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you're just twisting things Murax, we haven't sold our souls to Xabashi we merely reached a win win agreement with our neighbour. No emotions are involved it's just self interest at play. Why can't Ethiopia have a normal relationship with Somaliland the same way it does with another Somali majority country called Djibouti. Murax it's only your failed state Somalia that doesn't have a normal relationship with Ethiopia because.......you're a failed state. Don't project your failures and insecurities on towards us sxb

To sum up the whole thing Somalia iyo Ethiopia ba Somaliland inay wasaan bay rabaan. The only difference waxa weeyaan . Somalia is like " open your legs now" and Ethiopia is like " would you open your legs please" Somaliland na way is macaanaynaysaa. Wuxuba waa intaas it's not a rocket science.

Sirtu ismacaanaynta bay Ku jirta. Jamhuuuriyada badhida weyn waxan leeyahay naasahana aad u rux siilkaagana Ka adkaw.

Ya akhi aziz, Ustaad Murax, reer Somaliland, have (wrongly or rightly), for sometime now, been nursing a perpetual grievances against wanlaweynians. Marka wax layaab ah maaha hadii ey, in conformity with ancient skinny proverb "rag ciil cadaabta ka doorey" obstinately insist on spreading their camber, so to speak, ever so wider, not so much to please axmaaro qandhiciley as it is to spite that more despised kin of theirs, i.e., the qadaadweyns.

barbarossa wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:22 am Ya akhi aziz, Ustaad Murax, reer Somaliland, have (wrongly or rightly), for sometime now, been nursing a perpetual grievances against wanlaweynians. Marka wax layaab ah maaha hadii ey, in conformity with ancient skinny proverb "rag ciil cadaabta ka doorey" obstinately insist on spreading their camber, so to speak, ever so wider, not so much to please axmaaro qandhiciley as it is to spite that more despised kin of theirs, i.e., the qadaadweyns.

Pride and hatred......these are the two emotions that motivate iidoor behavior.

In a way it's good for Somalia that these coons remain in political limbo for another 30 + years.

Imagine how dangerous these maniacs could be if they had an astute political strategy instead of just banging their collective heads against a wall.

don't tempt us please OD

Dear Murax and OD ,The situation dramatically shifted with the advent of Abiy Ahmed's leadership. When Abiy first assumed power, he harboured aspirations of uniting Somalia and Somaliland, aiming to resolve one of the region's most protracted and deep-rooted conflicts.

However, he quickly realised that even the mere notion of Farmaajo visiting Somaliland was out of the question. Consequently, he joined the discussions between Somalia and Somaliland, hosted in Djibouti By the great Geele. Yet, it became apparent that this issue was far more complex than the Eritrea-Ethiopia conflict. The discord between Somalia and Somaliland is deeply entrenched, with neither side willing to compromise—Somalia remains resolute against recognising an independent Somaliland, while Somaliland is equally adamant in rejecting reunification at all cost . Of course, this excludes the Qurjiile, but that is a separate matter entirely.

It seems you are clinging to the past the era of Meles Zenawi, we have discussed this before when Ethiopia adeptly maintained amicable relations with all Somali factions leaders and groups , ensuring a delicate balance between Somaliland, Somalia, and Puntland and the warlords . Meles mastered the art of diplomacy, winning the respect of all parties. Even in Mogadishu, Meles was not despised, as he cleverly provided arms while refusing to officially recognise Somaliland, understanding that such an action would provoke the Walanweyn and he would lose his touch in the Bunker.

Meles also maintained favourable relations with both the West and the East, possessing the financial means to exert influence as he pleased. He utilised Djibouti strategically, to demonstrate his ability to isolate Eritrea. However, today’s Ethiopia has shifted allegiances, aligning itself with the BRICS nations, and no longer has the resources or inclination to invest billions in Djibouti. The country has been beleaguered by wars, first against Tigray and now against the Fano in Amhara.

