Deni 'Qurux' sends Kaptan Ayub, who coined sobriquet 'Bahane,' to welcome Roble 'Bahane.'

[barbarossa]

^ Darn it! The artist formerly known as Voltage once again robs me a chance for glory.

[Nomand]

How cheaply marehan are satisfied.

Aint you the guy who said give in to Culusoow? Ka dhaqaaq meesha sxb.This is team Deni 'Qurux'

Sbashi,

Never said that I said if marehan where smart they would work with ulusow rather then being used a pawn by deni.

But my stand is I prefer 1000 years of hawiye being president then 1 day of an MJ president.

[Gubbet]

Deni 'Qurux,' hogaamiyaha ruuxiga umadda Soomaaliyeed. DENI 'QURUX' IS HIS NAME.

[Gubbet]

How cheaply marehan are satisfied.

Aint you the guy who said give in to Culusoow? Ka dhaqaaq meesha sxb.This is team Deni 'Qurux'

Sbashi,

Never said that I said if marehan where smart they would work with ulusow rather then being used a pawn by deni.

But my stand is I prefer 1000 years of hawiye being president then 1 day of an MJ president.

Please don't ever say that to me again. Thank you.

Observe your thoughts right at this moment to see why you and murax keep regretting in the future what you supported in the past.

Give in to Janan because can attack his own people, give in to Farmaajo even when wrong, give in to Madoobe because he has Kenyans, give in to dhuuso because it has the power of smell,, now give in to Culusoow.

How about NO giving in...like Deni 'Qurux.'

[BigBreak]

The worst nightmare for MX is having an MJ or OG be Somalia's President

[Murax]

Gubbet,

Don’t take this the wrong way but you are very symbolic of why MX are where they are. No Mabda, principal, strategic objective, and most importantly ability to compartmentalise, and multitask.

Take yourself for example you can’t tie your shoes and hate Culusow at the same time. Your math is hate culusow? Disgracably get under the macawiis of anyone in this case a man who not just stabbed you in the back but made sure you were dead (Ceelqalow mps). Why do you need to hide behind another man to Mucaarad Culusow? At the end of the day I respect the Hustle of Culusow using Deni as a stepping stone all the way to presidency, then discarding Deni as a condom then I do Deni himself.


In any event tbh I don’t understand or agree with pretty much anything you say these days but just know what irks Nomamd and I is not that you hold the opinions you hold as you’re entitled to them. It’s that you try to pass them off as some type of majority MX opinion when that couldn’t be further from the truth. The truth is your MX people have no political direction mainly because their response is never to control their own destiny, chart their own path but get behind someone else. It’s why today you’ll find MX with Madoobe, Culusow, Deni, God knows who else.

[Gubbet]

Gubbet,

Don’t take this the wrong way but you are very symbolic of why MX are where they are. No Mabda, principal, strategic objective, and most importantly ability to compartmentalise, and multitask.

Take yourself for example you can’t tie your shoes and hate Culusow at the same time.

Sxb, let your hear your words .

Wallahi, speak what you wrote out loud at least 3X so your ears can hear it.

The irony here is I am so princpled and true to those princples that your very person is attacking him or rather criticizing me for it in this very topic and have done so consistently painting me as an 'idealist/rigid/inflexible.'

Murax, my brother, and I say 'You do not defend nor champion your princples ENOUGH.'

[Murax]

Gubbet,

There is no universality of principles, they differ from person to person. I don’t believe there was a contract we all signed saying we’s be beholden to the same exact principles.


Me personally I have always been adamant my principles are based on pragmatism, and looking at everything from a plus minus standpoint. That is standard whether it is at a sub level (MX) or national level (Somalia). One thing I wish of you brother is if you embraced idealism less, and reality more because with that you’ll be able to see encourage movement towards more achievable, tangible goals for national causes you believe in. Case in point I had a good chuckle the other day when you asked why the Somali parliament won’t impeach Culusow. I thought that was very comical.


So let’s get to your whole premise of why you constantly accuse me of going against my principles which is is funny because I’d like to think I’m a expert on what my principles are and not. The issue of Janaan. Like I said from the very beginning I look at everything from a plus/minus standpoint, and I take into account BARGAINING position. Janaan unlike Abu Mansoor was NOT a fugitive but a renegade, criminal commander who had a sizable force, significant military equipment, supply lines, and finances. Furthermore since Somalia is post civil war and still devilishly possessed by love of Qabil he had people from his own subclan rhat would support him. So all in all from a plus minus, mindset, considering the circumstances I didn’t think it was ill
Advised to accept his surrender while turning your attention to other spoilers. But your holier than thou, liberal cape mindset says no he should have been arrested with the key thrown away when the truth is at that time N&N had enough pirañas circling around.


