Spot on. Only thing you miss is what most Somalilanders always miss. No such thing as wanlaweynland or Somalia. Wa dugag is cunayo oo Kenya iyo Ethiopia aya adegsado. Which means we can actually get a quick formal recognition from them if we sponsor our own puppets into signing it. You're mistaken to think dugagas inay is ku racayan Somaliland diid ayako Kenya iyo Ethiopia u kala adegayo.Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:18 pmoriginal dervish wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:41 am What we are witnessing is the death knell of the Somali Republic.
The vultures of Ethiopia and Kenya have been circling for years......now they will swoop in to feast on the carcass of Somalia.
Somaliland will never be independent.....its littoral will be taken by Ethiopia under the guise of land lease. The remainder will be an Ethiopian bantustan.
Kenya will take over southern JL and reclaim the JL offshore.
PL, SSC will be left to their own devices.
Central Somalia will be a contained AS statelet.Similar to IISIS in Idlib province Syria.
Mogadishu will be like Kabul under the US occupation.
A useless paper government, making money for ngos and private mercenaries.
We are not far off from the above scenario.....this is the logical conclusion of 30+ years of moryaanism.
The hagites use to boast how they didn't need a government......let them now taste what their hands sent before them.
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thats just wishfull thinking somaliland isnt kurdistan where is a bad gray wolf called turkey to oppose us
we are dealing with a dead republic called somalia nor do kenya and ethiopia oppose our existence
today somalilland have the best of ties, Djibouti is a non factor
the international community isnt also opposed to somaliland the only reason why sl isnt recognised as of now is simply because the west doesnt want to kick down somalia and wanted to keep sl in limbo so in order to give the walanweyns some hope that the old republic can be restored. the usa has always said we shall follow what africa will do now we making gradual steps on how africa can recognise SL , SL will go the path of the western sahara, where the au recognised it despite oppostion from morroco and morocco cant be compared to the failed state, what makes u think somalia has a bigger say then morocco , somaliland has a good cause a good case a stable goverment elections allot of things going on for it
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What you ,and so many iidoors, fail to realise is that its not what you sl do, but what the international community want. The world ie IGAD, EU, US, UK, Somalia, Arabs, China will never countenance a third Somali state. You need to get this geopolitiacal reality into your thick heads. Everytime an obscure politician makes a positive statement about sl......its like the second coming for iidoors. Your sl will never be recognised in a million years. I say this as someone who is sympathetic to your secessionist desires.Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:18 pmoriginal dervish wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:41 am What we are witnessing is the death knell of the Somali Republic.
The vultures of Ethiopia and Kenya have been circling for years......now they will swoop in to feast on the carcass of Somalia.
Somaliland will never be independent.....its littoral will be taken by Ethiopia under the guise of land lease. The remainder will be an Ethiopian bantustan.
Kenya will take over southern JL and reclaim the JL offshore.
PL, SSC will be left to their own devices.
Central Somalia will be a contained AS statelet.Similar to IISIS in Idlib province Syria.
Mogadishu will be like Kabul under the US occupation.
A useless paper government, making money for ngos and private mercenaries.
We are not far off from the above scenario.....this is the logical conclusion of 30+ years of moryaanism.
The hagites use to boast how they didn't need a government......let them now taste what their hands sent before them.
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thats just wishfull thinking somaliland isnt kurdistan where is a bad gray wolf called turkey to oppose us
we are dealing with a dead republic called somalia nor do kenya and ethiopia oppose our existence
today somalilland have the best of ties, Djibouti is a non factor
the international community isnt also opposed to somaliland the only reason why sl isnt recognised as of now is simply because the west doesnt want to kick down somalia and wanted to keep sl in limbo so in order to give the walanweyns some hope that the old republic can be restored. the usa has always said we shall follow what africa will do now we making gradual steps on how africa can recognise SL , SL will go the path of the western sahara, where the au recognised it despite oppostion from morroco and morocco cant be compared to the failed state, what makes u think somalia has a bigger say then morocco , somaliland has a good cause a good case a stable goverment elections allot of things going on for it
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Re: Inaa Lilaah Wa Inaa Ilayhi Raaju’uun: Culusow Tells Italian Colonizers Take Your Property Back!
OD,original dervish wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:44 amWhat you ,and so many iidoors, fail to realise is that its not what you sl do, but what the international community want. The world ie IGAD, EU, US, UK, Somalia, Arabs, China will never countenance a third Somali state. You need to get this geopolitiacal reality into your thick heads. Everytime an obscure politician makes a positive statement about sl......its like the second coming for iidoors. Your sl will never be recognised in a million years. I say this as someone who is sympathetic to your secessionist desires.Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:18 pmoriginal dervish wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:41 am What we are witnessing is the death knell of the Somali Republic.
