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Why does not the sadat nation amend its outdated constitution, allowing all iidoor subclans, each and every habar fulaan, assume power for a fixed period of time, say, four or five years, on a rotating basis. Surely, such arrangements will significantly reduce the chances for this seemingly never ending political/clan turmoil that has long proved the Achilles heels for the iidoor race.
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Tyrant Bixi is a shoe in for another term in office.
He controls all the levers of power and has the financial elite behind him.

The Garxajis are a major clan......the historical leaders of the iidoors. However, in recent years they have been humiliated and marginalised by the HA/ HJ criminal alliance......clans that they would consider beneath them.

Once Tyrant Bixi installs his criminal regime for a second term, I expect Garxajis to bring the curtain down on sl.
Don't forget the Garxajis have already formed their independent militias and have gone to war against the Tyrant Bixi regime. This is not hypothetical......it is fact.

In any iidoor civil war Dhulbahante should back Garxajis, after extracting painful concessions of course.
The Awdalites are poised to declare independence from sl.......once the iidoor civil war begins I expect them to openly pledge their loyalty to Mogadishu.

In the meantime Dhulbahante should do nothing that would ignite further conflict with the iidoors.
Now is the time to sit back and watch sl self destruct.

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:53 am
Khalid Ali wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:36 am ina bixii isnt the product of siilaanyo , siilaanyo at first didnt even want him to run and siilaanyo wanted to run him self remember when they had a fall out i think it was back in 2024 2015 eventually he caved and endorsed him and that made xirsi run away from kulmiye

ina bixii and siilaanyo were both ministers in ina cigaals govermnet they were on equal footing the only time siilanyo was the superior of ina biixi was during the SNM when siilaanyo was the snm chair person and ina bxii was a commander of the SNM . and during the 2010s he was then the chairperson of the party and Siilaanypo president
Politically he was , muuse has always been a good leader in the SNM military wing. But he has never dreamed to be a political leader he was not even interested about politucs until silanyo came. The number one isaaq political leaders have always been cigaal or siilaanyo. That's history

Today we are facing different challenges , as a HJ I believe cirro should be voted to lead us. To unify all isaaqs against the faqash daarood enemies. No isaaq is more capable to take this challenge than the garxajis
Horta Muuse has been engaged in the political arena since the early 1990s. he was the guurti head of the SNM, It is perplexing to witness the spread of inaccuracies regarding his history, particularly when it is stated that he was introduced to politics by Siilaanyo, who served as the Minister of Finance during the initial government of Cigaal. Such assertions are fundamentally flawed, given Muuse's established political tenure prior to Siilaanyo’s influence and was the interior and defense Minister of Cigaals first goverment in the 1990s .

Furthermore, one must consider how Ciiro proposes to address the complex issues we face with the Darood and Walanweyn factions, specifically in relation to the contentious matter of the bunker. It is crucial to question the effectiveness of Ciiro, who has rarely, if ever, publicly articulated a defense of Somaliland’s interests against Walanweyn. How can we trust in his capacity to advocate for our quest for independence when he has not taken a stand against those who oppose our sovereignty? It is indeed troubling to suggest that he could marshal a defense for Somaliland when his silence on critical issues raises doubts about his commitment. I challenge you to present me with any record—be it a video or otherwise—where Ciiro articulates the notion that Walanweyn are our eternal adversaries and emphasizes the necessity of confronting them on all fronts.

Additionally, if the intention is to seek representation from the Garxajis community and to uphold the sentiments of those who may not favor Walanweyn, why not consider Faisal, who embodies those very principles?
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Any dhuloos/dooroos perspective concerning iidoor internal affairs, must be, invariably, taken with a healthy dose of suspicion.
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original dervish wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:38 am Tyrant Bixi is a shoe in for another term in office.
He controls all the levers of power and has the financial elite behind him.

The Garxajis are a major clan......the historical leaders of the iidoors. However, in recent years they have been humiliated and marginalised by the HA/ HJ criminal alliance......clans that they would consider beneath them.

Once Tyrant Bixi installs his criminal regime for a second term, I expect Garxajis to bring the curtain down on sl.
Don't forget the Garxajis have already formed their independent militias and have gone to war against the Tyrant Bixi regime. This is not hypothetical......it is fact.

In any iidoor civil war Dhulbahante should back Garxajis, after extracting painful concessions of course.
The Awdalites are poised to declare independence from sl.......once the iidoor civil war begins I expect them to openly pledge their loyalty to Mogadishu.

In the meantime Dhulbahante should do nothing that would ignite further conflict with the iidoors.
Now is the time to sit back and watch sl self destruct.

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First and foremost, you Daarood, in particular the dhulbahante it appears you possess a limited understanding of how the Isaaq navigate their political landscape. Despite centuries of coexistence, your grasp of our political dynamics remains superficial. Somaliland's integrity will not be compromised for the sake of a singular political position, no matter how high its stakes. Do you recall Siilaanyo’s assertion, made in the wake of his electoral victory? He proclaimed, "I will not fight," and yet, eight years later, he ascended to the presidency while Ina Rayaale was divested of power.

