As Longs As You Are Muslim a Kaafir Will Never Accept You!!
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[quote]more Muslims would realizes that a disbeliever will never accept them unless you are one of them (or they revent into islam) inshaAllah maybe more Muslims would strive harder to be better Muslims and they would not feel embarrassed to Pray in school, work or wearing hijab niqab, showing the Sunnah in ur life, having beard, Going to Friday Prayer or demonstrating when The Honour of our Beloved Prophet of Allah Sayidnaa Mohammed gets Bashed in the most degrading way . Instead Muslims are afraid for disbelievers’ emotions while in fact they are disobeying Allah The creator of All creations and his beloved Prophet Mohamed Sall Allahu Alahy Wsalam[/quote]
Somalilezzz, i wonder what kind of shiit they are feeding you there in arab land? I will put aside my islam critizism for a second and do some justice to this malicious misunderstanding of your own faith. I have no idea where you are referencing all this hatred and intolrance you are preaching above. The truth of the matter is Allah guides whom he wills , but He also teaches some tolerance. In the bottom verses as well as some others you will find Allah calls for patience and peace among those with religious differences.
[quote=Quran=surah 41]34. Nor can goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: Then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!
35. And no one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint,- none but persons of the greatest good fortune[/quote]
[quote=surah16=verse125]Invite all to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for the Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His path, and who receive guidance[/quote].
You see my ignorant somalilezz, Islam has for the most part of history guaranteed non-Muslims full rights with Muslims to their lives, their freedom, and their possessions. Where the notion of Jihad is concerned, My understanding is that Quranic notion of jihad is defensive and involves a principle of proportionality which the need for protection and self -defense must be proportional to the greater danger being avoided. Under this priniciple, The ignorant call for bombing and burning down buildings to dispute a few cartoons is not proportional to a couple of non believers drawing rude pictures. It is unfortunate that you are a blind believer somalilizz, otherwise you wouldn't have been so quick to throw away fundamental islamic principles about tolerance, and peaceful discussion.
with all that said, the quran is a double edged sword most of the time with verses and surahs changing moods from one period to another, but i suppose if your gonna filter and choose the parts you like maybe you should pick the kind verses calling for peace and tolerance.
Somalilezzz, i wonder what kind of shiit they are feeding you there in arab land? I will put aside my islam critizism for a second and do some justice to this malicious misunderstanding of your own faith. I have no idea where you are referencing all this hatred and intolrance you are preaching above. The truth of the matter is Allah guides whom he wills , but He also teaches some tolerance. In the bottom verses as well as some others you will find Allah calls for patience and peace among those with religious differences.
[quote=Quran=surah 41]34. Nor can goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: Then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!
35. And no one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint,- none but persons of the greatest good fortune[/quote]
[quote=surah16=verse125]Invite all to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for the Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His path, and who receive guidance[/quote].
You see my ignorant somalilezz, Islam has for the most part of history guaranteed non-Muslims full rights with Muslims to their lives, their freedom, and their possessions. Where the notion of Jihad is concerned, My understanding is that Quranic notion of jihad is defensive and involves a principle of proportionality which the need for protection and self -defense must be proportional to the greater danger being avoided. Under this priniciple, The ignorant call for bombing and burning down buildings to dispute a few cartoons is not proportional to a couple of non believers drawing rude pictures. It is unfortunate that you are a blind believer somalilizz, otherwise you wouldn't have been so quick to throw away fundamental islamic principles about tolerance, and peaceful discussion.
with all that said, the quran is a double edged sword most of the time with verses and surahs changing moods from one period to another, but i suppose if your gonna filter and choose the parts you like maybe you should pick the kind verses calling for peace and tolerance.
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"If more Muslims would realizes that a disbeliever will never accept them unless you are one of them (or they revent into islam) inshaAllah maybe more Muslims would strive harder to be better Muslims and they would not feel embarrassed to Pray in school, work or wearing hijab niqab, showing the Sunnah in ur life, having beard, Going to Friday Prayer or demonstrating when The Honour of our Beloved Prophet of Allah Sayidnaa Mohammed gets Bashed in the most degrading way."
I have never missed Friday prayers and I'm proud to be a Muslim, maybe sometimes too proud, but the point is, do you really consider to be a Muslim, one has to have a beard, or wear a niqaab? What about the other Sunnah's of the prophet pbuh? He never ate with cutlery (used his own hands), never used technology, modern transportation, never prayed in a modern mosque, or wore clothes like we do today? Jews, Christians, Sikhs, Pagans all do have beards too. Niqaab has always been an Arab custom, pre-and after Islam. This is a typical Wahabi/jihadist philosophy, which it's intent is for illiterate Muslims to conform to things that are outwardly, and has nothing with Ibaadah.
