Fighting Flares up in Mogadiscio

Nuruddin · Post by **Nuruddin** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:36 am

When will Somali people realize no one triumphs from a war, Think of the bloodshed of innocents civilains, And who are accountable for their deaths. What Somali needs is a rude awakening.

gurey25 · Post by **gurey25** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:08 am

Have you guys ever wondered why the fighting stops around maghrib time? Laughing

Whats the use of fighting hard killing and capturing territory, when you will abandon all these gains at nightfall and go back for qaad and food.

there will be no gains from these wars if they continue to be fought by qaad addicted mooryan,

I believe the wadaads will have the upperhand this time.

Ceelgabo · Post by **Ceelgabo** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:40 am

Man, the same warlords that destroyed Somali, made Somalis refugees and beggers are know using words like fighting terrorism...Is this one of the sign of the end of time...when good is seen as bad and bad is seen as good.. but anyway I hope the Islamic courts annihilates these bastereds..

salafi_student · Post by **salafi_student** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:17 pm

Gurey lool

Is like filling caag gadaal ka duleela!

Caydid · Post by **Caydid** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:53 am

Mowkahk, I could be guilty of sugar coating but I am not guilty of spinning Laughing

That is your department. You reported on a story without looking at the likely causes; the motives and much more. Your purpose I guess is to tell us (those who visit somalinet) that Muqdisho is a killing field compared to those in Campuchea!

If you, however, analyse you will realise that this wave of conflicts has been instigated, nourished and set in motion by the so called peace process. The president (whose goals you hardly report on) bears the ultimate responsibility. He made Jowhar his H/Q; used the terrorism card and made conflicts lucractive.

To those who wants to report this as a hawiye conflict you are wrong. This is a conflict like that in Buulo burde between members of the same sub clan. It is financed and given moral support by the TFG. Most of Muqdisho is peaceful

You choose your side: Are you on the side of the wadaads who wants to bring peace; some kind of order and a revolutionary perspective to the somali conflict?

Or on the side of warlords who ran out of esteem (using tribalism) but found sanctionary in the new geopolitical situation of cashing on on fighting terrorism?

Lord Diplock · Post by **Lord Diplock** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:11 am

When will those fighting in Mogadishu realise that fighting will never solve their problem and killing people for whatever reason is unforgivable and unaccepatable.

Mowhawk · Post by **Mowhawk** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:50 am

[quote="Caydid"] "You reported on a story without looking at the likely causes; the motives and much more. Your purpose I guess is to tell us (those who visit somalinet) that Muqdisho is a killing field compared to those in Campuchea!"

Laughing

Caydiid

I just posted a valid event that is taking place in Muqadishu which is my capital and every Somali who has such feelings. If you live there why not give us your analysis of the event without crying foul, and spinning Mogadiscio to be as safe as Phenom Penh Laughing

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"If you, however, analyse you will realise that this wave of conflicts has been instigated, nourished and set in motion by the so called peace process. The president (whose goals you hardly report on) bears the ultimate responsibility. He made Jowhar his H/Q; used the terrorism card and made conflicts lucractive."

This has been brewing for a while now, and I wrote a post based to that effect after I came back from Somalia, and predicted that there will be a clash between the forces at loggerheads toady. Unfortunately, the archives of Somalinet are gone.

"To those who wants to report this as a hawiye conflict you are wrong. This is a conflict like that in Buulo burde between members of the same sub clan. It is financed and given moral support by the TFG. Most of Muqdisho is peaceful."

I have never claimed this to be " a hawiye conflict", and I don't believe that Abdulahi Yusuf is a legitimate leader of Somalia, but is a warlord one of the worst kind, while you on the other hand, have again and again demonstrated your support based on tribal solidarity. Don't ask me how I came to this conclussion. Laughing

I wish a capable non-Hawiye/ Daarood person to take the lead like in Somaliland for the sake of peace.

"You choose your side: Are you on the side of the wadaads who wants to bring peace; some kind of order and a revolutionary perspective to the somali conflict Or on the side of warlords who ran out of esteem (using tribalism) but found sanctionary in the new geopolitical situation of cashing on on fighting terrorism??"