By the way you know what’s interesting? Considering the billions of brain cells I wasted reading Somali news I cannot help but notice this whole Janaan scenario was really the biggest deal to you when in the dozens of Somali news outlets I saw never made it anywhere near as big a deal as you made it which is weird.


Anyway this was all to put to bed your whole ‘principle’ point you keep making. I have principles, so does everyone but a big part of my principles is choosing the greater good, while warding off the bigger evil. Japan WW2 had a die to the last man NEVER surrender warrior culture, but the surrendered quick after the atomic bombs. There is no such thing in the real world as unbendable principles!

[Gubbet]

You know why it is a big deal to me? You have to go back and read me in the moment.

But first in stark opposition to your initial charge above, here is you pointing my unwavering principles in that same ordeal;

Voltage,

We need more Somalis who show principle, lack of favoritism based on Qablaayad, so I support you if that’s how you feel.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p4995823

In that same topic, I said this;

What has destroyed Marehan, obliterated Gedo, and wreaked havoc in 30 years is "IMPUNITY" AND "LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY."

"Oh , you ran in to a foreign country, declared war on your people, attacked your own town, killed the people that you said was your tol, and destroyed property and hanti?"

"Oh that's fine, just don't do it again!!"



https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 7#p4995731

As for why it is relevant for me to bring up in conversations with you and Nomans, well this is why;

We as Somalis are the definition of superficial, mindless, expediency driven completely bankrupt beyond the surface and it is my own clan to show me to what extent this rot has damaged us to the core.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0#p4995918

So you see it is not really about 'Janan,' but the lessons imparted from that moment. That moment is why Gedo is lawless today. Why there are horgal appointess claiming authority acting in opposition to the interests of the people they claim responsibility over. You criticize Marehan today because there are horgal iyo bacbac everywhere. Well...do you remember when you were wrongfully supporting poison to the Marehan body? Why be surprised if the today the body is afflicted?


On another note, it seems my prayer was delivered that just as God had torn out Khusroe's Sasanian Empire, so too Farmaajo's presidency be ripped and torn out for that betrayal of Marehan, Gedo, and Somalia

It is why Inam preparing for the inevitable.

When I make that realization, I will swiftly make wudu, pray 2 rakca of Istikhaarah, and ask Allah (swt) to swiftly remove Farmaajo from office---swiftly as possible.

I will pray that he is removed as quickly as possible for the irreparable damage brought to Somali xukum and cadaalad and the impunity legitimized with innocent Marehan blood of all people.

I will even pray that the President I supported with all my hope be removed ignominiously if he made this egriegious offense due to political calculations in effect sacrificing everything central to WHY someone deserves to be in that office.

Like the Persian Shah the Prophet said may his empire be torn up like he tore up the message of allah, I will pray that Farmaajo ignominiously loses the seat he traded every princple to good governance for.

I am only waiting for that inevitable moment where I can't hold out any other hope.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p4995836

Ismilaahi Raxmaani Raxiim, did my habar 8-ball him because that exactly came true to the T.

[MrSinister]

I’ve never seen Marexaan and Majerteen elites this politically aligned before. New dawn for Somalia.

[Murax]

Since when was Farmaajo a Marexaan leader? Why was it his responsibility to met out clan sanctioned punishment against Janaan? If MX have no dhaqan, elders, grassroots institutions that’s on them. Farmaajo at the end of the day was, and is a politician and one who was looking for reelection at that. In that scenario he made a move, I understand it you disagree with it but dammit for goodness sake can you just get over it? Btw MX has been lost in the wilderness since 2006. Their dhaqan institution became non existent, and their ‘politicians’ are Xamar obsessed who I hate to say give credence to the ‘MX Dawlad Ku Nool’ insult. Talking about solutions on how to solve this perhaps unsolvable issue would be prudent but you being a shameless fanboy of one of probably 100s of exploiters of your lack of order is unbecoming, achieves nothing and if nothing else is shameful.

Btw back to the accountability thing it is unfair for you to criticize me as a diehard Farmaajo cheerleader who worshiped his every move. If anything I criticized many of them, just not this particular SINGLE ISSUE that has irked you so much. I genuinely believed, and believe that Somalia would have been stronger, more united, professionally ran if Farmaajo was incharge. That was what I sincerely thought regardless of Qabil, and my sincerity in that regard is proven by how I didn’t abandon Somali causes, or feel that I need to embrace counter Somali positions just to spite Culusow like a lot of Farmaajo supporters have done which I called out. If I was a blind Farmaajo supporter I would have indeed been one of those!

