Dhulbahante and Isaaq

[Khalid Ali]

Dhulbahante isn’t going any where any time soon as right wing says their blood is polluted with Isaaq it’s impossible for there to be a border between habaryoonis Bari and dhulbahante or habarjeclo or dhulbahante as for the border between Somalia and somaliland is legit is almost 140 years old and is enshrined in the so called act of union the African Union charters and in the minds of alll Somalis the fact that dhulbahante couldn’t share a state with majeertenia is also evident to that

[original dervish]

Khalidow

[theyuusuf143]

We can sustain this conflict for a long time but Puntland cannot. The fighters are volunteers out for a bit of fun it cannot be sustained by getting poor islamos hagbad money.

I disagree with you , most fighters are paid by puntland , they are actually the regular forces of puntland , don't be fooled by Their fake covers , ciise maxamuud , siwaaqroon etc. Puntland did this to escape the international pressure , but they become too exposed so this policy is not working. Puntland is able to prolong the war too . This is why I don't see this war ending any time soon even if we defeat them.

We should provide ammunition to our frontline clans and let them invade the dhuloos territory . The heavier the war gets the better , real political solution must be reached. we should use the conflict as a laverage to seek our independence , and we must stick to one policy which can not be rejected by any sane mediator . Referendum. No referendum no peace.

[theyuusuf143]

Wa kaaf iyo kala dheeri and Isaq are finding out now DH can't be overwhelmed and forced to SL against their will, so the only option and wisdom would be them leave DH alone and see if they can carry on their project of SL without DH.

As a some one who agree with you that dhulmahante is gone for ever , I must let you know that Dir waqooyi is also gone for ever ( from Somalia) we are not leaving until you are meeting our demands.

[original dervish]

Most iidoors now accept Dhulbahante is gone forever.
It now begs the question, why are they staying and dying in huge numbers in Goojacaade?

The plan to hold Dhulbahante hostage in exchange for recognition by the hagites is farcical.

The hagites will simply tell you to hold Dhulbahante as long as you can.......your getting nothing other than federal state status.....like Galmudug.

[Gubbet]

Rule #1 in successful hostage taking/negotiation---

---DON'T PICK THE 'WRONG' HOSTAGE

[bashe19]

Dhulbahante isn’t going any where any time soon as right wing says their blood is polluted with Isaaq it’s impossible for there to be a border between habaryoonis Bari and dhulbahante or habarjeclo or dhulbahante as for the border between Somalia and somaliland is legit is almost 140 years old and is enshrined in the so called act of union the African Union charters and in the minds of alll Somalis the fact that dhulbahante couldn’t share a state with majeertenia is also evident to that

Khalid wlhi you are smartest Guy i have ever seen. Dhulbahante going no where, because they are blood brother with Idoor, but must have border that seperate from HARTI. Thank you bro

the Guy is smartest then enyone

[theyuusuf143]

Most iidoors now accept Dhulbahante is gone forever.
It now begs the question, why are they staying and dying in huge numbers in Goojacaade?

The plan to hold Dhulbahante hostage in exchange for recognition by the hagites is farcical.

The hagites will simply tell you to hold Dhulbahante as long as you can.......your getting nothing other than federal state status.....like Galmudug.

That's our plan , and we don't give a shit who dies in the process . Plus our clans are free to grab what ever They want. Your problem will stay the same or worse, Until our problem is addressed internationally. Earn your freedom.

Isaaqaw baxa hakaa saarto

[Khalid Ali]

I do actually agree with gubbet and od hawiye don’t care if we take. Qurjile with somaliland or with out it’s the same for them what difference does that make. Qurjiile makes only any different if we are negotiating with darood and I don’t even think darood will accept it had they been in the bunker because darood loves to xaasid isaaq they can’t in their mind see isaaq successful because even with out the qurjiile land they don’t love to see that no the land is ours and. We will not let an inch go of that land don’t believe the yusuuf that he wants to exchange that land for some sort of formality called recognition never the land is ours and willl be ours and that’s why we are dying for it

[original dervish]

You are dying for nothing because you will eventually be forced to withdraw.......of that there is no doubt.

