I think HJ has the same size as Harti

[theyuusuf143]

Of all the snet iidoors, TheYusef is possibly the most rational.

He supports his clan's aggression against Dhulbahante, as long as the cost to his clan is limited.

TheYusef famously stated that the iidoor could remain in Goojacaade, shelling Lascaanood for years.

However, when confronted with the calamitous defeat inflicted upon his people at the historic battle of Goojacaade, TheYusef becomes pragmatic, suggesting the iidoor give up all designs on Dhulbahante land, and withdraw to their territory.

TheYusef is the kind of iidoor you can come to an agreement with. He has all the iidoor traits of Darood hatred, wickedness and bitterness. However, he is less emotional than his iidoor brethren.

Skywalker on the other hand will never accept the reality that Dhulbahnte decisively defeated his iidoor nation at the battle of Goojacaade. If he lives to be one hundred years old , he will still be advocating for a new war and revenge.

The iidoor as a whole are somewhere between TheYusef and Skywalker, although the more rational position seems to be presently holding sway .

If you check tiktok out......iidoor videos calling for war and the invasion of Garowe have all but disappeared.
The mood in iidoorland has shifted.

That's not to say there won't be a new war. Tyrant Bixi will do anything to stay in power.

I wanted to beat you until the end of muuse biixi term , but our arrogant president failed to finish the job , the next day (26th, of August) we Habarjeclos jumped out of his sinking ship. And completely broke the law of the land in favour of our habar yoonis cousins to prevent an isaaq civil war. That defeat was a blessing in disguise. We prevented Isaaq to fight over power, boosted our own habarjeclo good image. And now we are in charge of the whole situation. Your garaads can now directly deal with our committee. Our arrogant president is powerless. Don't be feared for all those troops we brought to Oog. They came to defend their own Isaaq peaple in case your faqash forces cross the line.

[theyuusuf143]

I really don't know what your obsession with Ceerigabo is.

We live and own our half of Ceerigabo, and have excellent relationships with the neighbouring HY/ Muuse Ismail.

Your hj have a negligible presence in Ceerigabo, having been expelled from the city during the last iidoor civil war.

Right this minute HY & HJ are slaughtering each other not too far from Ceerigabo. You have zero chance of expelling anybody from Ceerigabo.

Let it go sxb.

Because it's the only place we have no clear distance between us. Remember we no longer consider you as somalilanders .this means every inch you occupy today will be the future border of your country somalia. So we have to Push you out as much as as possible. Any previous deals between us under the law of somaliland is null and void.

[original dervish]

Unfortunately we had to beat some sense into you.
I've believed for a while now.....there will be no new war.

There will be no attempt to force us out of Ceerigabo.....if there is, it will be total war from Balidhig to Xiis. I don't think you want that.

We have already concluded a provisional agreement with the muuse Ismail of Ceerigabo to keep the 30 year peace going.

Once the main war is resolved, we will begin negotiations on a permanent settlement in Ceerigabo.

Personally, I believe the city should remain united, and given a special status in sl & Somalia.

[theyuusuf143]

Of course it will depend on the muuse Ismaciil mood , if you want to rely on that. All I am telling you is the national defence forces will completely destroy you if our citizens dial the emergency call. First we have to put them into power then they can rationally decide the border between you and them , I have nothing against if you diplomatically defeat me in that front and deal with the muse ismaaciil.

[original dervish]

Of course it will depend on the muuse Ismaciil mood , if you want to rely on that. All I am telling you is the national defence forces will completely destroy you if our citizens dial the emergency call. First we have to put them into power then they can rationally decide the border between you and them , I have nothing against if you diplomatically defeat me in that front and deal with the muse ismaaciil.

There is nothing to decide vis- a- vis the border.
The good thing about Dhulbahante and iidoor land is that we don't overlap. We know where one Dhulbahante village ends, and an iidoor village begins.
Grazing land of the two clans are governed by age old xeer.

Only in Ceerigabo do the two clans inhabit the same space. As I've mentioned over a dozen times. The Muuse Ismail and Dhulbahante have agreed a provisional settlement. Both sides agreed months ago to prevent the war from spreading to Ceerigabo.

Your threats of annihilation ring holliw to our ears.
We smashed your mightiest army into pieces. Killed and captured all your senior commanders, seized all of your heavy weaponry, and chased you all the way to Oog.
You have nothing left to threaten us with......maybe black magic.