Abiy is in dire need of a respite, which is where the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) comes into play. Somalia, interestingly, assisted Somaliland by pressuring Ethiopia to align with Somaliland in implementing the MoU. Somalia's involvement with Egypt has further complicated matters for Ethiopia. The influence Ethiopia once wielded over Somalia is waning, especially if Ethiopian troops are excluded from the African Union Mission in Somalia (ATMIS). With Egypt asserting its presence in Somalia, Ethiopia is left with little to gain from Somalia and is being nudged towards recognising Somaliland. There is nothing of value left for Ethiopia in Somalia, and Somaliland, a friend, is offering a sea for recognition sort of a deal that holds much promise with little to lose.

Ethiopia could choose to disengage from Somaliland, hoping the Walanweyn might eventually return to its fold, but this would be a strategic miscalculation. Egypt’s presence in Somalia is a sensitive issue for Ethiopia.

Thank you, Bunker.

Murax and his drip drip anti somaliland agenda.

Why dont you give this same advice to your Marexaan, when they are crying for Ethiopians to accept them in Mudug region. You only have to look at all the posts from our resident nutter Voltage, on how wide he wants to spread his butts in the hope the Xabashi pull it out of the Cagdheers and insert into Marexaan. Even his reasoning is why are we left out. Not to mention, your Gedo Marexaan are Ethiopian subjects bar the passport.
The you only need to see the people of both Gedo and Eelay who have come out in support of the Ethiopians, against their own president. In what world would you find a Isaaq man choosing ethiopians over his president?

Then theres the Cagdheer in Kismayo and JigJiga. The FDS government whos daddy is Amisom without whom would cease to exist.


But our resident "impartial observer" Murax, has a problem with Somaliland agreeing to a commercial deal with Ethiopia. Pull the other one. We know a wolf in sheep's clothing, regardless who many sweet words you start with.
Are Isaaq's meant to play on different rules. The SFG has sold the ports, sold the fish and the seas. It's sold the land to foreigners and oil deals. But lets ignore that sheep and point the finger at Somaliland(isaaq's).

I will give you the necessary reply. You are a boon from Gedo and your opinion means nothing.

OD, your coming across like a wh*re who wants her pimp back. Keep it moving bro.

It's not commercial though. Abiy wants to annex Somaliland. And culusaw wants to to destroy Somaliland fabric then annex it. The whole goal is annexation. From both sides.

And they think we are stupid.

We are actually using culusaw as a shield and using abiy as a spear. I support both. May this drama continue for ages. The more Ethiopia and somalia quarrels the more we are upgrading our geopolitical importance.

Sky walker. The thing is walanweyns and koonfurians in general hold us to higher esteem them them selves . They can’t just grasp why would do such a thing . It’s normal for them to bring Ethiopia troops to kill each other to prostitué them selves for gabre . But the moment we seek our interest and it involves xabashi the Somali nationalistic card is used it’s because deep inside they view us that we are better then them and that we should lead by example . The problem is somaliland is tired of setting an example and getting nothing in return we have held talks with walanweyns for 12 f-king years . And no results it’s over now we found ur Achilles heel . No more Murax is telling us that we should work things out with the bunker as if we have not done or tried that path

Markay Ethiopianku inagu soo Kala qabtaana waxaynu taaganahay. Yaa soomaaliyey , iga soo gaaray dad ma joogo miyaa

Markay somalidu inagu soo kala qabtaana , waxaynu taaganahay wayneey gudhee ,

Exactly both sl and Ethiopia are using the mou to weaken Somalia and to have leverage over the bunker . Though now culusow iyo bantugi masar bay u yeedhen xabahiduna don’t like it one bit wa inay kaadh la so baxan marka iyaguna

Well said Khalid.

