As an ultra right wing isaaqist,. I support Hassan sheikh.

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Re: As an ultra right wing isaaqist,. I support Hassan sheikh.

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Murax wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:07 am Tbh the Qabiliste in me supports Khalid Ali, but the Somali Wadani in me supports theYuusuf here. Why? Khalid doesn’t have this inferiority acting like a liberated former slave Cuqdad complex towards Darood that TheYuusuf has. To him all Italian Somalia is the same, Hawiye, Darood, D&M.

The reason I support theYuusuf is in general for the sake of Somalis I support him embracing the whole IRIR complex, being team with his Hawoye brothers so it could be a step towards Somalis just moving on once and for all. Khalid Ali’s mindset is more dangerous for Somalia overall. Well done TheYuusuf :up:
I agree more with you than Khalid so the feeling is mutual. We are both your enemies I am just more direct . I know my enemies are daarood , not hawiye . He believes you are all the same. From military point of view that's a disaster for me. I can handle a bunch of dooros. But not a team of dooros and huttuus plus eelay and sankadhuudhi. That's overwhelming for the whole republic. :lol:
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Re: As an ultra right wing isaaqist,. I support Hassan sheikh.

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In any case I would consider to surrender to a forces like that is if their flag is black not blue.
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The yusuuf ur a bit a novice in politics
Money can’t buy you recognition well in the case of South Sudan it can be if u have oil


But recogntion is more powerful then money today for example the bunker government threatened to stop the Ethiopia and fly dubai airlines just because they threatens to stop the so called Ethiopia and emeraati govt caved in . They removed somaliland form their destination and call it Somalia they call haegeisa berbera now Somalia . Why because the bunker has recognition it’s so powerful just with one threat Ethiopia and the emirates switched and there is nothing u can do we are powerless because we have no recognition. Adiguna u want to chase some more money we have enough money if there is something we are good at is how to make money but we dont know how to get recogntion so what is the lesson the lesson is that recogntion is way more powerful and more significant then something like money
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Re: As an ultra right wing isaaqist,. I support Hassan sheikh.

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:01 pm
Murax wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:07 am Tbh the Qabiliste in me supports Khalid Ali, but the Somali Wadani in me supports theYuusuf here. Why? Khalid doesn’t have this inferiority acting like a liberated former slave Cuqdad complex towards Darood that TheYuusuf has. To him all Italian Somalia is the same, Hawiye, Darood, D&M.

The reason I support theYuusuf is in general for the sake of Somalis I support him embracing the whole IRIR complex, being team with his Hawoye brothers so it could be a step towards Somalis just moving on once and for all. Khalid Ali’s mindset is more dangerous for Somalia overall. Well done TheYuusuf :up:
I agree more with you than Khalid so the feeling is mutual. We are both your enemies I am just more direct . I know my enemies are daarood , not hawiye . He believes you are all the same. From military point of view that's a disaster for me. I can handle a bunch of dooros. But not a team of dooros and huttuus plus eelay and sankadhuudhi. That's overwhelming for the whole republic. :lol:

Exactly we are giving Khalid Ali the answers to the test and be doesn’t even know! He can ally with Hawiye and you guys can enjoy doing bah dil to Jabarti the rest of your days. It will suck for me but it means Somalia becomes a functioning state I’ll take it.
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Re: As an ultra right wing isaaqist,. I support Hassan sheikh.

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Adeer nin walba goofkiisa haka taliyo. Inta arsenal dhulka qabsanayso. I am a realist , I don't believe ictiraaf nor do I think Somalia will be a functioning state.

Hawiye iyo daarood na dhul Isaaq kama talin karaan. Inaguna uma talin karno. The alternative is very obvious. Nimankan ay qadaadweyntu la dagaalamayaan will eventually take over.
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Re: As an ultra right wing isaaqist,. I support Hassan sheikh.

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Dear Murax,

I believe that the Yusuuf have little desire to share a country with the Hawiye, the Daarood, or Somalia as a whole. The issue, however, lies in his reluctance to take the necessary steps toward achieving diplomatic recognition—a cause I am fully committed to pursuing. He seems content with the current status quo, existing as a de facto state, and avoids confronting the Hawiye for their anti-Somaliland stance because he believes they can be leveraged against the Daarood. His animosity toward the Daarood surpasses that toward the Hawiye.