[theyuusuf143]

Imagine if we lure you into this front and capture some of your important leaders . Maan rag waa mudacyo afkood.

[Gubbet]

Regarding the shelling , first and foremost I don't believe those who stayed in the city after February were civilians. I preferred the army to use all their artillery against the terrorists hiding in the city . To this day I Still criticize muuse not shelling enough to expell the the terrorists from the city. This didn't happen in fact the Dhuloos garaado were comfortably roaming in the city with their macawiso and luxury cars , inviting all isaaq enemies as a guests . In a way I am not different from your average faqash at the battle of hargeisa. Minus I wouldn't directly kill civilians or POWS .

After we were defeated , I accepted that defeat and I don't believe that we should relaunch an attack against dhulbahante to put them under our somaliland authority. Yes we can militarilly push them back to lascaanod. But we have no peaple to rule who we can earn tax from them and there is no an asset to fight for in this region . And it's why more costly than the previous war. So from economy point of view I have nothing to gain from here. And from political point of view we have nothing to loose. This Sool region is still disputed. We control half of it and they control their half.

When it comes to dhulbahante and isaaq peaple. I don't promote conflicts between our nomads, i respect the local xeer between subclans . Except one place, and that's Ceerigaabo. I believe we should completely remove Harti from This place either by war or systematically. I don't sugar coat my policies. I don't hate dhulbahante as a peaple , we can can still trade, and live like other somalis but we are no longer a fellow countrymen , I am not somalian and they are not somalilanders. Case closed.

You left nothing unused that you had in your possession. Just because the losing party hasn't used "all" their arsenal doesn't mean you could have hit harder.

If you had 3 pieces of artillery and used all 3, it is the same structural defeat as having 9 pieces of artillery, 3 of a kind each, and used 3 pieces of artillery 1 of each.

If you lose because you had 3 and you used 3 that is an operational defeat. If you lost because 3 pieces 1 of a kind each with 6 remaining 2 of a kind each wasn't a difference, you still lost operationally.

Recall during the war was going on I outlined every stage of defeat you suffered.

I said at the point of the 1st ceasefire unilaterally declared you lost POLITICALLY. I said at the end of February when the aim switched from taking Las Anod to staying relevant to Sool you lost STRATEGICALLY. I said by the time Harti battlewagons entered ful scale in spring you lost OPERATIONALLY. And I said by June you were not in Goojacadde because you could hold but because SSC hadn't chosen yet to dislodge that when it happened, you would be TACTICALLY defeated.

A war has 4 dynamics;

-Politically
-Strategically
-Operationally
-Tactically

The first 2 are about your peers, the last 2 are about your foes.

You lost on all 4, the first loss exactly after the 1st week when Muuse was compelled to unilaterally declare ceasefire after it became apparent Las Anod could not be taken by him. Again, the second last was the end of February when the US and UN condemnation came out when I said the US had already prejudged SSC would preservere in their declaration of Independence to Somaliland's independence bid.

So sxb, you lost.

The rest is just human weakness and ego preventing authentic relationship with truth.

Like I said, the overwhelming majority of my side will die innocently but having harmfully accepted the proposition injury to Isaaq civilians was "unfortunate" but "forced" by SNM bringing "rebellion" to northern towns.

Very few humans realize the capability to accept 0 justification for avoidable compulsion that inevitably led to civilian injury and harm.

You have only shown whether you are with that capability or not, you are not now with that ability yourself.

[theyuusuf143]

Afsomali ahaan daaroodaw waxaanu isku daynay inaanu lascaanod u dumino sidaad hargeisa u dumiseen laakiin Waanu Isku raaci Kari waynay arimo siyaasaded oo dhexdayada ah awgeed. Imika iyo haatan dhulbahante waa Naga adkaadeen sidaanu idiinka adkaanay ,91kii . Jamhuuriyada isaaqland ma jiraa somali xuduudaheeda geli karaa Idinkoo soo dawaday siday dhulbahante noo taageen ?

Waa maya , hadaba hooyadiin wasee accidentally baad isaaq empower garayseen. Iska dhaaf Cid kalee xitaa ninka dhulbahante canjiid masoo dhaafi Karo. Maxaad Ka filaysa eelay iyo Hutu. Meeshan somaliland unaka iska leh.