We been anti Ethiopian from the day the British gave away the Hawd. We gave up a country called Somaliland to join a doomed union with vampires. We went to war with Ethiopia shed blood sweat and tears fighting Ethiopian in 77. What did that get us? Being made refugees in Dulcad and Ethiopia, the same Ethiopia, giving us shelter, which they did not need to do. But here we have our old faqash friends and their slaves playing the violins and the big bad monster Ethiopia.


Yusuf,

As of recently I am more than happy to be part of Ethiopia. I have accepted the benefits to such a relationship. If we can gain our lands in the hawd. The hawd plus Somaliland I would be happy to join Ethiopia in some sort of framework. This would be so sweet in finally putting these haters on a cross. They can then go to hell with their somalia and Somalinimo.
We isaaq’s would prosper business wise far better than the Cagdheer, as we are civilised people. Who knows we may even end up being the new rulers of Ethiopia.

HSM is a civilian leader not a military leader. For as long as he keeps the conflict diplomatic i am confident he can keep Ethopia at bay. Though it was a great chess move from the Villa to have the Egyptians involved as that will force Ethiopia to either retreat or double down, Ethiopia is now looking at the threat of a border conflict with South Somalia and even AS moving into K5. A Somaliland recognition by Ethiopia would be a sucker punch, a move that will only excacerbate the regional tensions as FANO and other groups emerge. Unless Ethiopia champions this bid and talks to their allies in getting them Red Sea access, it will go up against stiff bureaucracy. Somaliland is lucky and cursed to be in such a strategic theatre of powerplay. I don't believe the West would endorse expanding the Israeli conflict to the edge of the Red Sea, which would extremely upset the Arabs. We are not in the days of Axum who had European help to invade Yemen and maintain a colony there.

skywalker25 wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:01 pm Murax and his drip drip anti somaliland agenda.

Why dont you give this same advice to your Marexaan, when they are crying for Ethiopians to accept them in Mudug region. You only have to look at all the posts from our resident nutter Voltage, on how wide he wants to spread his butts in the hope the Xabashi pull it out of the Cagdheers and insert into Marexaan. Even his reasoning is why are we left out. Not to mention, your Gedo Marexaan are Ethiopian subjects bar the passport.
The you only need to see the people of both Gedo and Eelay who have come out in support of the Ethiopians, against their own president. In what world would you find a Isaaq man choosing ethiopians over his president?

Then theres the Cagdheer in Kismayo and JigJiga. The FDS government whos daddy is Amisom without whom would cease to exist.


But our resident "impartial observer" Murax, has a problem with Somaliland agreeing to a commercial deal with Ethiopia. Pull the other one. We know a wolf in sheep's clothing, regardless who many sweet words you start with.
Are Isaaq's meant to play on different rules. The SFG has sold the ports, sold the fish and the seas. It's sold the land to foreigners and oil deals. But lets ignore that sheep and point the finger at Somaliland(isaaq's).

I will give you the necessary reply. You are a boon from Gedo and your opinion means nothing.

OD, your coming across like a wh*re who wants her pimp back. Keep it moving bro.

Still deflecting as usual.
You iidoors are prostituting yourselves to the Xabashis.
Now you've become furious the southerners have shut down your sordid deal.

The iidoors are losing on all fronts, politically, militarily and economically. Sure does suck to be an iidoor right now.

Not really walanweyns said that sl can’t have an dp world investment and we did .and the dp world director told the walanweyns if they own berbera they should come there
We have lost nothing we have gained
We made the bunker sign 7 different defense treaties a defense treaty with turkey where turkey gets all the fish in the sea and oil rights for the Turks to spit in their face and tell them come talk to Ethiopia then they signed one with Egypt now further pushing Ethiopia out and pushing Ethiopia on the side of sl then they signed a treaty with Qatar where Qatar tried to bribe us with 100 million euros hahah the walanweyns have lost it if u ask me this was indeed a master stroke done by ina biixi u lot are all over the place then they brought Egypt then bugland and south western state sided with Ethiopia. And then Ethiopia telling them they are not leaving signing so many treaties and nothing to show for