HSM will not reach 5 years to finish this term; no way that happens. This superficiality will be abandoned before then.

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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 3:03 am
Gubbet wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 6:56 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:26 pm

Reee Muqdisho are all singing birmade Hassam Sheikh. The safety is top notch. Dadka wey nafiseen from NN wallahi. Qaraxa iyo ciyaal weero and tuugo waa laga nastay. That's the only thing that matters to me. Dhulkeena dhan waa liberated from AS. :blessed:
I am disappointed to see you still implicating why we are the most failed society on earth.

If you are the HSM supporter then why am I surprised that HSM is👇

1. His wretched factionalism & unforgivable divisiveness
2. His godawful "bad faith" and bad intention cravenness
3. The extraordinary moral/ethical shamelessness & rot
4. His revolting crookedness & hideous character deficiencies

To you HSM as "Somali President" is commendable as long as he is judged in opposition to me wearing dirty, tattered, sweat caked "street bandana," whose color is in reference to your 'turf/neighborhood ' (lineage).

Forget nationhood, civichood, and citizenship. Meanwhile during Farmaajo presidency who was from my clan, my concern for any threat, even if perceived regarding your shared rights to citizenship caused me to consistently speak up;
I could never imagine you showing this depth of appreciation for what this whole business of reconciliation substantively means.
Gubbet are you Okay? How are you seriously comparing Farmaajo's 5 years of internal political buuq where he labelled oppoisition Qaran diid and attacked them while letting Al Shabab grow by not fighting them to this 1 year admin of HSM who is busy fighting Shabab?

You are indirectly a Shabab enabler do you realize that? Swallow your pride and let us finish Al shabab..After phase 2 HSM can focus ok reconciliation etc.

Xamar is enjoying stability where gov officials nowadays drinks shaax in Bakaaraha that was unimaginable a year ago. My only priority is security and AS loosing controll. Anyone who tries to sabotage that is a AS enabler.
This is fake.

Everything about this 'show' is fake. Culusoow is fake. Your tone is fake. The pretend governance is fake. Fighting insecurity whether Shabaab, or your isbaaroliiste oppressing your own people, and even your subclan using machetes on only themselves like they are Hutu/Tutsi is fake.

Wallahi to me it seems like your group has a huge, serious issue that always affects the "inner city" urbanites in every society especially as we have seen with inner city US---they become seriously vulnerable to "cronyism."

You are literally the Somali version of inner city Detroit. :snoop:
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I also thank my old friend Sahal for teaching me even more than I was already aware regarding how far deep the 'gang warfare ' is within HSM's own inner circle. Nin aan AQALKIISA kala celin karin YUU kala celin :dwill:
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Gubbet wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 4:22 am
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 3:03 am
Gubbet wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 6:56 pm

I am disappointed to see you still implicating why we are the most failed society on earth.

If you are the HSM supporter then why am I surprised that HSM is👇

1. His wretched factionalism & unforgivable divisiveness
2. His godawful "bad faith" and bad intention cravenness
3. The extraordinary moral/ethical shamelessness & rot
4. His revolting crookedness & hideous character deficiencies

To you HSM as "Somali President" is commendable as long as he is judged in opposition to me wearing dirty, tattered, sweat caked "street bandana," whose color is in reference to your 'turf/neighborhood ' (lineage).

Forget nationhood, civichood, and citizenship. Meanwhile during Farmaajo presidency who was from my clan, my concern for any threat, even if perceived regarding your shared rights to citizenship caused me to consistently speak up;
I could never imagine you showing this depth of appreciation for what this whole business of reconciliation substantively means.
Gubbet are you Okay? How are you seriously comparing Farmaajo's 5 years of internal political buuq where he labelled oppoisition Qaran diid and attacked them while letting Al Shabab grow by not fighting them to this 1 year admin of HSM who is busy fighting Shabab?

You are indirectly a Shabab enabler do you realize that? Swallow your pride and let us finish Al shabab..After phase 2 HSM can focus ok reconciliation etc.

Xamar is enjoying stability where gov officials nowadays drinks shaax in Bakaaraha that was unimaginable a year ago. My only priority is security and AS loosing controll. Anyone who tries to sabotage that is a AS enabler.
This is fake.

Everything about this 'show' is fake. Culusoow is fake. Your tone is fake. The pretend governance is fake. Fighting insecurity whether Shabaab, or your isbaaroliiste oppressing your own people, and even your subclan using machetes on only themselves like they are Hutu/Tutsi is fake.