Furthermore, the notion of a unified Garxajis identity is a misapprehension. Take, for instance, the incident involving an individual from the Ciidagalle clan oofwareeenwho ventured to go'daWeyn his choice to engage in conflict there raises questions. Why did he not confront issues within his own territory in Massalaha hargeisa ? The answer lies in the reality that such behaviors are simply not tolerated in the major towns of Somaliland—be it Burco, Hargeisa, Ceerigabo, Berbera, or Gabiley.

Moreover, the Berbera-Wajaale corridor is dominantly controlled by the HabaraWal clan and the most powerful clan in Somaliland, signifying that the economic vitality of our nation is largely influenced by this particular group. Even if turmoil were to erupt across the nation, Somaliland would continue to function independently; you are aware of this, are you not?

In Somaliland, we uphold the principles of consensus and cooperation, emphasizing the collective good. Moreover, it is unlikely that the Ciidagalle would oppose the regime of Ina Biixi, for Mooge harbors aspirations to succeed Biixi once his term concludes.
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Re: Muuse biixi should retire as biden

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Khaalid that qurjille knows a lot about somaliland politics than you. The good thing is I won't allow you to destroy our country. You will be unseated and we gonna enlist thousands of your youth to engage war in the east and West of our land. If you are man enough come to jiidali to defend the grave of your ancestor . Garxajis will lead isaaq , and you have the choice to choose between Cirro or waraabe. Some of muse biixi policies will be implemented but he won't be in charge by the end this year. That's my final decision. And you know habarjeclo Will do it. No none sense.
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We will even cancel the MOU if it's threat to our long term isaaq economy interests.
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Cirro waa nin jilicsan is not an excuse, Only islaantiisa uunbaa og jileeciisa. Muuseba tough guy buu filinka Ku metelayey and he is defeated . Weliba a qurjuules defeated him. The guy is so miskiin we didn't even fired one round from Our PM 21 Grads. He just kept our army in their base while the faqash daarood enemies were mobilising against them . Muse and kahin are lucky to be alive. They should be killed for treason.
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And u think ciiro will fair better then biixi when he never uttered a single threat against the isaaq enemies in his entire political career give me ina biixi any time with all his short comings and even his defeat against the qurjiiles had ciiro been in power I think u would even fled away from caynabo at least muse keeps. Building the army sending more people to the front . Anigu garxajis ma diidani they are probably closer to me then they are two you for they have mothered me and my fathers mother is garxajis and my grandfathers mother is garxajis reer gobdoon I am probably 75 garxajis then I am habar awal in terms of the blood in my veins . How ever ciiro wa nin jilicssn wadanka a looma dhiibayo and the decsion belongs to habar awal who ever habar awal decides to lead leads we forced siilaanyo to sit down and let ina rayaale rule we then said to siilaanyo u will lead and told ina rayaale to sit down . We told Abdurahman Tuur that his term is two years and we made the shir happen in borama we then wrote the constitution we then brought ina biixi. And ina biixi will only leave when we tell him to leave how ever the grand jury of the subeeriyadu think that it is better for him to stay in power and finish another term and calala then another leader can emerge from any clan it’s not about clan somaliland majirto mar baan leeyahay. If that is the case wasakhgali qurjiile arab ayub toljecle Akishe all wait in turn xita hy had a president. It’s actually Haday garxajis noqoto its ciidagalle turn ma fahantay it was sheikh yusuf sheikh Ibrahim who told habarjeclo to sit down and they behaved in 2003. Marka sheeko yiroowe hala iman meesha
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If you want a civil war against me and the garxajis you are welcome. Intra fighting is Oki . It happens. All I am telling you is your time is over brother. And i am willing to cut your neck.
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I never said i want a civil war. Who said anything about civil war. Who said that . All I said is Somaliland isn’t going to elect a wadani person as president there is going to be free and fair elections with international observers and ina biixi is going to win. If you defeat him we will bow are head we won’t be sore losers or throw tantrum we will not be destructive but we will do eve thing to be opposition with in the legal framework. But it won’t get to that ur free to vote for wadani it’s fine if u do that it is good for u . But we will not support that and the sadaat nation will prevail we are against clanism or any sort of nepotism and do not believe it’s a clan turn to rule we are democracy and we support individuals and the best man to lead.
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We habarjeclos believe in Isaaqism, that's our orthodox religion. We believe that this is the t right time we go against you in favour of the garxajis , and we will do it , for sure . We have the reason to do so.

All these party names makes no sense for us. What makes sense for us is each isaaq particular group to have the Rights to rule their country and do what ever they want against any one. I wonder why you are not killing the jidwaaq and qudhunbiirsi. Either we fight against each an other or you fight against the enemies near you.
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For me as an Ciidagale man I don't want either Biixi or Cirro, we have a young and ready made leader in Mayor Abdikarim Mooge who can reach out to our compatriots across various sub clans......don't forget Somaliland has a largely youthful population so why is our political class dominated by senile old men?

Yusufoow all HJ whether muxaafid or mucaarid wants ina Biixi to win I bet...Xirsi Gaab vs Maxamed Kaahin vs Maxamuud Xaashi is the future battle
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