The vultures of Ethiopia and Kenya have been circling for years......now they will swoop in to feast on the carcass of Somalia.
Somaliland will never be independent.....its littoral will be taken by Ethiopia under the guise of land lease. The remainder will be an Ethiopian bantustan.
Kenya will take over southern JL and reclaim the JL offshore.
PL, SSC will be left to their own devices.
Central Somalia will be a contained AS statelet.Similar to IISIS in Idlib province Syria.
Mogadishu will be like Kabul under the US occupation.
A useless paper government, making money for ngos and private mercenaries.
We are not far off from the above scenario.....this is the logical conclusion of 30+ years of moryaanism.
The hagites use to boast how they didn't need a government......let them now taste what their hands sent before them.
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thats just wishfull thinking somaliland isnt kurdistan where is a bad gray wolf called turkey to oppose us
we are dealing with a dead republic called somalia nor do kenya and ethiopia oppose our existence
today somalilland have the best of ties, Djibouti is a non factor
the international community isnt also opposed to somaliland the only reason why sl isnt recognised as of now is simply because the west doesnt want to kick down somalia and wanted to keep sl in limbo so in order to give the walanweyns some hope that the old republic can be restored. the usa has always said we shall follow what africa will do now we making gradual steps on how africa can recognise SL , SL will go the path of the western sahara, where the au recognised it despite oppostion from morroco and morocco cant be compared to the failed state, what makes u think somalia has a bigger say then morocco , somaliland has a good cause a good case a stable goverment elections allot of things going on for it
What a Dhulbahnte like you will never understand is something called principals. Unlike you who will change everything he beliefs for bag of rice.We would never for all the money in the world sell our dreams. We do not go, we want separation, then unification and back and forth. Sxb learn from the iidoors.
The USA, IGAD, EU, UK, Arabs, China, or any other international group does not have any issues with a "3rd Somali state". They have a problem with the 1 Somali state which current exists only on paper. The one that does not have army or provide education or health to its people. The one being guarded by 30k strong african force against al shabab. This is the geopolitical reality that you need to open your eyes to. Somaliland's chances are not based on your useless opinion be it you are pro or anti succsionion. They are based on how hard those "thick headed" iidoors chase the dream. And as the saying goes Get succession or die
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Re: Inaa Lilaah Wa Inaa Ilayhi Raaju’uun: Culusow Tells Italian Colonizers Take Your Property Back!
original dervish wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:44 amWhat you ,and so many iidoors, fail to realise is that its not what you sl do, but what the international community want. The world ie IGAD, EU, US, UK, Somalia, Arabs, China will never countenance a third Somali state. You need to get this geopolitiacal reality into your thick heads. Everytime an obscure politician makes a positive statement about sl......its like the second coming for iidoors. Your sl will never be recognised in a million years. I say this as someone who is sympathetic to your secessionist desires.Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:18 pmoriginal dervish wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:41 am What we are witnessing is the death knell of the Somali Republic.
The vultures of Ethiopia and Kenya have been circling for years......now they will swoop in to feast on the carcass of Somalia.
Somaliland will never be independent.....its littoral will be taken by Ethiopia under the guise of land lease. The remainder will be an Ethiopian bantustan.
Kenya will take over southern JL and reclaim the JL offshore.
PL, SSC will be left to their own devices.
Central Somalia will be a contained AS statelet.Similar to IISIS in Idlib province Syria.
Mogadishu will be like Kabul under the US occupation.
A useless paper government, making money for ngos and private mercenaries.
We are not far off from the above scenario.....this is the logical conclusion of 30+ years of moryaanism.
The hagites use to boast how they didn't need a government......let them now taste what their hands sent before them.
