Xassan sheikh slaps Somaliland and Ethiopia to the ground by canceling Ethiopian ariline to land in hargeisa

[gobdoon]

Somalay midnimo iyo difaac iyo tafararuq oo meel la iska dhigo dawlad, shicib iyo general media, hal cod lagu wada hadlo

[original dervish]

Mrs lick is full of fake news.

But ethiopia will land in hargeysa and there is nothing ulusow can do about it. I remember when farmaajo banned kenya from kismaayo yet kenya found a way and ulusow to baboon was saying then "kenya is our brothers" and was supporting kenya.

This is why I'm not against sl secession.
Somalia is f.... up and isn't coming back
The hagites will sit in villa Somalia and hold the rest of the country hostage in perpetuity.

Didnt you want these hagites to come back to power?

I always take a pragmatic approach to Somali politics.
Round pegs should go into round holes.
Therefore, at this juncture a hagite in Villa Somalia was the right choice. I did , however, preface that with the caveat......any hagite save for HSM.

[Khalid Ali]

The humuliation of Somaliland contnue hassan dameer stops another plane from entering somaliland

Somalia turns back second plane headed for Somaliland
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Thursday January 18, 2024



Mogadishu (HOL) - Somali Civil Aviation Authority turned away a cargo plane destined for the self-declared republic of Somaliland from Sharjah on Thursday, marking the second instance of the Somali government denying airspace permission in the last 24 hours.

The country's Civil Aviation body stated in a release that the cargo plane, registered in Thailand (registration P4-JAG), failed to provide information on its cargo.


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On Wednesday, the Aviation Agency turned away an unauthorized Ethiopian Airlines plane (ET8372) D-8-Q400 from Somali airspace, citing a lack of "authorization to utilize Somali airspace. The flight, Dash 8-Q400, with flight number ET8372, en route to Egal International Airport in Hargeisa, was compelled to turn back. The Ethiopian officials were visiting Somaliland to discuss a deal, which has sparked a huge row.

Somalia considers Somaliland to be part of its territory.

The agreement, signed on 1 January, would allow Somaliland to lease one of its ports to Ethiopia in exchange for a stake in Ethiopian Airlines and possible recognition of Somaliland as a sovereign state.

Somalia has reacted angrily to the deal, calling it an act of aggression.

[mahor]

I always take a pragmatic approach to Somali politics.
Round pegs should go into round holes.
Therefore, at this juncture a hagite in Villa Somalia was the right choice. I did , however, preface that with the caveat......any hagite save for HSM.

Fair enough, but i dont think hsm is the biggest issue this time although he turned the state into clan/family venture.
The reason why farmajo/hsm arent capable of beating alshabab is because it requires the assistance of the major clans in the south who play both sides. If the ppl arent interested in liberating themselves from alshabab and status quo then there isnt anything you can do for them; whether its hsm in charge or anyone else makes no difference.

[original dervish]

Khalid I think you can see now that sl was living in a fantasy land all these years.

Now is the time to develop a new political strategy towards secession. Sl must follow the legal route....there is no other way. South Sudan should be your model.

I'm telling you now Ethiopia has no intention of recognising sl. In fact their aggressive illegal actions are counterproductive.

[Khalid Ali]

yes i used to think that Somaliland was independent and it controled land air and sea but it doesnt control its air space and it isnt willing to do to build a capable airspace facility what a failure

we are far from independent we are humuliated the past few days this is very sad

Moral jab banugu dhacay

[theyuusuf143]

Mrs lick is full of fake news.

But ethiopia will land in hargeysa and there is nothing ulusow can do about it. I remember when farmaajo banned kenya from kismaayo yet kenya found a way and ulusow to baboon was saying then "kenya is our brothers" and was supporting kenya.

[theyuusuf143]

Sii share gareeya Nacala shaydaan Ku yaale kkkkkkkk

[theyuusuf143]

Somalay midnimo iyo difaac iyo tafararuq oo meel la iska dhigo dawlad, shicib iyo general media, hal cod lagu wada hadlo

Hooyada somalidu wastay.

[Khalid Ali]

OD I wouldnt say that the ethiopiand dont want to recognise SL they will recognise SL for a sea outlet they desperately want a sea out for sure. who is going to give them out let not eritrea not jabuuti not somalia not kenya

but somaliland is willing to trade all they have to do is ictraaf somaliland , they can nobody will say anythin countries have the right to recognise who ever they want

[original dervish]

OD I wouldnt say that the ethiopiand dont want to recognise SL they will recognise SL for a sea outlet they desperately want a sea out for sure. who is going to give them out let not eritrea not jabuuti not somalia not kenya

but somaliland is willing to trade all they have to do is ictraaf somaliland , they can nobody will say anythin countries have the right to recognise who ever they want

Khalid I thought you knew how international politics worked.

