Why do the Dhulbahante Dislike or Hate the Isaaq , what gives.

[original dervish]

They dont want to be controlled by another qabiil esp an entity that tries to impose something by force and by nefariously supporting some subclans against the other. They are also pro somalia for the most part, and see isaaqs rebellion and siding against the central gov as treason, and somaliland being a symbol of that. I dont think its something unique to isaaqs, if mj's did the same to them they would react the same way. Most qabiils dont want to feel like they're being dominated by another qabiil, its either a unitary gov they approve or a group like alshabab, its the same 68 iq zero sum thinking that has destroyed Somalia, and it has also destroyed the somaliland project.

There is no indication that the Somaliland government supports one clan over another; it has extended support to all Dhulbahante clans equally. They have empowered those who align with their government, but this does not imply any animosity towards other clans. It is interesting that you mention the desire to avoid being controlled by another clan. If being part of Somaliland equates to being controlled by another clan, does that mean when Daahir Rayaale was leading Somaliland, everyone was under the control of a different clan? Similarly, does Ahmed Madoobe fall under the control of another clan because Culusow is his president?

The notion that one refuses to be governed by another clan is as absurd as advocating for Somaliweyn or the unity of Somalia and Somaliland solely to keep the Darood or Harti clans politically united. If one cannot share a state with Puntland, this logic seems inconsistent. Additionally, when you pay tribute to Culusow and state that Laascaanood falls under his jurisdiction, does this mean you are governed by another clan since Culusow is not your kin?

I find this sort of reasoning difficult to comprehend walahi.

Dhulbahante wa dadkegi but to be honest they can’t govern themselves, they don’t have the capability to build a state dad cadkoga gosan kara maha period!
Personally i think they should be part of puntland.

We will succeed or fail on our own merits.
So far everything is going tremendously well....alhamdulilah!

Everyday new investment and long lost diaspora folks are pouring into the Holy city. Security is tight and you can walk freely in every part of Lascaanood till the early hours of the morning.

The only issue is the proliferation of alcohol and drunkards. It was the policy of sl to flood SSC regions with drugs and liquor. However, this issue is being tackled by specialist police units

[theyuusuf143]

Does that include your Dhulbahante daughter?

This is a silly and pointless topic.
The Dhulbahante nation has decided to go it alone.
Hate doesn't come into it. We believe our legitimate aspirations are best served by the creation of a Dhulbahante federal state aka Khaatumo.
Whether or not we succeed only time will tell.

So you want to plant terrorism between two civilisations. Aren't you Harti why not just stay with the dhabayaco. What's your problem with them. Your situation is kud Ka guur oo qanjo u guur. Man take it easy the dhabayaco are the copy paste of the isaaqs. They don't want this huttu federal thing in their backyard. You have no option but to follow their instructions.

Let it go sxb.......you tried to stop us and failed.
You lost the genocidal war in spectacular fashion in the calamitous defeat at the historic battle of Goojacaade.

Focus on your deteriorating economy and political crises. You don't have time and resources to make trouble against us.

you really do love genocide , it's a weird obsession , but I wish god to accept your prayers. my great great great awaaw sheikh daahir was a saint. What we predict usually happens. Markan faaliyey malayuukhad baa kuusoo baxday. Afka faaliyaasha malayukhadu waa dangerous. Belaaya higleh. By the way You didn't answer my question. Why don't you stay with your brothers ???? Did they attempted to wipe you out too.

[original dervish]

We are still with our brothers sxb.
We will have to wait and see if your predictions come true.

[theyuusuf143]

We are still with our brothers sxb.
We will have to wait and see if your predictions come true.

Stay there waxaanad aqoon faraha Hala gelin, somaliland is okay with puntland. Dameero iyo Iyo fardo na dhex orda toona taag uma hayno.

[theyuusuf143]

Wax alaale wixii puntland iyo somaliland dhexdooda laga sameeya waa danger to the humanity.

[nextplaya]

Not worried about that shb. Most of their hate comes from their front line tribes. Gonna come back to this

I'm not giving them back anything they lost. Bihi gave permanently up the big deterrence we had on them for 30 years, more land.

When Puntland chased Rayalle, it was not humiliating to us as a tribe. Kidnapping of Somaliland soldiers definitely is. We should occupy their frontline tribes. All I care about is a buffer.

Frontline haters become good pets under Somailand or cowards that runned away from the big bad idoor. The day after Bihi loses the elction, he should start liberating front line towns. Dalai lama Cirro is more skilled than Qudhmiy. But too weak too timid to resume the war against faqash.

[Khalid Ali]

i doubt dalai lama would fight against the darooods he didnt fight against the darood when he was 20 years old what makes u think he will fight agains them when he 75 years old u need a guy like fasal who is reckless if u want to get rid of biixi and want to expand into the darood teritories

[original dervish]

These two clowns really made my day and gave me a good laugh today.

We have smashed iidoor power and demoralised their population.

Now they chatting about expanding into Darood lands.
What planet do these pesky iidoor inhabit?
La La Land.