![]()
thats just wishfull thinking somaliland isnt kurdistan where is a bad gray wolf called turkey to oppose us
we are dealing with a dead republic called somalia nor do kenya and ethiopia oppose our existence
today somalilland have the best of ties, Djibouti is a non factor
the international community isnt also opposed to somaliland the only reason why sl isnt recognised as of now is simply because the west doesnt want to kick down somalia and wanted to keep sl in limbo so in order to give the walanweyns some hope that the old republic can be restored. the usa has always said we shall follow what africa will do now we making gradual steps on how africa can recognise SL , SL will go the path of the western sahara, where the au recognised it despite oppostion from morroco and morocco cant be compared to the failed state, what makes u think somalia has a bigger say then morocco , somaliland has a good cause a good case a stable goverment elections allot of things going on for it
your argument can be destroyed with one sentence lets say just for hypothatically one walanweyn president stands up one day and say its enough i have no issue with SL independence and sees the bigger picture and that so called president of the bunker signs the divorce paper and the rest of the world just follow suit and and there u have it SL is recognised. what will the west say then u think no third country. there is no opposition to SL apart from some politicial naysayers the vast majority of africans are neutral or pro dont lose SLEEP OVER SL
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I thought you had moved beyond the personal attacks.skywalker25 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:16 pmOD,original dervish wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:44 amWhat you ,and so many iidoors, fail to realise is that its not what you sl do, but what the international community want. The world ie IGAD, EU, US, UK, Somalia, Arabs, China will never countenance a third Somali state. You need to get this geopolitiacal reality into your thick heads. Everytime an obscure politician makes a positive statement about sl......its like the second coming for iidoors. Your sl will never be recognised in a million years. I say this as someone who is sympathetic to your secessionist desires.Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:18 pm
thats just wishfull thinking somaliland isnt kurdistan where is a bad gray wolf called turkey to oppose us
we are dealing with a dead republic called somalia nor do kenya and ethiopia oppose our existence
today somalilland have the best of ties, Djibouti is a non factor
the international community isnt also opposed to somaliland the only reason why sl isnt recognised as of now is simply because the west doesnt want to kick down somalia and wanted to keep sl in limbo so in order to give the walanweyns some hope that the old republic can be restored. the usa has always said we shall follow what africa will do now we making gradual steps on how africa can recognise SL , SL will go the path of the western sahara, where the au recognised it despite oppostion from morroco and morocco cant be compared to the failed state, what makes u think somalia has a bigger say then morocco , somaliland has a good cause a good case a stable goverment elections allot of things going on for it
What a Dhulbahnte like you will never understand is something called principals. Unlike you who will change everything he beliefs for bag of rice.We would never for all the money in the world sell our dreams. We do not go, we want separation, then unification and back and forth. Sxb learn from the iidoors.
The USA, IGAD, EU, UK, Arabs, China, or any other international group does not have any issues with a "3rd Somali state". They have a problem with the 1 Somali state which current exists only on paper. The one that does not have army or provide education or health to its people. The one being guarded by 30k strong african force against al shabab. This is the geopolitical reality that you need to open your eyes to. Somaliland's chances are not based on your useless opinion be it you are pro or anti succsionion. They are based on how hard those "thick headed" iidoors chase the dream. And as the saying goes Get succession or die
Dreams are just that.....dreams.
I don't claim to have any inside information. However, I can ad international affairs, and its as clear as the sin in the sky that nobody, be he man or beast, will recognise sl. This is just my realistic view......not dreams or nightmares.
Khalid.....it will be a cold day in hell before a Hagite politician signs your secessionist application forms.
This is not because of Somali nationalism .....its out of selfish self interest.
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od i am not saying they will but we might even reach a deal with a darood leader in the bunker they pragmatic in the future who knows my point wasnt the hutus will support me or not the point of argument was if we decide to go our separate ways with an agreement from both hargeisa and mogadishu there is nothing the west or egypt can do to stop it, its all in our hands
we are willng to give Somalia and darood anything east of waqdariya and anything east of gumeeys to join fully somalia in exchange for ictraaf if a daarood leader comes to solve the matter he will be confident to do it. as the hutus will be one way out of it we have many cards. the problem is the hutus do not care even for u they just want to use u against me , when firdhiye went to mogadishu they said we welcomed him because we got scared that he might be to close to puntland., for them its just to deraill us but we dont care. really today we stand stronger , there is an easy for sl to get recogntition from the usa its via israel , we just need to find some common grounds and all then we can use their lobby group to get congress to support somaliland the SL recognition is actually in tel aviv it just nobody in SL ever tried hard enough
we are willng to give Somalia and darood anything east of waqdariya and anything east of gumeeys to join fully somalia in exchange for ictraaf if a daarood leader comes to solve the matter he will be confident to do it. as the hutus will be one way out of it we have many cards. the problem is the hutus do not care even for u they just want to use u against me , when firdhiye went to mogadishu they said we welcomed him because we got scared that he might be to close to puntland., for them its just to deraill us but we dont care. really today we stand stronger , there is an easy for sl to get recogntition from the usa its via israel , we just need to find some common grounds and all then we can use their lobby group to get congress to support somaliland the SL recognition is actually in tel aviv it just nobody in SL ever tried hard enough
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Re: Inaa Lilaah Wa Inaa Ilayhi Raaju’uun: Culusow Tells Italian Colonizers Take Your Property Back!
