Somalia better off than during 1980's?

Samatr · Post by **Samatr** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:26 pm

"We should collectively abhor all kinds of abuse from the government regardless of their tribe....."

I wouldn't loose sleep over the corrupt being hanged in Hargeysa, trust me.

"What I find offensive and disgusting is when someone justifies the horrors that are happening in our country or those that had happened in our country..."

by saying the former regime is better than anarchy you are justifiying the horrors of the past.
Kambuli, its better to die on your feet than live on your knees. Anything is better than a government which does not value its citizens.

Mureedi · Post by **Mureedi** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:31 pm

Samatr

Why do Qaldans like to wail at every given opportunity? Qof la dhaafi maa jiro? We all tasted the poisons of corrupted government and anarchist wolves but we are not crying our eyes like a broken record. Stop the sissyness and put your acts together like real men. Waa nala tumi, waa nala dili leey ku hayaan meehii tagtidbo, ar kuwaan ya wax yeeli jiri

Samatr · Post by **Samatr** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:34 pm

[quote="Mureedi"]Samatr

Why do Qaldans like to wail at every given opportunity? Qof la dhaafi maa jiro? We all tasted the poisons of corrupted government and anarchist wolves but we are not crying our eyes like a broken record. Stop the sissyness and put your acts together like real men. Waa nala tumi, waa nala dili leey ku hayaan meehii tagtidbo, ar kuwaan ya wax yeeli jiri[/quote]

Speak when spoken too, your beneath me.

kambuli · Post by **kambuli** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:34 pm

I just don't give a dime if you twist my words here and there....

quote" I wouldn't loose sleep over the corrupt being hanged in Hargeysa, trust me."

Tell me one corruption you even condemned? On the contrary if someone mentions any thing about Hargeysa Regime you defend no matter what..just like a typical Somali... Right or Wrong you support them...

Tell me where in the world is said that ANARCHY is better than a government? Even the worst government Surprised

Just tell me one...And I am sure that Somalia was better off when there was a government.

1nemansquad · Post by **1nemansquad** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:37 pm

Gurey, very good read man thanks for the article

Samatr, for how many more years to come are you going to play the victim card? under that goverment a large number of people suffered indivitually or collectively, yes its regrettable some had to go through more than the others and forthrightly those that you hold accountable for your maltreatment and your loses might have went through a great deal of callous treatment than your folk (i could be wrong) and you don't see them mourning or wanting others to sypathtice with them

sh.it went down in somali, people lost lifes from all sides, the sooner we can become conscious of that and value the lifes we have now rather than living in what went before, the better prospect we have for not letting that happen ever again...absolution is a vital input to a good health

whatever went down did went down and all somalis had part in it, there is no one to hold responsible but us all so what we need to do is fail to remember the past and move on or we will constantly be having difficulties

Abdi, your folk did more larceny than anyother group in somali that's if we are want to be ingenuous marka abtii i don't think you are in any position to pin down others in that manner

no offence guys; just my saying my piece

Mureedi · Post by **Mureedi** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:45 pm

Samatr

How old are you? I know you hate when someone tells you the truth, but for Godssake, stop the sissyness and put your acts together and talk like a man for once. You are looking for sympathy in the wrong places, every Somali clan that was wronged, put their shitt together, forgot about what happened and dealt with it like a real man, but you, you like crying like a little b!tch who lost the d!ck halfway to her climax

Samatr · Post by **Samatr** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:47 pm

[quote="kambuli"]I just don't give a dime if you twist my words here and there....

quote" I wouldn't loose sleep over the corrupt being hanged in Hargeysa, trust me."

Tell me one corruption you even condemned? On the contrary if someone mentions any thing about Hargeysa Regime you defend no matter what..just like a typical Somali... Right or Wrong you support them...

Tell me where in the world is said that ANARCHY is better than a government? Even the worst government Surprised

Just tell me one...And I am sure that Somalia was better off when there was a government.[/quote]

I have said before, that SL has some corrupt fish and I have no problem if they are shot between the eyes.
At least I don't defend Puntland and their drowning of innocent Somalis, typical huh???
I never said your wrote ANARCHY is better than any government, read thoroughly. Laughing

Samatr · Post by **Samatr** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:51 pm

[quote="Mureedi"]Samatr

Laughing

How old are you? I know you hate when someone tells you the truth, but for Godssake, stop the sissyness and put your acts together and talk like a man for once. You are looking for sympathy in the wrong places, every Somali clan that was wronged, put their shitt together, forgot about what happened and dealt with it like a real man, but you, you like crying like a little b!tch who lost the d!ck halfway to her climax[/quote]

Your like an endangered species, they should put you on animal reserve. Why is it that your the first cadcad I have seen that acts tough, is it a coincedence your also behind a computer. Laughing

kambuli · Post by **kambuli** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:01 pm

Samatr,

Actually ismaba fahmi karno... Aniguna Somalia dal la odhan jirey ayaan ka hadlayaa adna in kooban baad ka hadlaysaa... Somaalia waa dal balaadhan... .