[Khalid Ali]

u might have won the battle in august , but the war is far from over any moment a war can happen lets hope for u that u a can keep both of ur feets on the ground

[original dervish]

Listen sxb......don't make me post your old comical Ali posts from last year.

You remember the nonsense you used to post about the war? Let me remind you.

1) You captured Gen. Faisal's house.
2) The Garaads were surrendering to SL.
3) Dhulbahante had run out if bullets
4) sl had captured south Lascaanood and were advancing to the centre of the Holy city.



Sxb....we don't give a damn about sl and iidoor.
We've achieved all of our objectives, militarily, politically and economically. We have nothing to gain by smashing you up again. We value the lives of our tribesmen.

[theyuusuf143]

These two clowns really made my day and gave me a good laugh today.

We have smashed iidoor power and demoralised their population.

Now they chatting about expanding into Darood lands.
What planet do these pesky iidoor inhabit?
La La Land.

We have been expanding into daarood lands for generations. Heer waxaanu gaadhnay habrahayagu Ku turtamaan dhulboob. Dhulbahante , cagdheer, dhabayaco, mareexaan. One by one baanu weligiin ba idiin wasi jirnay. Xoogaa Naf yarbaaba idin gashay ayaamahan. Laakiin waa u baahnayn to smell the coffee. Hada we became more prepared , less confused . Our target peaple are identified , and we are on the offensive and racially motivated for first time since the 1980s.

[Khalid Ali]

Listen sxb......don't make me post your old comical Ali posts from last year.

You remember the nonsense you used to post about the war? Let me remind you.

1) You captured Gen. Faisal's house.
2) The Garaads were surrendering to SL.
3) Dhulbahante had run out if bullets
4) sl had captured south Lascaanood and were advancing to the centre of the Holy city.



Sxb....we don't give a damn about sl and iidoor.
We've achieved all of our objectives, militarily, politically and economically. We have nothing to gain by smashing you up again. We value the lives of our tribesmen.

the garaads were surrounded in februari 13 ur garaad made a video that a gunshut was fired. through a window we have killed ur best poet according to you kediye jamac , but other sources say he was killed by bahararsame ur ugaadhyahan militia and they want to pin it on Somaliland. the garaad would have surrendered really if we had pushed a bit harded they would have raised the white flag.
SL did capture all of south lascanood by march all these things happend and are historic facts \
but fair enough we give credit where its due ,, But you won the battle for now but wh says we gonne leave u alone we gone regroup we gomne re organise and we will come with a plan b as we always do

u havent achieved anything u have removed the Somaliland army from laascanood so what big freaking deal u act as if u brought Somalia to Somaliland pre 2007 we also had no control over laascanood remmber laascanood doesnt belong to us it belongs to u , u dont have anything we own u also didnt achieve anythin economically we heard garaad jamac beg his kin to send money u dont have any source of income buntlant pays firdhisyes salary u now begging the same guy that u acussed of aiding Somaliland ismaciil cumar geele.

[original dervish]

Sxb......you're a snet OG...don't embarass yourself like this. Sl aint never coming back.....we both know this.
Goojacaade is burnt into the souls of the iidoors.

You and your compatriots used to boast openly that SSC was iidoor land, and that the Dhulbahante were your chattels.

We have established a municipality to govern lascaanood that will soon start to collect taxes.
We already receive our share of tbe foreign aid directly.
We doing just fine.......alhamdulilah!

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Soomaalida waa dad qabiiil. Nin waliba wuxuu Loyal u yahay qabiilkiisa. Dhulbahante iyo isaaq waxba iskuma aha. Waa darood iyo isaaq. Britian ayaa na adoonsatay sidaa darteed walaalo ayaa gaal futo cad naga dhigay wax soconaya maaha.

Isaaaq waa jabeen. Dagaalkii ugu danbeeyey guusha waxay raacday Dhulbahante.. Isaaq waa gabdho dagaal ma yaqaaniin. Waa dadkii 29 janaayo 1991 hargeysa iyp burco soo galay oo aan xitaa single isaaq town qabsan ilaa USC ay siyaad barre dawladisii riday 26 janaayo 1991.

Isaaqoow nacaladi idinku dhacdee stay isaaqland.

[Khalid Ali]

haa sax wa sax daarood iyo hawiye na shaqo isku ma laha jubbaland wa in lugu dara kiiniya oo ogadeen shaqo kuma laha hawiyaha bantuga oo wa in dhulkooda loo gooye sidaaso kale wa in buntiland na dhulkoooda loo jara sababto ah daarood iyo hawiye shaqo isku ma laha wa labba qabil oo kale duwan oo kale jiha ah weeye , sido kale dadka aan afsomaliga ba ku hadlin in dal gaar ah noqdaan wa sax sida qawwmiyada may may, hawiyaha bantuga oo kaliya aya ku so hadhaya hogoga ugandheeska

marka jirto talyaani ba na wada gumeystey ma shaqeyneyse wa in la kala qo quba