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KacdoonSool wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:59 pm
Waachis wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:26 pm A very controversial event here... what's going on? did the recent war in SSC/Dhulbahante land make SL's govt want to build this alliance and seek recognition? Do somalis in the south really wish to impose unity on SL, if SL happens to want to be on their own? What's going on?
Once you annex them they are going to destroy your country just like how they destroyed Somalia
Hmmm... who destroyed Somalia? The clan's that is dominant in SL? Or?
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Waachis wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:26 pm A very controversial event here... what's going on? did the recent war in SSC/Dhulbahante land make SL's govt want to build this alliance and seek recognition? Do somalis in the south really wish to impose unity on SL, if SL happens to want to be on their own? What's going on?
Muuse is playing with every body , so we don't really know what's going on until the final episode. So far muse backstabbed Hassan sheekh and geelle, but he may do the same to abiy if Hassan sheikh offers better deal "full recognition" . every one is desperate here. Abiy is seeking glory he is dealing too much internal problem, muuse has no enough time, he wants to bring ictiraaf, culusaw wants to safe Somalia. Geelle of djibouti is worried for the future of his little kingdom. Egypt is watching very closely. Alshabaab eyes on somaliland. It's a geopolitical game.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:22 pm
Waachis wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:26 pm A very controversial event here... what's going on? did the recent war in SSC/Dhulbahante land make SL's govt want to build this alliance and seek recognition? Do somalis in the south really wish to impose unity on SL, if SL happens to want to be on their own? What's going on?
Muuse is playing with every body , so we don't really know what's going on until the final episode. So far muse backstabbed Hassan sheekh and geelle, but he may do the same to abiy if Hassan sheikh offers better deal "full recognition" . every one is desperate here. Abiy is seeking glory he is dealing too much internal problem, muuse has no enough time, he wants to bring ictiraaf, culusaw wants to safe Somalia. Geelle of djibouti is worried for the future of his little kingdom. Egypt is watching very closely. Alshabaab eyes on somaliland. It's a geopolitical game.
Yeah, the thing is: 1) I have seen many Isaaq or SL supporters claiming that the Dhulbahante is getting support from clans in Ethiopia (darood?), SOO Maybe this move will get official ethiopian military backing/plans to clamp down on any subbort going to dhulbahante from within ethio-somali state; and 2) somalis are very passionate about this issue and I doubt HSM would openly back SL's full or official secession; but then again, who knows? I agree but there's not much djibouti can do, nor should they worry so much because ethiopia is going to re-route 30 percent of djiboutis port traffic to SL; so that means the majority is still going through Djibouti for the foreseeable future, although.. losing 30% of a billion or billions, is a big loss, especially for a tiny african country that doesn't have much natural resources...
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Waachis wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:36 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:22 pm
Waachis wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:26 pm A very controversial event here... what's going on? did the recent war in SSC/Dhulbahante land make SL's govt want to build this alliance and seek recognition? Do somalis in the south really wish to impose unity on SL, if SL happens to want to be on their own? What's going on?
Muuse is playing with every body , so we don't really know what's going on until the final episode. So far muse backstabbed Hassan sheekh and geelle, but he may do the same to abiy if Hassan sheikh offers better deal "full recognition" . every one is desperate here. Abiy is seeking glory he is dealing too much internal problem, muuse has no enough time, he wants to bring ictiraaf, culusaw wants to safe Somalia. Geelle of djibouti is worried for the future of his little kingdom. Egypt is watching very closely. Alshabaab eyes on somaliland. It's a geopolitical game.
Yeah, the thing is: 1) I have seen many Isaaq or SL supporters claiming that the Dhulbahante is getting support from clans in Ethiopia (darood?), SOO Maybe this move will get official ethiopian military backing/plans to clamp down on any subbort going to dhulbahante from within ethio-somali state; and 2) somalis are very passionate about this issue and I doubt HSM would openly back SL's full or official secession; but then again, who knows? I agree but there's not much djibouti can do, nor should they worry so much because ethiopia is going to re-route 30 percent of djiboutis port traffic to SL; so that means the majority is still going through be through Djibouti for the foreseeable future, although.. losing 30% of a billion or billions, is a big loss, especially for a tiny african country that doesn't have much natural resources...


Dont ever think that the likes of Hassan sheikh and his Hutus , will do anything that favours Somaaliland. The Darood leaders are closer, the Somalia and Somaliland Issue and conflict can only be solved by Darood and Isaaq. Hawiye is irrelevant in this
Ina Cagjar of Ethiopia is half Isaaq dont forget his maternal uncles is the same clan as President Biiixi of Somaliland.

If Ethiopia recognised Somaliland , Ethiopia will become Somaliland strategic ally of Somaliland in the forseable Future , an act of agression of Ethiopia will be an agression against Somaliland an agression against Oromo will be an agression against Somaliland. The Dhulbahante conflict with the Somaliland army will be solved through talks its not an big issue peace shall prevail
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The Dulbahante- sl war is over.
There will be a peace settlement between sl and Khaatumo state.