Ta Puntlandna sida aad haddeer hadalka u twist gareeneysid ayuumbaad u twist garaysey.. You read what is in your mind not what the person writes... Sad

Waxa uurka kaaga jira ayuumbey kuula ekataa waxa ay dadku qoraan... Ilaa goorma? Nin yahow qalbiga wanaag u sheeg...

And the other sad case is; You assume someone's tribe and then you base all your argument on that assumption... Waa waxaad ii lahayd waad raaxaysanaysey... Ilaahow yaa labadeenaba ina ogaada....Tell me Xamar maxaad ka qabanaysey? Ma waxaad ahayd kuwii ku raaxaysanayey?

Samatr · Post by **Samatr** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:07 pm

^^Lets just say I had to get out of Xamar. Laughing

simplicity- · Post by **simplicity-** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:28 pm

Thanks gurey for bringing this in . best post i could find today.

Gedo_Boy · Post by **Gedo_Boy** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:03 am

man Samatr, u makin it sound like ppl wanted to terrorize Isaaqs just cuz they are Isaaqs

dictatoriship or not, there was a govt that wanted 2 maintain law n order and the fact is the whole purpose SNM was made in London was to overthrown the government and they were using places like Hargeisa as operation fields n b/c of clan reasons they got sympahty over there

bombing a city was definitely not right and I think it was wrong no matter what, but SNM put the govt in a very bad position by trying to create anarchy in those cities by overthrowing the government

the only qabiil that Siad Barre would prefer is the qabiil that was not trying to overthrow him.......it was nothing personal, it was just a dictatorship

what do you think will happen a Isaaq sub-clan now if they take up arms against the s-land govt. Don't you think the govt will try to stop that?

XidigtaJSL · Post by **XidigtaJSL** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:09 am

Qaasim said it best in 1991 after the fall of afweyne and his regime

Diiftii Ilaah nooga ray dakharadeediiye
Waxa Duumadii noo beddelay doogsin caano lehe
Dabayl Caafimaad iyo Xorriyad loo durbaan tumaye

Waakaa dadkii soo hormaday doobadka ahaaye
Danabbaa u kacay guushu waa lagama daalaane
Haddaan loo dagaallamin xorriyad lama dabbaasheene

Daandaansigii Faqash raggii diidey ka adkaaye
Nimankii is damalloolin jirey dacar la leefsiiye
Derejooyin been ah yaa garbaha loogu daabacaye

Diidiga markii laysla galay Daab ma soo roganne
Kuwii Shaarubaha duubi jirey daadshe qalabkiiye
Digtii horeba waatay baqaha docaha jiidheene

Odaygii dalqada weyn lahaa derejadii xoorye
Daandaan Tumaalkii markii laysu daadsadaye
Wax la yidhi ma daaficine wuu sii dabayshadaye

Laamuu ka degey baa la yidhi Doon intuu koray'e
Isagiyo Dafleba meesha way dacal banneeyeene
Dabatadiyo ways kaashadeen nimanki Daaroode

Degdeg bay dhulkii uga baxeen duhur dharaareede
Alla doori waa waxan lahayn dir ay ku dhaataane
Dad hadday yihiin sida Riyaha looma didiyeene

Dalan-doolki Nayroobi bay dalaq yidhaahdeene
Dal la'aani waw kow dhul ay dib ugu laabtaane
Debedaha ha meereen illeen diide nabaddiiye

Gedo_Boy · Post by **Gedo_Boy** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:58 am

i think you are falling for your politician's propoganda

you don't have a problem with a government, because that government fell, you have a problem with Somalis but I know if Isaaq was president you would have no problem with Somalia

and it is not right to exclude SNM from the blame because they were trying to create environment of anarchy they got help from somalia's enemy to attack and kill the army and then go back to the city that was not a smart thing to do for the sake of the people

and then you elect a member of the dictator goverment to be your president

salafi_student · Post by **salafi_student** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:31 am

[quote="gurey25"]
I believe in government,
but only on the condition that the government is as small as possible
and with minimum power.[/quote]

This is liberalism in my book, right?