Wallahi to me it seems like your group has a huge, serious issue that always affects the "inner city" urbanites in every society especially as we have seen with inner city US---they become seriously vulnerable to "cronyism."

You are literally the Somali version of inner city Detroit. :snoop:

Masaajid Cali Guduud
Ruun nirgood
Hilowle Gaab
Wargaadhi
Aadan yabaal
Ceel Baraf
Maxaa Siciid
Nuur Dugle
Cad cadeey
Ceeldheer
Galcad
Masagawaay
Budbud
Xarardhere

The whole Middle Shabelle and Galgadud except Ceelbuur being under gov controll is not fake.

Military police making Xamar safe again is not fake.

Sahal hates Abgaal as much as he hates MX for breaking the gebtleman agreement. "Aryaa xow yahay janto kundishe agreement". It is sad to see a man in his 40s having beefs with young abgaals in a forum everyday and making daily multiple threads. If that is not inferiority complex ma ogi.
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Sahal, Mareexaan wuu ka gardaranyahay wuuna ogyahay. Anigane wuu iga gar daranyahay wuuna ogyahay. Mareexaan wuu ka gardaranyahay wuuna ogyhayooow cidiisa iyo MX deegaan isku ma haystaan, dhul isku ma haystaan, xil isku ma haystaan, xataa ood, ceel, daaq, iyo dirinba isku ma haystaan. Waligiis iyo allahiisne abaal ma uu noo gelin isagu waan u agalnay inkastoo ay dhibto ku tahay uuna damco inuu muhiimad la'aan ka dhigo. Xataa in that moment wuu garan la'yahay sow va abaal maaha, ilaahayoow may intaa la'ekaato mahadsanid keliya aan ka iraahdo. Xataa waxuu ao hadal qaado XL-Kablalax 'highway' uu leeyahay HG ku xumee runtii if you look at it closely, sal waxaa u ah wali cuqdadiisi MX. Oo walaaloow anigu maxaa Wacbuudhan iga galay, Wacayslaaba dan qaas ahaan iigaga dhawe. Maxaa ninkaan Darood kale ka galay, when MX is the most important Darod clan that could concern him waliba hadeey timaado Beled-Weyne waxa gala ama ka soo baxo. Marka ninkaan wuu ka gardaranyahay MX runtiina aniga xataa wuu iga gardaranyahay laakiin sababta uu naga gardaranyahay ayaaba cad daruufta keentay waayo both Ilkayar and myself with 'MX this and MX that' are hard to love! :? :lol: Marka gar wuu leeyahay ilaahay baa ina lehe laakiin waa doqonoow his relationship ultimately to MX (as well as myself) isaga ayeey ka go'daa wuuna diiday go'aankeeda. :ugeek:

Lakiin 500% waad ka gar daran tihiin. Abaal buu idin ku leeyahay khaas ahaan Reerkaaga Abgaal. Wuu idin xoreeyey, dhiig buu idiin daadshey, wuu idin taageeray---wallahi oo billahi oo tollahi wax la naco waad tihiin. Very rarely has a clan been so supportive and instrumental to everything that is important to another clan like Xawaadle has been to Hiraab in general and Abgaal in particular. War idinkiiyo Madaxdii Fed ag ka Hirahabellena ah baa sidii caruur saqiir ah Xawaadle xoog ka sugeyseen uu Shabellada Dhexe idiin xoreeyo isagiiyo afarta koonood Al Shabaab dagaal gaar ah ku hayso. Wallahi oo billahi oo tollahi waad ka gardarantihiin ANAANE KU LEH :ufdup:
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I use to warn Sahal that the " Gentleman's Agreement" was unsustainable, and that it would be advantageous for Hawadle to work with the other 15 clans of Hiiraan.

Hawadle were staking their political future on the disenfranchisement of Gugandhabe, along with Abgaal acquiescence. Anybody could see this was a flawed strategy.

That being said....Hawadle have proven they're able to fight AS and govern territory. They therefore deserve the title of preeminent clan in Beletweyne/ Hiiraan.

There should be a revised version of the " Gentleman's Agreement" , where Hawadle interests are respected , but not at the expense of the other Hiiraan clans.

