ARE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WELL, A LITTLE DUMB?

[Ina Baxar]

Lol @ Galol don't you know who Socrates is the great Brasilian midfielder
Aboo waa igu dheeldheela , bey yartu uu jeeda nooh?

[Galol]

In Baxar

Did he have irony? And I thought he was over-rated!

[LionHeart-112]

^^Galol, ALL thinking people go through these crises of faith in their late teens and early twenties. How come you, a 65 year old man, still haven't got the answers to life's msot basic questions?

btw, you know this thead is mine right?

[LionHeart-112]

^^Galol, ALL thinking people go through these crises of faith in their late teens and early twenties. How come you, a 65 year old man, still haven't got the answers to life's msot basic questions?

btw, you know this thead is mine right?

[LionHeart-112]

^^Galol, ALL thinking people go through these crises of faith in their late teens and early twenties. How come you, a 65 year old man, still haven't got the answers to life's msot basic questions?

btw, you know this thead is mine right?

[Cawar]

Old man...All I see from you is that you are at that famous stage Integrity vs Despair, since there is no satisfaction sensed from you, because I dont think your life has been productively lived hence your satgnation in early stages of life eventhough your'e about to retire due to age.

I also see someone so confused that doesnt know what to make of his life?? whats the purpose of his stay here on earth...but its never too late to find the light.

Let me ask you this...dont you think its fair that you should go to hell if you refuse the existence of the creator?? After all the warnings and chances given to you?? what will you have to offer as an excuse when you denied Allah???

Do you think its fair that say a Hitler, a Stalin or a Saddam should get the same treatment as those they killed and/or oppressed?? Dont you think there should be a supreme and impartial judge wether in todays world or in Aakhira that gives every one what they deserve good or bad??
I can go on but I'll stop at this point as I know that you can diferentiate between good and bad... but you chose not only to deny the clarity between Good and Evil , but also to mis-interpret it and fabricate lies about Allah SWT.

[Galol]

Cawar

"Let me ask you this...dont you think its fair that you should go to hell if you refuse the existence of the creator?"

No I don't. In fact I think any entity willing to torture people for eternity for any crime is an evil entity.

What say you?

[Cawar]

Well Hell and punishment for eternity is what awaits those who refuse, deny and ignore out of arrogance the existence of their creator.

Heck we humans punish those who oppose us, let alone those who deny our power and/or our rule(dictators), who can prevent the Omnipotent do whatever he wants since he owns you more than you own your own PC....although he doesnt do any injustice to anyone.

But punishment is not eternal for the average sinner, since God knows humans tend to follow their "Ahwaahum" rather than their God sent laws which btw provides for all makind.. Hidaayah, Raxmah and Jazaa khayr fil Aakhira.....a Just world and a better lifeafter if you ask me.

[Cawar]

Galol,

You know all that is needed to know about God and Islam obviously, and I am not here to convince you or anything, although you seem not to be so confident of your own convictions(standing on a thin line I would say)...However....I am just here to counter argue about your lies ...I really dont care abt your believes as much as you obviously care abt mine/ours as muslims... ...so let us not twist this into you said I said you are wrong I am right kinda argument. agreed??



I also wonder why you chose not to answer this question???


""Do you think its fair that say a Hitler, a Stalin or a Saddam should get the same treatment as those they killed and/or oppressed?? Dont you think there should be a supreme and impartial judge wether in todays world or in Aakhira that gives every one what they deserve good or bad??"

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Cawar"]Well Hell and punishment for eternity is what awaits those who refuse, deny and ignore out of arrogance the existence of their creator.[/quote]

Nonesense! Hell, heaven and eternal salvation/damnation were created for dumb ppl like you who incautiously fall for every stupid hook, line and sinker.

From early on theologians were grappled with the question: why does supposedly omnipotent benevolent God oversee an unjust world where the guilty go unpunished and innocent don't get justice. This obviously was difficult and compromising question for early holy men. To sell such God to the poor and ignorant masses was hard to fathom on its own let alone supplant the already established and inveterate believes. A solution to reconsile all powerful and just God ruling over unjust world was urgently needed.

Once more theologians exploited yet another of man's innate weaknesses -- believe in life after death. Fossil finds show some of our earliest ancestors, and we're talking about hundreds of years, buried their dead with flowers and personal belongs obviously intended for use in the after world. Human tendency to believe in world after ours is as old as man himself. When it was time for theologians to invent the hearafter world, their work was a walk in the park. ALl they had to do was tell ppl what they wanted to hear -- those wronged in this world will get their justice in the after world and those that get away with injustice in this world will be punished in the hereafter.

In a nutshell that is how heaven and hell came to be.

[Cawar]

'Nonesense! Hell, heaven and eternal salvation/damnation were created for dumb ppl like you who incausiosly fall for every stupid hook, line and sinker."

Ok I am content with that...are you???

Why does it bother you so much that I along with 1.5 Billion ppl are dumb enough to worship Allah??? are you feeling left out?? no purpose and hope after the day they put you under six feet of dirt and sand?? Why else would you cry so much and seek for approval/acceptance among us?? If you are so sure abt your convictions then keep them to yourself or even brag about them if you want but....anyways refer to my above posts again. I told you b4 you are not a worthy foe.

[LionHeart-112]

97% of earth's population believe in God, hell & heave

less than 3% are in denial...

[dhuusa_deer]

Cawar,

I'm not seeking approval from you or anyone. I couldn't care less if I was the most hated man alive and an anathema in every community.

However, I want to disabuse you and others of your ailments. Believing child story calibre fairy tales, imaginary after world and most striking of all the ever shrinking God who seems not give a fig about you. These believes do serious damage to you, pegging you down and impeding you from reaching your potential.

[LionHeart-112]

^^u have tried and failed for a year now...time to try something new..pathetic shit.

[Cawar]

"However, I want to disabuse you and others of your ailments. "

WHY????

"These believes do serious damage to you, pegging you down and impeding you from reaching your potential"

Guess what...I am happy, undamaged and achieved a great deal of succes so far Alxamdulilaah..one that you might not even reach and I am at the beginnig of my career...dont misundersatnd me..you could surpass me..or even be ahead of me now( I doubt)....but one thing I will always beat you in.. is that calmness of mind, peacefulness or heart .. filled with inner confidence and hope thats acheivable only through the guidance of Allah SWT. But how would you know if you havent seen/touched/felt the light?? I pity you walaah.