The enemy amongst us: The Somali Christians

[Nabeela]

Are you saying eelyaa's aren't caaadii somali.




From xamar you say. well that explains, i don't understand their accent either.

[Mowhawk]

kisto means wax-in yar=a little bit.

kistoo yar oo jaceeyl ah i sii=give me a little bit of loving.

[Nabeela]

Kistoo waaa caadi, you are right it means a lil bit, but kisto is different.

[Xplosive]

Never met an Eelaay person.

Thanks for the explenation Mowhawk.

[SomaliLight]

[quote=QansaGabeyle].. Imagine one of those annoying jehova witness dudes knocking on your door early in the morning before you even had your canjeero but this time it is not your regular boy/girl but a hard headed skinny. It is an unlikely scenerio since a somali will become an athiest if he ever leaves islam rather than embrace another religion[/quote]

I totally agree, why would anyone want to leave Islam for an intelectually numbing faith like Christianity. The Trinity is the most absurd religious idea i have ever heard, IF i was born into Christainty, i might have assumed like Nietzche that God was indeed dead! I mean what hope is there for mankind if God's son was crucified. Such futile theology is certainly breeding ground for Atheist minds.

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="SomaliLight"] Such futile theology is certainly breeding ground for Atheist minds.[/quote]

What is wrong with that? The world needs more atheists, not less. More atheists means more scientific/technological discoveries, more inventions and innovations and hopefully fewer wars.

BTW, xtrians believe in 3 in 1... muslims are not that far off with their Mohammed and Allah deal or 2 = 1

[SomaliLight]

Dhussa, i am not saying it is bad, I am just pointing out the need to be athiest arises from such bulshiit theology!!

Muslims don't believe in 2= 1, yes sometimes Mohammed's convenient access to Allah is troubling but muslims generally believe in Allah only. And hey, If i was picking and choosing to believe in theology, it certainly would not be Christainity!!

IF we break down religious theology into those with lilttle damage to human reason, i would put it in this order.

Islam,
Judaism,
Christanity,
hinduism

P.S, Dhussa, i think you are alittle harsh on Islam, and i assume this arose from disappointment with the faith because you are well educated in it and perhaps because it is the freshest form of practice in your mind.

[dhuusa_deer]

SomLight,

I would pick Christianity over Islam ANY DAY of the WEEK. I really question the motivation and thinking behind the selection of Islam over christianity... that is from someone free of secretarian dogma like yourself. Christianity demands forgiveness, Islam doesn't by engendering atavistic hatred (ie jews). Christianity says it is ok to drink, eat pork and be merry, Islam is kill joy faith. No drinking, no fun, no sociality (regarding opposite sex), nothing. Dead, sterile, barren, arid pick your word, it has nothing fun, good and lighthearted to offer. Christianity tells me it OK to sin, make mistake because we're humans... all you gotta do is to go to the confession box and come out re-invigorated and with your conscience all cleared up. But where Christianity does it for me over Islam is its flexibility, its ability to change to local demands to move forward with time rather remain at broken traffic light FOREVER like Islam.

Muslims DO believe 2 in 1. They say they don't but that is characteristics of muslims isn't it? They'll tell you we're practioners of the peacefull religion but we hate you jews and nonmuslims. Nijaas!!!!! They actually call human beings IMPURE and practice religious apartheid (go to mecca and medina, try to smuggle a bible into S. Arabia; Darul Harb and Islam). They'll also tell ya "to own his way" but apostates laws are in place just in case you actually go your own way. This split minded way of thinking is predicated by the logical untenability of Islam, muslims are restricted by religious dogmas... they are simply unable to rationaly and objectively reason. So what they say means jack shit most of the time because it jaundiced percept.

I on the other hand am free of any dogmas, I can objectively and impassionately give opinions on Islam without compramising any of my core believes. The Shahada in my view is PURE SHIRK. It partners Mohammed and Allah. I asked this question before and got unanimous reply. The question was: can you be a muslim by believing in ALLah and rejecting Mohammed? The answer was no. Muslims MUST believe both, believe in God alone is not enough. THAT marries Allah to Mohammed. Hence muslim believe of 2 in 1, just like christian 3 in 1.

Lastly, there is no truth in this: I am just pointing out the need to be athiest arises from such bulshiit theology!!

Atheists have been around long before organised religionleft its crib. If atheists were around before the birth of organised religion, then LOGICALLY any atheist can form his/her believes for reasons having nothing to do with religion.

[Unclebin]

Is dhuusa dheere an undercover jehovah's witness?

Is somalilight spreading her legs to the a taliban soldier?

Is the world really ending when people are picking christianity over islam?

Tune into confused atheist/agnostic/trinitarian ideology week, when the dhuusa fukks somalilight on live video stream.

P.S they are both one and the same character, so DD will be fukking his hand

[SomaliLight]

^^ the dumbest majerteen alive has finally appeared!!! what is this rambling you are carrying on?..bwt long time no see, what is crackin Unclebin?