Abgaal should work closely with Hawadle to secure the region from AS.......this must be the priority.
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Anigane waxaaba oran lahaa Xawaadle Gaaljecel ha ka ordin, Gugandhabe, Baadicade, Jiidle, Jajeelle, xataa Makanne ha ka ordin--ARUURSO, HOGAAMI. Hiiraan waa mandaqadaada giddi Reer Hiiraan isku wada duuboo suunka u noqon isku xira reer kaloo muhiimadaas u keh Hiiraan aan adigu ahayn ma jiree. Maxeey Hiraab daaqada iyo darbiga duleela kaaso geli. Dariishadana xiro duleel walboo darbiga ku yaalne alwaax iyo masaabiir ku garaac. Gaaljecel iyo Baadicadde inta laguu soo wadan lahaa, garbahaada ha noqdaan ilaa miiska wadahadalka baratan ka dhigtid adigiyo Hiraab.

We used to be like Hiiraan haatan iyo Xawaadle oo marna Dagoodiye marna Garre ayaa la noosoo mari jiray until we fixed our relationship with our near abroad oo Murule, Garre, iyo Degoodiyaba garbaheena noqden. Bal maanta inaga iyo Degoodi ha nals dhex galo waa la arkey Reer Mandheere garab iyo gaashaanka ay noo noqdeen kolkaan is haysane Uhuru Kenya.

Gentleman's Agreementigi saxda ah oo xataa la rabo should be between Xawaadle and his Hiiraan near abroad not with Abgaal. Yaaba Hirahabelle ku qabsan karo Xawaadle if Gaaljecel and Baadicadde are the ones u dagaalanamayo in Xawaadle talada Hirahabelle hayo oo dantooda ay ka dhex arkaan? No one baa ku qabsan karo!
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Gubbet stop waffling. And be careful of Using Wallahi like it's water.

1: Didn't XL have 2 presidents in Hirshabelle? Have you ever seen Abgaal opposing xawaadle. Not at all we worked closely with them. Guudlawe baa la doortay whom I personally loathe hade sharci ba jiro inuu mandate kissa dhamesto sow maha he still have another year to go. Sahal was expecting HSM to kick out Guudlawe and install XL president war waxaas xagee ka shaqeysaa? Almiino mey mooshin ka keenan Guudlawe using sharci? They can't because Xawaadle Reer HS oo dhan wa ku kacsan yihiin like GJ, baadicadde, Mudulood etc. They have no allies. Is that my fault? Aniga ma waxbaan XL uu diiday?

2: dhiig bu idin daadiyey ba tiriye Aadan Yabaal oo xadka hiiraan iyo MS ku taala ayeey kaalin yar ku leyahiine wuxuu anigu ii qabtay waa maxay?

3: wallahi o billahi o Tallahi Abgaal dad sii jeedo waaye HS wax maba uu arkaan Banadir ayaa uu daran. Hadana hadey xawaadle dorashada danbe ku guuleystan walle arki meysid Abgaal qeylinayo. Hore umay uu dhicin hada kedib na dhici meyso.
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Gubbet wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 3:13 pm Anigane waxaaba oran lahaa Xawaadle Gaaljecel ha ka ordin, Gugandhabe, Baadicade, Jiidle, Jajeelle, xataa Makanne ha ka ordin--ARUURSO, HOGAAMI. Hiiraan waa mandaqadaada giddi Reer Hiiraan isku wada duuboo suunka u noqon isku xira reer kaloo muhiimadaas u keh Hiiraan aan adigu ahayn ma jiree. Maxeey Hiraab daaqada iyo darbiga duleela kaaso geli. Dariishadana xiro duleel walboo darbiga ku yaalne alwaax iyo masaabiir ku garaac. Gaaljecel iyo Baadicadde inta laguu soo wadan lahaa, garbahaada ha noqdaan ilaa miiska wadahadalka baratan ka dhigtid adigiyo Hiraab.

We used to be like Hiiraan haatan iyo Xawaadle oo marna Dagoodiye marna Garre ayaa la noosoo mari jiray until we fixed our relationship with our near abroad oo Murule, Garre, iyo Degoodiyaba garbaheena noqden. Bal maanta inaga iyo Degoodi ha nals dhex galo waa la arkey Reer Mandheere garab iyo gaashaanka ay noo noqdeen kolkaan is haysane Uhuru Kenya.

Gentleman's Agreementigi saxda ah oo xataa la rabo should be between Xawaadle and his Hiiraan near abroad not with Abgaal. Yaaba Hirahabelle ku qabsan karo Xawaadle if Gaaljecel and Baadicadde are the ones u dagaalanamayo in Xawaadle talada Hirahabelle hayo oo dantooda ay ka dhex arkaan? No one baa ku qabsan karo!

I have been saying that for years man. They should make alliance with their neighbours and push a Hiiraanimo narrative. Hada laakin the average non xawaadle prefers Abgaal over XL.
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