As for me, I view the Daarood and the Hawiye differently. I harbor neither love nor hatred for anyone; my focus is on achieving my objective by any means necessary, even if that involves manipulating Somalis in Walanweynistan—be they Hawiye or Daarood. I see no reason to antagonize the Daarood, despite their historical enmity with my ancestors, for those battles belong to the past. Today, I am alive, and my fight is for the Somaliland Republic. Our true political opponents in this struggle are the Hawiye, and we must do everything in our power to destroy them once and for all and take back what is our , even if it so force them to the negotation table and and to force them to sign the divorce papers everything is on the table.

hada ila mika xumaddi MOU ba haysa ha sii yare hayso
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I have no desire to share any thing with any one,. But I would gladly welcome any thing that can unite all Somalis by force. The fact is neither hawiye nor daarood is able to do that. The only living Somalis that are capable to do so are none other than the Islamists. Mark my words.


By the way I don't dislike all daaroods, definitely not mareexans , because I don't border with them. But I am 100% against to share anything with dhulbahante , and I think I am right to come to that conclusion . If something doesn't work it should be stopped. That's the logical solution.

I believe generally all Somalis are against Somaliland. Because they are loosers with high hopes, and if you ask any Somali why they are against Somaliland. Hawiye are the most logical ones,. They just a want united Somali whose their kabca is muqdishu . The daaroods , ciise or qudhunbiirsay have 100% other reasons. To be honest I never disliked hawiye all my life. At the same time I don't trust them. It's right to not trust a man who whose capable to kill his own mum.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:13 am I have no desire to share any thing with any one,. But I would gladly welcome any thing that can unite all Somalis by force. The fact is neither hawiye nor daarood is able to do that. The only living Somalis that are capable to do so are none other than the Islamists. Mark my words.


By the way I don't dislike all daaroods, definitely not mareexans , because I don't border with them. But I am 100% against to share anything with dhulbahante , and I think I am right to come to that conclusion . If something doesn't work it should be stopped. That's the logical solution.

I believe generally all Somalis are against Somaliland. Because they are loosers with high hopes, and if you ask any Somali why they are against Somaliland. Hawiye are the most logical ones,. They just a want united Somali whose their kabca is muqdishu . The daaroods , ciise or qudhunbiirsay have 100% other reasons. To be honest I never disliked hawiye all my life. At the same time I don't trust them. It's right to not trust a man who whose capable to kill his own mum.


In all respects, the Hawiye demonstrate a clear preference for the Darood jabarti over the Isaaq Sadaat people . Disregard the prevailing narratives; the reality is that we only roused them in 1989 to combat the late General Afweyne, prior to which they had difficulty accepting the notion that a Darood could be vanquished.

The Marexaan, though not inherently ill-intentioned, harbor an impractical and detrimental vision of a union between Somalia and Somaliland aka the cancerous Union . Among the Darood, the Marexaan stand out for their amiability, with elders who uphold a commendable cultural heritage. It is particularly ironic that you hold Al-Shabaab in such high esteem while yourself being non-Muslim.

Somalis uniformly oppose Somaliland because they recognize its significant potential. They fear that Somaliland's emergence would eclipse them in every aspect, an outcome they find unacceptable. The Darood exhibit envy, desiring our position, while the Hawiye, harboring jealousy, regard us as the sole bearers of solutions to their problems.

The objections of the Darood to Somaliland are primarily tribal. Should we relinquish our claims to eastern Sool and eastern Sanaag, I believe they would be more amenable to recognizing our sovereignty. However, certain hardliners oppose Somaliland merely out of a pathological enmity towards anything associated with the Isaaq Sadaat people. Conversely, factions such as the Marexaan might be more pragmatic. They oppose concessions involving Wasakhgali and Qurjile lands to Somalia, fearing that such moves might still result in our achieving our goals.

The Hawiye, under no circumstances, will support Somaliland. Their fear lies in the prospect of the Darood abandoning them should we achieve international recognition. They are also apprehensive that the aid package would diminish if Somaliland were to depart from the cancerous union. Furthermore, there is a belief that we fund Al-Shabaab, and they view our recognition as a reward for Somaliland, which they strongly oppose.