skywalker25 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:16 pmOD,original dervish wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:44 amWhat you ,and so many iidoors, fail to realise is that its not what you sl do, but what the international community want. The world ie IGAD, EU, US, UK, Somalia, Arabs, China will never countenance a third Somali state. You need to get this geopolitiacal reality into your thick heads. Everytime an obscure politician makes a positive statement about sl......its like the second coming for iidoors. Your sl will never be recognised in a million years. I say this as someone who is sympathetic to your secessionist desires.Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:18 pm
thats just wishfull thinking somaliland isnt kurdistan where is a bad gray wolf called turkey to oppose us
we are dealing with a dead republic called somalia nor do kenya and ethiopia oppose our existence
today somalilland have the best of ties, Djibouti is a non factor
the international community isnt also opposed to somaliland the only reason why sl isnt recognised as of now is simply because the west doesnt want to kick down somalia and wanted to keep sl in limbo so in order to give the walanweyns some hope that the old republic can be restored. the usa has always said we shall follow what africa will do now we making gradual steps on how africa can recognise SL , SL will go the path of the western sahara, where the au recognised it despite oppostion from morroco and morocco cant be compared to the failed state, what makes u think somalia has a bigger say then morocco , somaliland has a good cause a good case a stable goverment elections allot of things going on for it
What a Dhulbahnte like you will never understand is something called principals. Unlike you who will change everything he beliefs for bag of rice.We would never for all the money in the world sell our dreams. We do not go, we want separation, then unification and back and forth. Sxb learn from the iidoors.
The USA, IGAD, EU, UK, Arabs, China, or any other international group does not have any issues with a "3rd Somali state". They have a problem with the 1 Somali state which current exists only on paper. The one that does not have army or provide education or health to its people. The one being guarded by 30k strong african force against al shabab. This is the geopolitical reality that you need to open your eyes to. Somaliland's chances are not based on your useless opinion be it you are pro or anti succsionion. They are based on how hard those "thick headed" iidoors chase the dream. And as the saying goes Get succession or die

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Re: Inaa Lilaah Wa Inaa Ilayhi Raaju’uun: Culusow Tells Italian Colonizers Take Your Property Back!
Nacaladi idinku dhacdee Sons of Arabs. Darood and hes arab brother Isaaq. Ina guumeedyaal. First waxaa jira wax la yiraah Maalgashi shirkadaha ajnabiga ah. in your country. Taasoo abuurtaa Jobs and growth of your countries econmy.
China 1991 waxay aheeyd wadab u faqiir ah. 90% Chines people monthly income waxay aheeyd less then 30 dollars..
China maxay uga baxeen Gaajada. Waa invesment from abroad. SHirkadha mobile talfoonada sida Apple xagee ayey ku warshadeeyaan taleefoonadooda. Yes china. Taas micnaheedu maaha in China dhulkeedii laga iibiyey Maraykan.
Our Great Madaxweyne xafidahu allah Xasan sheekh maxmud ee yiri Italian companies are welcome to invest Somalia. Inay beero sameeystaan oo shaqo abuuraan. Canshuur bixiyaan. Waa wanaaag u soo kordhay Somalia. Waayo dhaqaalaha wadanka ayaa kobcaya.
Laangaabta mareexaar halkan ku jirra ee saqajaankii Autismka qabay qabiiliistaha ahaa CBB mr Xaarmaajo ku riyoonaya inuu soo laabto. Saxiibayaal nacaladi idinku dhacdee Wake up.. saqajaankaas sooma noqonayo.
China 1991 waxay aheeyd wadab u faqiir ah. 90% Chines people monthly income waxay aheeyd less then 30 dollars..
China maxay uga baxeen Gaajada. Waa invesment from abroad. SHirkadha mobile talfoonada sida Apple xagee ayey ku warshadeeyaan taleefoonadooda. Yes china. Taas micnaheedu maaha in China dhulkeedii laga iibiyey Maraykan.
Our Great Madaxweyne xafidahu allah Xasan sheekh maxmud ee yiri Italian companies are welcome to invest Somalia. Inay beero sameeystaan oo shaqo abuuraan. Canshuur bixiyaan. Waa wanaaag u soo kordhay Somalia. Waayo dhaqaalaha wadanka ayaa kobcaya.
Laangaabta mareexaar halkan ku jirra ee saqajaankii Autismka qabay qabiiliistaha ahaa CBB mr Xaarmaajo ku riyoonaya inuu soo laabto. Saxiibayaal nacaladi idinku dhacdee Wake up.. saqajaankaas sooma noqonayo.
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