[SomaliLight]

[quote=DD]would pick Christianity over Islam ANY DAY of the WEEK. I really question the motivation and thinking behind the selection of Islam over christianity... that is from someone free of secretarian dogma like yourself. Christianity demands forgiveness, Islam doesn't by engendering atavistic hatred (ie jews). Christianity says it is ok to drink, eat pork and be merry, Islam is kill joy faith. No drinking, no fun, no sociality (regarding opposite sex), nothing. Dead, sterile, barren, arid pick your word, it has nothing fun, good and lighthearted to offer. Christianity tells me it OK to sin, make mistake because we're humans... all you gotta do is to go to the confession box and come out re-invigorated and with your conscience all cleared up. But where Christianity does it for me over Islam is its flexibility, its ability to change to local demands to move forward with time rather remain at broken traffic light FOREVER like Islam. [/quote]

I think you are confusing Christianity with modern Western culture of little religious custom. Perhaps you should pick up a copy of the bible, Christainty when followed with strict devotion parallels your despised Islamic faith. there is no doubt that under the movement of freedom of religion and thought that Christanity has evolved into some limitless religion where everything can be changed and replaced with the flavour of the month, whatever that may be. But in its core Christianity is intolerant, and every Christain believes that if you don't embrace Jesus as Son of God, then you are going to hell. Christainty has the advantage of being much older than islam, time has chipped away its rough edges and smoothed some of its religious taboos. Lets not forget that not long ago, Christians were burning/drowning people alive out of superstition. If you wanna drink, eat swine and live unrestricted thats your choice.but Islam in its core will not force you out of will to comply with islamic belief. As much as these fools in Snet would declare that apostatsy is punishable by death, Allah demands tolerance.

anyway, the little details in Christianity have little purpose for me, The big picture is the Trinity, and even the history of Christianity reveals it is bogus religion created from those who felt guilty that they had tortured some poor guy claiming to be prophet. Christianity can hit the burner as far as i am concerned. At least Allah can challenge my reason sometimes...

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="SomaliLight"] As much as these fools in Snet would declare that apostatsy is punishable by death, Allah demands tolerance.[quote]

First there is no Allah! Second, what matters is what muslims think not what agnostics like you or psuedomuslims think. You are aware I hope that Islam is more than just the total sum of its parts. Meaning there is more to Islam than the Quran and Hadiths. There is culture, tradition, customs, rituals etc. Muslims, at least the majority of them, believe apostates should be killed. That means Islam says apostates should be killed. Why? Becuz Islam = what muslims think it means. Period.




[quote]Christianity can hit the burner as far as i am concerned. At least Allah can challenge my reason sometimes... [/quote]

What on earth are you talkin about Are you high? Allah 'challenging' your reasoning? Did you actually say that? I will save this post in save keep for future taunting


Arliyo, waa isku dhex yaacday caawo!

Tell me HOW Islam challenges your reasoning. Forget it, just tell me HOW reasonable is it to say you believe in monotheistic God but believe in him alone is insufficient you need his partner Mohammed. Just rationalise that conundrum for me, ok gacaliso? I promise I won't hound you or grill u with array of 1001 questions. Just wanna see how sober you are tonight!

[SomaliLight]

Dhussa, First, I really don't care what muslims think, or what their practice deems. I am not muslim and I hardly sweat over what misconceptions they may be harbouring. Second, I am simply giving you an analysis as to why Islam is more reliable monotheist faith compared to Christianity, all in theory of course! if one had to make a choice as a free thinker, i am not referring to which one will allow me a drink or social freedom, i am talking about philosophically. My question is where does the unbeliever denounce islam at the theoretical or as practiced in mainstream? I think all religion must be dissected theoretically first, because mainstream practice is always subject to change and completely dependent on the illogical reasoning of the practioner. Islam claims authencity of its book, so we will judge them for its merit, and not so what very sheikh abdullaahi and sister Xawo is doing in practice. Thus, in my opinion this allah is more involved, and direct in addressing of his audience, whereas in the Bible GOd is narrated by Jesus. So for the sake of analysis, the Quran is a far superior work compared to the Bible, yes the nomad mohammed and scribblers in my opinion did greater work than John and matthew's collection of work. Anyone exposed to a copy of the bible in translation will tell you it is not as well written as the quran, the Tone of the quran is direct, and this speaker always knows his audience. I will give credit where it is due.

I personally denouced islam at the theoretical level of the Quran. Allah is one angry, merciless, and revengeful God, you see that just by reading through the pages of the quran. His whole purpose of creation is self-defeating, He is needy and dying for worship, but not for honest worship, but a sick and sadistic form of worship. He is taunting and cruel, If he wanted he can save all mankind, but he almost says..why spoil the fun. Thus, if the God of islam is incoherent, than so dies islam with him, and practice and behaviour of muslims is no concern to me.

YOu see atheists have a way of assuming that if the described God is not perfect than he cannot exist! But is it not possible for a terrible God to exist? one who is a bad caretaker. Well there you go, atheists like theists measure God by activity and some notion that he is suppose to be a good/loving creator. Thus, if God is contradicting and not good/loving = NO God. But how irrational that is for people of thought?

But the reality of our present uncertainity regarding God also points out that a God may exist indeed, and he may be just that a cruel and horrible one. There is nothing that promised us a kind /loving God except what hopes we have concieved and fabricated in religious allegory.

[Unclebin]

Nuthin much ma. Whats really good? I got to catch some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's so peace and howdy

[SomaliLight]

^^ are you still not sleeping, and you call me an insomniac! go take some sleeping pills or something