End of liyu dogs

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Re: End of liyu dogs

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Rebelxx222 wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:46 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:43 am
Rebelxx222 wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:36 am Cagjar’s plan is to integrate the Ogaden forces into the National military. That is a solid idea but it will take a long time to fully takeover the Ethiopian military. Ogadens have taken over the Kenyan military successfully and used it to their advantage. Imagine an Ogaden General and defense minister commanding the ENDF!! Integrating the entire Liyuu force is not possible because some will be needed to defend the long border with Bakool & Gedo region which is full of insecurity & terrorism.

Joining the ENDF is personal choice , no cagdheer is willing to fight constant war In other parties of Ethiopia, the cagdheers don't even speak the Amharic language , they are less educated and less integrated into other Ethiopian society. Irir Samaale will dominate the federal affairs.

You don’t need to fight wars to be a federal soldier. Most of the federal troops are stationed in the cities. In the Somali region majority of the federal troops are non Somalis, while the Liyuu force is Somali. Replacing the foreign Federal troops with Somalis in the Federal police & reserve is a major improvement. I welcome this move if it means that Somalis get to have a stokehold in the military and intelligence agencies of Ethiopia. By the way Ethiopia doesn’t even know what Irir Samaale is so stop hyperventilating kkkk

Man every inch of Ethiopia is a warzone. In fact our region is the most stable. Joining the ENDF is like signing your death warrant , you can be sent to any were burning. Religion , khat , alcohol are all banned in the military. Somalis don't like hard discipline. The money is also very small. Ahmed madobe pays double what abiy pay. Human life have no value in Ethiopia. Some times they can put you in the front line and if you try to retreat they kill you. It's really very tough life. Kudos to the cagdheer if they join the army and survive. :lol:
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Re: End of liyu dogs

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Stop the Jedi mind tricks sxb.
You will be seeing the Ogedens in uniform for the foreseeable future.

You don't have anything to worry about.....the days of inna Illey are long gone.

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Re: End of liyu dogs

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original dervish wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:13 pm Stop the Jedi mind tricks sxb.
You will be seeing the Ogedens in uniform for the foreseeable future.

You don't have anything to worry about.....the days of inna Illey are long gone.

:whoa:
Isaaqs do not forget and do not forgive , the reason I hated the liyuu dogs is because they killed my peaple in kaamac dubad for no reason. I absolutely don't mind ogaden taking mashaariic or filling all positions
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Re: End of liyu dogs

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original dervish wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:45 am
LeJusticier wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:05 am
original dervish wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:59 am I think a lot of folk are under the false illusions.
The Liyu police will no longer be a paramilitary force, and instead will be absorbed by federal and State structures.

On the ground you will still have a predominance of Ogaden security personnel. Only the insignia and chain of command will change.

If you wild dogs misbehave it will still be an Ogaden size 15 boot on your necks or an Ogaden AK rifle butt in your faces.

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Will be absorbed by federal and State structures means no more killing and burning villages.
I think the Liyu of inna Iley and today are totally different creatures.

All Somalis despised the former Liyu......today they're much more representative and less oppressive.
You are right the Ilay era was hell. However, Liyu are still bullies, for example if you have Ethiopian ID and not Amharic speaking person, Liyu would seize your papers and hamulate you. Most of the travelers feel comfortable with federal police.
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Re: End of liyu dogs

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LeJusticier wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:45 pm
original dervish wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:45 am
LeJusticier wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:05 am
Will be absorbed by federal and State structures means no more killing and burning villages.
I think the Liyu of inna Iley and today are totally different creatures.

All Somalis despised the former Liyu......today they're much more representative and less oppressive.
You are right the Ilay era was hell. However, Liyu are still bullies, for example if you have Ethiopian ID and not Amharic speaking person, Liyu would seize your papers and hamulate you. Most of the travelers feel comfortable with federal police.
I remember that Day they killed our peaple In jaamac dubad , June 2016 weliba early Ramadan bay ahayd , I was in hargeisa. It's the first day I have realised that faqash is not over yet. My blood boiled for isaaqnimo for the first time in my entire Life . Warya Daarood Ku markay dhahaan isaaqaw dad yar oo xanuunka wada dareemad tihiin wallaahi waa runtood. Bus Ka maqaaxida meel walba isaaqu waa kacsanayen , waxan xasuustaa nin ogaadena ah oo chef Ka ahaa hotelka aan degana. Baa xooga I dejiyey oo I yidhi waar waxan baan anaba kasoo cararnay. Qisooyin aan anfariiray buu iiga sheekeyey Hadadan baan number kiisa dib u eegay maxamed baa la odhan jiray.

At that time Only faysal Cali waraabe uunba dadkeena u hadlay , caaqil garxajis ahi wuxu yidhi anaga gardarnayn, hooyada liiskeedi was ma xusayo magaciisa , isla sanadkaas baan Ku biiray xisbiga faysal . Waxan xasuustaa berbera anoo jooga buu telephone kaygu iga lumay , faysal shaashaduu ii saarnan jiray , niman dhalinyaro ahba iga dabo qaatay , markay faysal arkeen waxay I moodeen ciidagale. Way arkayeen marku bahalku iga dhacay.

Anoo cadiir Ku fadhiya meel banaan bay ii yimaaden. Waxay igu yidhaahdeen suldaan telephone kaa lumanu kuu sidna. Anigu marka horeba telephone qaaliya ma gato , marku iga lumana kama werwero. Nimankii dhalinyarada ahaa waan hagaajiyey Lacag fiicana waan siiyey . Yagiiba yaabay markan u sheegay inaan habarjeclo ahay.
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Re: End of liyu dogs

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A lot of Darood elders, particularly Dhulbahante, condemned the massacre of HY reer badiye.

That was one of dozens of massacres carried out by the Liyu under Iley.

Incidentally, more Ogadens were killed by the Liyu police than all other clans combined.

It wasn't about tribe.....illey was working for the fascist tplf......that was how they governed Ethiopia.

Today's liyu are fighting and dying while protecting Somalis under siege from Canfar, Amhara and Oromo.
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