Conflict in the north is the last thing sl need .
Any instability will jeopardise the sea deal and prospective secession.

We support this iidoor- Ethiopia deal.

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That's good brothers, I'd like to less fighting, and more trade, more businesses, more export/import, more modern, irrigation based farming (if Ethiopia, heck, if Oromia alone does it, it can feed the entire Horn), etc.
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Khalid Ali wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:43 pm
Waachis wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:36 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:22 pm

Muuse is playing with every body , so we don't really know what's going on until the final episode. So far muse backstabbed Hassan sheekh and geelle, but he may do the same to abiy if Hassan sheikh offers better deal "full recognition" . every one is desperate here. Abiy is seeking glory he is dealing too much internal problem, muuse has no enough time, he wants to bring ictiraaf, culusaw wants to safe Somalia. Geelle of djibouti is worried for the future of his little kingdom. Egypt is watching very closely. Alshabaab eyes on somaliland. It's a geopolitical game.
Yeah, the thing is: 1) I have seen many Isaaq or SL supporters claiming that the Dhulbahante is getting support from clans in Ethiopia (darood?), SOO Maybe this move will get official ethiopian military backing/plans to clamp down on any subbort going to dhulbahante from within ethio-somali state; and 2) somalis are very passionate about this issue and I doubt HSM would openly back SL's full or official secession; but then again, who knows? I agree but there's not much djibouti can do, nor should they worry so much because ethiopia is going to re-route 30 percent of djiboutis port traffic to SL; so that means the majority is still going through be through Djibouti for the foreseeable future, although.. losing 30% of a billion or billions, is a big loss, especially for a tiny african country that doesn't have much natural resources...


Dont ever think that the likes of Hassan sheikh and his Hutus , will do anything that favours Somaaliland. The Darood leaders are closer, the Somalia and Somaliland Issue and conflict can only be solved by Darood and Isaaq. Hawiye is irrelevant in this
Ina Cagjar of Ethiopia is half Isaaq dont forget his maternal uncles is the same clan as President Biiixi of Somaliland.

If Ethiopia recognised Somaliland , Ethiopia will become Somaliland strategic ally of Somaliland in the forseable Future , an act of agression of Ethiopia will be an agression against Somaliland an agression against Oromo will be an agression against Somaliland. The Dhulbahante conflict with the Somaliland army will be solved through talks its not an big issue peace shall prevail
The hagites will do everything in their power to destroy the sl- Ethiopia sea deal. Not because they care about Somalia. Its because they really believe they have a veto over other Somalis.

Once sl defeats the hagites politically.......I expect pl and Jl to start making international agreements.

The hagites will be left with Al Shabaab land.
They must reap what they've sewn over the last 33 years.

The sl- SSC issue is not a big deal. We will deal with each on the basis of mutual interests.
SSC region stands to benefit from the sea deal.

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exactly OD this is good , SSC and Somaliland will open border and live in peace with each other there is no need for bloodshed berbera port is open for you to do bussines and movement of People will be established.In the Future we can even create a common currency , and support each other strategic issues. Joint Millatary excersises.
if we drill oil in Somaliland and Khatumo drils oil in their territotry . we can be like the gcc we can be uae and u can be qatar i can work with that prosparity for all

its also good that u have given up on the Hutus , to revive the dead Somalia
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Somalia have no choice, but to recognize somaliland to save itself. We can negotiate the the eastern borders , and sign defence pact.

If they refuse our suggestion, then we gonna proceed to deal with Ethiopia. And Somalia is out of the window.
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We have common interests and responsible leaderships.
I've always believed in a northern entity......what shape and form it takes will be decided by negotiations.

The main point is the understanding that Mogadishu is no longer relevant to our peoples.

It's till too early to reach any conclusions.
However, the wheels of change are turning in both our favours.

One thing sl should be definite on.......is limiting the number of Ethiopian troops on its territory.
The last thing you want is a northern Xalane. A state within a state.
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The hutus will not rest untill they drag the rest of the Somalis to their level there is no prospect of peace or buidling anything everhing farmaajo did achieve they have regressed these , they started with macwsile to fight the shabaab the shabaab has not been defeated and they know it to the corruption is wide spread

For us we do not need anything from them not a single thing we should build a wall that keeps them out
everthing they touch will destoy us

yes we should negotiate how to share the wealth between us , if oil is drilled in Somaliland that means enough wealth for every one indians will work for us like the arab countries and the Dhulabahnte territories is also full of oil holhol area i believe its ur ugaadhayan territory ., why on earth would u share ur wealth with a Hutu who does not even want u to be a state or doesnt want to give u some of the money he begged from the white man

the Ethiopians wil have a naval force and use a dekked in Somaliland thats it thas the deal we do not have a freedom of movement with them , we are very vigiliant as hassan culusow said The Somaliland odayaal were smart in the 1800s and said that Brits cant give birth on the Somaliland soil
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