I have studied closely the wadaad's activities and lived with them in Mogadiscio for over 2 weeks, and saw first hand their generosity and great humanitarian agenda. Though I found out many reasons to believe that they shouldn't run the affairs of the State on a permanent basis, I wholeheartedly support them to get rid of the warlords, and run as a transitional government till the Somalis elect a new government and relinguish the affairs of the State to that body. Will they do that? I don't know, do you?

Axlaan · Post by **Axlaan** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:01 am

As long as those who are dying are Hawiye, I can sleep at night. Rolling Eyes

Gedo_Boy · Post by **Gedo_Boy** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:15 am

^^^^^damn sister, those are innocent ppl Mad

what did a old lady who gets blind or a young kid who loses his legs do to deserve that

Axlaan · Post by **Axlaan** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:32 am

[quote="Gedo_Boy"]^^^^^damn sister, those are innocent ppl Mad

what did a old lady who gets blind or a young kid who loses his legs do to deserve that[/quote]

Sh!t happens little man. If they were meant to get hurt, they will whether they deserved it or not.

Caydid · Post by **Caydid** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:28 am

Mawhak, we are on the same footing. Did you read what others have wrote on this topic? What do you make of their contributions?

So you lived with the wadaads?

The wadaads offer an alternative to the culture of deaths based on tribalism. You have two sides:

1) The warlords who have killed somalis; who don't want peace and who make money on conflicts.

2) You have wadaads who are from every tribe- united in the name of islam. They are the ones fighting terrorism. I think very somali should support them. Their ranks have been infiltrated by some tribalists. The majority of them may belong to one tribe but that is still positive.

salafi_student · Post by **salafi_student** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:13 pm

[quote="Caydid"]

2) You have wadaads who are from every tribe- united in the name of islam. They are the ones fighting terrorism. I think very somali should support them. Their ranks have been infiltrated by some tribalists. The majority of them may belong to one tribe but that is still positive.[/quote]

I think wadaads should clarify what their intentions are before we support them.. They must tell us:

3) Is this a defensive war or offensive? In which each one has an especial ruling in Islam.

1) Who are the enemies? Muslims or Kufars? (i.e. Clear battle lines).

2) Who is their leader (wadaads)? Who is guiding them in military and spiritual wise?

3) What theyÃ¢Â€Â™ve prepared for this particular war in means of weaponry and religious confections?

4) Will the benefit overweigh the causalities? (I.e. loss of multiple lives)

5) What are their objectives of this war (Insha Allah)? (I.e. To make the word of Allah above All in regards of following the QurÃ¢Â€Â™an and Sunnah to the way of the Salafu Salih).

Wabilahi towfiq

Nur Afdhaal · Post by **Nur Afdhaal** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:32 pm

Aydiid, Hawiye are mentally slave and physically free.

Af_libaax · Post by **Af_libaax** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:30 pm

Nur Afdhaal

Can You Name the only Somali Clan that 21 century still under colony
mentally and physically ? I will give You Tip Laughing

Koombo .

I am sorry my fella Somalis Laughing

somebody has to wrack the Kid

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About Mogadishu confilict , my prediction Wadaads will take control over the Warlords , desperate times will always lead You desperate measures will the Wadaads follow strictly religion guidence or tribal taboo it will depend how they behave , religion guidence they may have some success and Popular support among all Somalis . Tribal Card back to square One with New Laughing

Gardheere Warlords

Caydid · Post by **Caydid** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:19 am

Salafi

Walaahi I have no idea who is in their ranks or what their mission is. But I know one thing: They are fighting tribal warlords who have brought havoc. In the absence of a better alternative I will go with those who would islam to bring order.

As far as my sources are concerned the wadaads come from virtually every tribe in somalia. They could have been infiltrated by tribalists.

The warlords are bitter. Suddenly their position is questioned. Their powerbase is rambling- and what would they say??? Yeah, they change the mission of wadaads , call them tribalists, call them terrorists.

Let us wait and see.

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