It is ironic that the Isaaq's sole significant political position came under Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke and Igal, in 1967. Adan Cadde opposed an Isaaq Prime Minister twice, asserting bluntly that the position belonged to the Darood.

In 2012, Professor Samatar suggested that the premiership be offered to the northerners. Ulusow's response was that the Darood were troublesome, thus necessitating the premiership be granted to them the jebertis . He hoped that patience would prevail within the Somali state, built as it is on the perseverance of the Dir people.

Despite my personal aversion to Farmaajo, it is noteworthy that in 2020, he stated that if Muse signed the reunification act between Somalia and Somaliland, he would relinquish the presidency to Muse. It means that he had an idea of what a sacrafice is for Cancerous Union , and that should be respected . the Ignoble Hutus want to keep the seat and give no concessions at all.

all in all I believe that all Walanweyn are antagonistic towards us and our country. To achieve our objectives for Somaliland, we must focus on advancing our cause while trying to undermine them on all fronts
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:13 am I have no desire to share any thing with any one,. But I would gladly welcome any thing that can unite all Somalis by force. The fact is neither hawiye nor daarood is able to do that. The only living Somalis that are capable to do so are none other than the Islamists. Mark my words.


By the way I don't dislike all daaroods, definitely not mareexans , because I don't border with them. But I am 100% against to share anything with dhulbahante , and I think I am right to come to that conclusion . If something doesn't work it should be stopped. That's the logical solution.

I believe generally all Somalis are against Somaliland. Because they are loosers with high hopes, and if you ask any Somali why they are against Somaliland. Hawiye are the most logical ones,. They just a want united Somali whose their kabca is muqdishu . The daaroods , ciise or qudhunbiirsay have 100% other reasons. To be honest I never disliked hawiye all my life. At the same time I don't trust them. It's right to not trust a man who whose capable to kill his own mum.
Not only would hawiye kill their own mum, but are, according to urban legend, the only skinny clan ever known to have developed a taste for eating their young.
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Only a gaal knows the capabilities of the Islamists. There is no doubt what so ever that they would eventually take over. By the time they reach our gates I won't fire one bullet. I would rather leave every thing ironed and intact . You already invited them the moment we signed that MoU . I support Hassan sheikh to prolong my secular lifespan. And avoid conflicts in the heart of my country. Hassan sheikh is a big gaal probably munaafaq.

Let every Somali ictiraafist, federalist or centralist enjoy his little freedom before the yuuj wa majuuj. Because none of us is achieving any of their desired results , in any way. I would say only the none secular centralists Will achieve their goals.
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Ustaad Barbarossa. Run away from the hawiye. Human Life is nothing for them. They get used to death.
Any fat iidoor or dhabayaco should never risk himself to be eaten by hawiye. :lol:
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Al-Shabaab will never possess the strength to seize control of all of former Italian Somalia, but they will remain a formidable force to be reckoned with. While they might succeed in capturing Galkayo, they will not penetrate the heartland of the Puntland region. I support their efforts to undermine Culusow and destroy him, for he has now become my adversary. Though Al-Shabaab may later turn into an enemy, it is important to make one thing clear to the West: they are backing the wrong side by supporting the weak transitional government entrenched in the bunker.
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it won't take them months to overrun the Southies. Dhabayaco will try to resist. Then they will call the qurjiiles who are indebted to them , because they liberated their asss from the iidoors. Its an obligation.

The problem is qurjiiles never fought against men who have 75 Virgin wives in aakhiro. So I don't think the harti forces can withstand against the youth.

We iidoors should just collect the keys , including the key of the ex villa Morgan. And hand to them. We should even memorise some nashiidas to safe our skin.
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you ever estemate the shabaab irhaabi yes they are far mor organised then the walanweyns since they are useless but if they face a force such as Ethiopia they become Puzzys i also think the Buglanders can defend their land its just the eeley and and the ignoble hutus need assistance from the african union troops to defend their land
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I would rather call my brother who is a sheikh, than try to fight against them

Me: waar bal Naga af garo qoomkan
My brother:. Alxamdulilah
Sister: can I wear my bras !
The brother: itaqillah , that's haram
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