The only thing you will gain from Goojacaade is death.
Your economy is collapsing and unemployment, inflation is skyrocketing.

[Gubbet]

Khalid, my point was if picking a 'hostage' pick someone you can hold 'hostage' with all its implications (weaker, harmless, helpless). Picking a 16 year old girl is a whole lot different than picking a black belt in Jujutsu who has family with means and political power.

Dhulbahante is neither weak, nor harmless, and as we have seem from Hiil Walaal definitely not helpless.

What can you negotiate if you no longer even have the 'hostage' having had them break the handcuffs, kick your ass, and subsequently have YOU then shut yourself inside a room (Goojacade) bunkered down peotecting yourself from the ex-'hostage'

Capo, 'you' are the 'hostage' now or are you not aware of this reality

[skywalker25]

It seems like people like Gubbet and OD use this forum is therapy. They post what they wish things would be like and not reality. It’s like sort of advertising their tribe/brand.

It’s like a guy fighting you for your house and him sitting on the alley way letting you keep the one room because he dies t want to damage the house. Somaliland is parked on the entrance of las anood, you have tried to relive them multiple times to no avail. The resident are all in refugee camps dying and the Ogaden have been defanged with the liyu polis being disbanded. But it’s okay make your movies in somslilnet.

[GameChanger]

Khalid, my point was if picking a 'hostage' pick someone you can hold 'hostage' with all its implications (weaker, harmless, helpless). Picking a 16 year old girl is a whole lot different than picking a black belt in Jujutsu who has family with means and political power.

Dhulbahante is neither weak, nor harmless, and as we have seem from Hiil Walaal definitely not helpless.

What can you negotiate if you no longer even have the 'hostage' having had them break the handcuffs, kick your ass, and subsequently have YOU then shut yourself inside a room (Goojacade) bunkered down peotecting yourself from the ex-'hostage'

Capo, 'you' are the 'hostage' now or are you not aware of this reality

This couldn't have been more upside down.. First of all they held that hostage for more then 15 years and besides still hold him hostage across Sool and Sanaag... The hostage is the one besieged in LA where is we gonna reach Burco and all of daroods gonna come against Idoors but they did come but the reality is that the Idoor has shown they can handle Daroods and can even capture PL..

The kid doesn't know Jiujutsu otherwise he wouldn't have been an idoor hostage to begin with. The hostage is the man who claimed we will drive them to Burco but still can't leave that city despite all Daroods reinforcements reaching him.

The truth is they suffered casualities in the days where they lost captives hence they lost appetite for launching further attacks on Goojacade.

PL and whomever came into the city have militarily conceded the superiority to the idoors and have lost all appetite for further fighting except for holding only Laascaanood. SL has not broken the ceasefire since they voluntarily exited the city and call for unilateral ceasefire but the SSC wanted to drive them back that is why fighting was resuming but after they lost appetite the calm has returned.

In my point of view SSC has lost this conflict even if they salvage LA. Besides the name itself says Sool, Sanaag and Cayn that is basically a red-line from an Idoor point of view? You gonna remove them from large cities xataa like Ceerigabo iyo Caynaba?

Hopefully we won't be hearing from darood bragging for the next 15 years atleast Habar Jeclo alone has karbashed your folks, Habar Jeclo is besieging Darood oo dhan... hadal dambe idiinma furna.. waa kuu faashilmateen meesha runti

[theyuusuf143]

Neither daarod nor dhulbahante can defeat the the somaliland military. And goojacade is ours, we simply created our own isaaq lascaanod beside the dhulbahante one, We will also take over the entire territory of jaamac siyaad and naaleye Ahmed if they don't cooperate with the military. Waar anagu rag badheedhsan oo dagaal Ku tashadaanu nahay. Ninkii wax iska celinayaw wax iska celi .

[Khalid Ali]

You are dying for nothing because you will eventually be forced to withdraw.......of that there is no doubt.

The only thing you will gain from Goojacaade is death.
Your economy is collapsing and unemployment, inflation is skyrocketing.

U do know we do not care for money and wealth and all of that all we care for us for our land and that is. It somethings we will let go ever nothing will stop us goojecadde and soool is ours and it is something very essential for us so who is going to make us withdraw u. No f-king way