Ethiopia refused to recognise sl for 30 years. Now it wants to recognise the illegal unilateral declaration of sl, and gobble up the territory of its sovereign neighbour.

This illegal action on the part of Ethiopia is a recipe for conflict and chaos in the international system. If this becomes a precedent......any country can recognise a ragtag separatist group and swallow up territory.

Ethiopia is the centre of the AU.....they know all this. That's why I believe their actions are designed to estrange Somalia and SL, gain access to the sea and fake recognise SL.

No other country will recognise SL. In fact it will become more likely than not SL secession will be jeopardised.

Who is advising sl? Where is that Paki lawyer?
Surely there must be some iidoor who understand how this game is played.

[BigBreak]

Djibouti would help massively if they recognised Somaliland as independent in exchange for Somaliland tearing up our MOU with Ethiopia and leaving Djibouti to keep its total monopoly on being the gateway for imports and exports respectively arriving to and departing from Ethiopia. A loose confederation between Somaliland and Djibouti (but not Somalia) would be a massive win-win

[Khalid Ali]

OD I wouldnt say that the ethiopiand dont want to recognise SL they will recognise SL for a sea outlet they desperately want a sea out for sure. who is going to give them out let not eritrea not jabuuti not somalia not kenya

but somaliland is willing to trade all they have to do is ictraaf somaliland , they can nobody will say anythin countries have the right to recognise who ever they want

Khalid I thought you knew how international politics worked.

Ethiopia refused to recognise sl for 30 years. Now it wants to recognise the illegal unilateral declaration of sl, and gobble up the territory of its sovereign neighbour.

This illegal action on the part of Ethiopia is a recipe for conflict and chaos in the international system. If this becomes a precedent......any country can recognise a ragtag separatist group and swallow up territory.

Ethiopia is the centre of the AU.....they know all this. That's why I believe their actions are designed to estrange Somalia and SL, gain access to the sea and fake recognise SL.

No other country will recognise SL. In fact it will become more likely than not SL secession will be jeopardised.

Who is advising sl? Where is that Paki lawyer?
Surely there must be some iidoor who understand how this game is played.

i know there are other ways to go it , it is true ethiopia would have not recognised us if we did not have something to offer , but lucky for us their needs is worth more to them then keeping Somalia and Somaliland together or their relations with somalia. they dont care for somalia. u know western sahara was recognised by 60 states in the world. Somaliland could go that path. because if we cant pressure the walamnweyn to sit down with us , we cant agree to an ambicle solution i to wish that muse just uses the mou to have leverage with the walanweyn and come to some solutions or the west force the west to mediate between sl and somalia for once and stop the walanmweyn stalling this could work, if not then we have to go the path the long path and that starts with ethiopia its risky but eventually we wil also get there , but it will take longer and longer that for sur e

[Khalid Ali]

Djibouti would help massively if they recognised Somaliland as independent in exchange for Somaliland tearing up our MOU with Ethiopia and leaving Djibouti to keep its total monopoly on being the gateway for imports and exports respectively arriving to and departing from Ethiopia. A loose confederation between Somaliland and Djibouti (but not Somalia) would be a massive win-win

why would jabuuti accept such a ridicelous proposal , first jabuuti would be dominated by Somaliland and isaaq completly they are already struggeling with isaaq dominating jabuuti in the comercial and financial sector.. What makes u think they want to deal with more isaaq.

[BigBreak]

Djibouti would help massively if they recognised Somaliland as independent in exchange for Somaliland tearing up our MOU with Ethiopia and leaving Djibouti to keep its total monopoly on being the gateway for imports and exports respectively arriving to and departing from Ethiopia. A loose confederation between Somaliland and Djibouti (but not Somalia) would be a massive win-win

why would jabuuti accept such a ridicelous proposal , first jabuuti would be dominated by Somaliland and isaaq completly they are already struggeling with isaaq dominating jabuuti in the comercial and financial sector.. What makes u think they want to deal with more isaaq.

It could work in a balanced way, 50/50 power-sharing. one country has the presidency and the other country has the capital city (seat of government) for example. issa has most djiboutian positions and isaaq has most somalilander positions