaam.

@Gamechanger can you draw what this would look like in Somalia like the Australia map?
Yeah I agree it can occur allover the place for territorial conflict but here is the best map of things. Shabelle Hoose, Jilib, Jamamae, Half of Kismayo or Kismayo should be shared in 2 ways. My final divide on Kismayo is not fully finished along the demarcation line.

Digil iyo Mirfle will be given Bay, Baakool, parts of Jubba Dhexe and larger parts of Jubbada Hoose.

MX will be given Gedo, Parts of Jubba Dhexe and Parts of Jubbada hoose including Afmadow.

Whomever is of small minority found within or behind these lined up demarcation lines then they should have minority status within these lined up because we can't technically expect a tiny dot tribe behind a huge tribes territorial borders to all of sudden demand territories like Faqshini, or different Hawiye tribes of Gedo, Baakool and not to forget the same in Galgaduud with Mx IN Cabudqwaaq tough luck you are just a dot in an ocean of Hawiye you have to accept minority status in that regard nothing wrong with it in return these caught up behind your borders will also be given minority status.

Awdal will have it's own state by there own decision. Sool and Sanaag will be split half goes SL way where the other half goes Puntland's way. Lascaanood and Badhan can't stand on their own hence they will have to go over to their brethens of Puntland and join them.. Finito

Image

HAGites will technically be on the land of their ancestors for the last 1000 years since the Ibrahim Balcad Conquest of the Shabelle region. The Ajuran sultanate, Mogadishu Sultanate and Hiiraab Imamate boundries.. It will become a direct successor of these 3 empires and continuity

Insha-Allah in the near future it will require a visa to enter these territories and we will have to limit immigration. Reer Cabuudwaaq can gain citizenship in our territories but they will be the only ones because they are local. The Cad Cads who came as migrants centuries ago will also be given Citizenship. But none of these tribes who didn't took the journey with Ibrahim Balcad will ever gain citizenship meaning Samaroon, Issa and other northernly Samaales they have their own countries but they should be the only ones who can gain citizenship in our territories with minimum 5 years of stay an Issa, Samaroon and other northern samaales etc etc.
my nigga gamechanger. u basically cosigned for that stealth cagderlander. ow qarib. pretty much shredded all the states of the ex italian colony. except magertenland :notsure: you expand plans into somaliland. giving them land that bin under somaliland control. giving them al shababland ISIL land in bari. i get the stealth cagder. ow qarib. not sure wut ur point was
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