[Gubbet]

Since when was Farmaajo a Marexaan leader? Why was it his responsibility to met out clan sanctioned punishment against Janaan? If MX have no dhaqan, elders, grassroots institutions that’s on them. Farmaajo at the end of the day was, and is a politician and one who was looking for reelection at that. In that scenario he made a move, I understand it you disagree with it but dammit for goodness sake can you just get over it? Btw MX has been lost in the wilderness since 2006. Their dhaqan institution became non existent, and their ‘politicians’ are Xamar obsessed who I hate to say give credence to the ‘MX Dawlad Ku Nool’ insult. Talking about solutions on how to solve this perhaps unsolvable issue would be prudent but you being a shameless fanboy of one of probably 100s of exploiters of your lack of order is unbecoming, achieves nothing and if nothing else is shameful.

Btw back to the accountability thing it is unfair for you to criticize me as a diehard Farmaajo cheerleader who worshiped his every move. If anything I criticized many of them, just not this particular SINGLE ISSUE that has irked you so much. I genuinely believed, and believe that Somalia would have been stronger, more united, professionally ran if Farmaajo was incharge. That was what I sincerely thought regardless of Qabil, and my sincerity in that regard is proven by how I didn’t abandon Somali causes, or feel that I need to embrace counter Somali positions just to spite Culusow like a lot of Farmaajo supporters have done which I called out. If I was a blind Farmaajo supporter I would have indeed been one of those!

No Murax, NO. You do this all the time---excusing bad leadership. You are doing the same for Culusoow right now. That's really why you are in this topic.

Farmaajo took soldiers there, he named the administration, he faced Janan, he fired 'shoot,' he capitulated, he escorted him in, he put him on a pedastal in the middle of Beled-Xaawo where he targeted, he escorted him through Marehan, he took him on a private jet.

Sxb, STOP victimizing the Marehan people for the actions of bad leadership.

You never criticize the bad leadership and have all the criticism for the innocent Marehan layman.


It wasn't on Marehan, it was on FARMAAJO. HE WAS THE LEADER WITH AUTHORITY.

WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN GEDO IS NOT ON MAREHAN; IT IS ON THAT DEVIANT PLANT GEEDANAAR/LUG BURUQ AND DISGRACED CHARLATAN CULUSOOW WHO HAS BEEN TRYING TO FACILITATE IT USING NATIONAL RESOURCES AS SOME SORT OF 'REVENGE' AGAINST THE OTHER GUY WHO FIRST VICTIMIZED GEDO!

Walaaloow, Murax, stop it sxb.

That is why you are not satisfied with the outcome. You and the Nomads and many more only ENABLE IT so it festers and repeats and repeats.

Somalia's biggest problem is a cycle of IMPUNITY becauseBADN LEADERSHIP is not held ACCOUNTABLE and is even ENABLED as this circumstance shows.

How about we finally directly criticize power and influence rather than generically targeting an abstract Somali laymen who is only really serving as a "whipping boy", a 'proxy, for enabling the sins of the first...?

And Deni 'Qurux' right now is the only one swiping at the wannabe 'tyrant' DISGRACED CHARLATAN CULUSOOW---the same one you and Noman's are reborn as enablers of tyranny.

DENI 'QURUX' IS DENI 'QURUX' BECAUSE HE IS CULLING THE CHARLATAN'S ATTEMPTED TYRANNY!



P.S. Nothing personal, but that's how strongly I feel about this.

[Gubbet]

I’ve never seen Marexaan and Majerteen elites this politically aligned before. New dawn for Somalia.

Deni 'Qurux,' Tyrant Slayer.

[MrSinister]

I’ve never seen Marexaan and Majerteen elites this politically aligned before. New dawn for Somalia.

Deni 'Qurux,' Tyrant Slayer.

Hassan dameer spent millions trying to destabilize Puntland and take Deni down, he was humiliated in Garowe

[Gubbet]

I’ve never seen Marexaan and Majerteen elites this politically aligned before. New dawn for Somalia.

Deni 'Qurux,' Tyrant Slayer.

Hassan dameer spent millions trying to destabilize Puntland and take Deni down, he was humiliated in Garowe

I love to see it. DENI 'QURUX' ISN'T EASY.