Secondly, why did you and your fellow Wahabis come to the western world? Why did you claim that your fellow Somali Muslims, and other Muslim regimes have mistreated you so badly that you desperately required the so called "gaal" assylum and protection? Why did you accept their citizenship, where you have to a take an oath based on their laws? Why did you accept their welfare, housing and education? Most of these gaalos that you despise have given most Muslims who resettled in their shores an opportunity to learn and build their own lives, mosques and schools. Even more, they offered you similar perks and rights as to their own citizens. Most Muslims in the West are more educated and strife to be better Muslims than those living in "Muslim" countries. How come?
There is too much hate within your own soul, and to use such balatant lies and propoganda of the so called Jihadists will only further hurt your soul and sanity. If you don't like them, leave them, and go to Somaliland, there is peace there. Dont be a hypocrite.
Salaam
"If more Muslims would realizes that a disbeliever will never accept them unless you are one of them (or they revent into islam) inshaAllah maybe more Muslims would strive harder to be better Muslims and they would not feel embarrassed to Pray in school, work or wearing hijab niqab, showing the Sunnah in ur life, having beard, Going to Friday Prayer or demonstrating when The Honour of our Beloved Prophet of Allah Sayidnaa Mohammed gets Bashed in the most degrading way."
I have never missed Friday prayers and I'm proud to be a Muslim, maybe sometimes too proud, but the point is, do you really consider to be a Muslim, one has to have a beard, or wear a niqaab? What about the other Sunnah's of the prophet pbuh? He never ate with cutlery (used his own hands), never used technology, modern transportation, never prayed in a modern mosque, or wore clothes like we do today? Jews, Christians, Sikhs, Pagans all do have beards too. Niqaab has always been an Arab custom, pre-and after Islam. This is a typical Wahabi/jihadist philosophy, which it's intent is for illiterate Muslims to conform to things that are outwardly, and has nothing with Ibaadah.
Secondly, why did you and your fellow Wahabis come to the western world? Why did you claim that your fellow Somali Muslims, and other Muslim regimes have mistreated you so badly that you desperately required the so called "gaal" assylum and protection? Why did you accept their citizenship, where you have to a take an oath based on their laws? Why did you accept their welfare, housing and education? Most of these gaalos that you despise have given most Muslims who resettled in their shores an opportunity to learn and build their own lives, mosques and schools. Even more, they offered you similar perks and rights as to their own citizens. Most Muslims in the West are more educated and strife to be better Muslims than those living in "Muslim" countries. How come?
There is too much hate within your own soul, and to use such balatant lies and propoganda of the so called Jihadists will only further hurt your soul and sanity. If you don't like them, leave them, and go to Somaliland, there is peace there. Dont be a hypocrite.
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law 26. in a way i agree with you, but what she is saying makes sense, its true we live off of west, but its also that Kaafirs will not accept us, just as we would not accept them, that is why Allah told the prophet to tell the Kaafirs, "you have your religion, and i have mine", we are suppose to live in peace together, but never interferr with each other lives, personaly.
[quote="Gacalisa"]law 26. in a way i agree with you, but what she is saying makes sense, its true we live off of west, but its also that Kaafirs will not accept us, just as we would not accept them, that is why Allah told the prophet to tell the Kaafirs, "you have your religion, and i have mine", we are suppose to live in peace together, but never interferr with each other lives, personaly.[/quote]
Gacalliso
"kaafirs" have accepted you by bestowing you with the rights like any "kafir" citizen, what more do you want?
Let us not presume that the west is a homogenous kind of people in terms of religion. There are many different faiths within a certain given nation, for example, in the U.S you find Americans following every religious persuasion and believe in every kind of belief systems that exist in this world. You have Muslims, who are either, indigenous (Indians or Americans), or foreign born Muslims, Athiests, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Devil worshippers, voodoo worshippers, agnostics, Budhists and many more. Why do I need anyone's acceptance? They all tolerate each other. Tolerance is a two way street, and the best positive way to promote Islam among those types of people as a means of Da'wa is to show them how Muslims are tolerant, kind and respectful. But being arrogant and spitefull towards others will only breed hatred which is the philosophical agenda of SomaliSiz and her group.
In accordance with our own religion, Somalis can't even tolerate each other, so, it is hard to teach new tricks to an old dog.
Gacalliso
"kaafirs" have accepted you by bestowing you with the rights like any "kafir" citizen, what more do you want?
Let us not presume that the west is a homogenous kind of people in terms of religion. There are many different faiths within a certain given nation, for example, in the U.S you find Americans following every religious persuasion and believe in every kind of belief systems that exist in this world. You have Muslims, who are either, indigenous (Indians or Americans), or foreign born Muslims, Athiests, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Devil worshippers, voodoo worshippers, agnostics, Budhists and many more. Why do I need anyone's acceptance? They all tolerate each other. Tolerance is a two way street, and the best positive way to promote Islam among those types of people as a means of Da'wa is to show them how Muslims are tolerant, kind and respectful. But being arrogant and spitefull towards others will only breed hatred which is the philosophical agenda of SomaliSiz and her group.
In accordance with our own religion, Somalis can't even tolerate each other, so, it is hard to teach new tricks to an old dog.
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