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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:48 am
by +chilli
^^ But You Can marry the Christians and Jews right (women of the book)?
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:49 am
by Basra-
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:50 am
by COOL-MAN
[quote="+chilli"]^^ But You Can marry the Christians and Jews right (women of the book)?[/quote]
yep but men only can. women should stick to their own.
kufrs of somalinet, feel free to jump ON the above comment make issue of it untill you get tired!
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:00 am
by +chilli
Yeah I know thanks, it just that the ayan you posted seemed to rule out all none-believers, but I’v heard women of the book are permissible to men…
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:03 am
by The Law26
[quote="COOL-MAN"]qur'an2.221
Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.[/quote]
Coolman
Correction.
That ayat above you presented was addressed towards marrying pagans. Muslim men are allowed to marry women of the Book, i.e., Jews and Christians. A clear permission is given in the Qura'an by Allah SWT that Muslim men may marry chaste women from the People of the Book but no such permission or refutal is given to Muslim women marrying men from People of the Book. The relevant verse reads, and let me quote for you:
Chapter : 5 (Al-Ma'idah) Verse : 5
"...And lawful for you are chaste believing women and chaste women from among those who were given the Book before you, when you give them their dowries, contracting valid marriage and not committing fornication, nor taking secret paramours..."
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:04 am
by COOL-MAN
[quote="+chilli"]Yeah I know thanks, it just that the ayan you posted seemed to rule out all none-believers, but I’v heard women of the book are permissible to men…[/quote]
That was yususf ALI TRANSLATION AND HE PUT IDOLATERS IN BRACKETS. CHECK IT OUT AGAIN.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:06 am
by ChaneL-Lover
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:22 am
by COOL-MAN
[quote="The Law26"][quote="COOL-MAN"]qur'an2.221
Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.[/quote]
Coolman
Correction.
That ayat above you presented was addressed towards marrying pagans. Muslim men are allowed to marry women of the Book, i.e., Jews and Christians. A clear permission is given in the Qura'an by Allah SWT that Muslim men may marry chaste women from the People of the Book but no such permission or refutal is given to Muslim women marrying men from People of the Book. The relevant verse reads, and let me quote for you:
Chapter : 5 (Al-Ma'idah) Verse : 5
"...And lawful for you are chaste believing women and chaste women from among those who were given the Book before you, when you give them their dowries, contracting valid marriage and not committing fornication, nor taking secret paramours..."[/quote]
What corrections??
the brother asked "will you marry a non-muslim woman??" and the last time i checked pagans waa non mulsims

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:38 am
by The Law26
What corrections??
the brother asked "will you marry a non-muslim woman??" and the last time i checked pagans waa non mulsims."
Again correction.
Allah SWT commanded Muslim men they can marry Christian and Jewish women because they are considered People of the Book. They are non-Muslims (depending on your definition of a Muslim). The answer is yes, Muslim men can marry non-Muslim women like the above group. Mind you there is not a single ayat in the Qura'an that prohibits Muslim women not marrying people of the Book. This ban was reached by the consensus of the Scholars.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:39 am
by Xplosive
[quote="ChaneL-Lover"]:D
OMG
Marriage is one big headache

Just get a partner!.It's sooo much easier

[/quote]
Hello Basra

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:49 am
by COOL-MAN
[quote="The Law26"]What corrections??
the brother asked "will you marry a non-muslim woman??" and the last time i checked pagans waa non mulsims."
Again correction.
Allah SWT commanded Muslim men they can marry Christian and Jewish women because they are considered People of the Book. They are non-Muslims (depending on your definition of a Muslim). The answer is yes, Muslim men can marry non-Muslim women like the above group. Mind you there is not a single ayat in the Qura'an that prohibits Muslim women not marrying people of the Book. This ban was reached by the consensus of the Scholars.[/quote]
law26, are you urguing for the sake of it? where did i say muslim men are prohibited to marry ahlu kitaab??
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:56 am
by The Law26
No, now you clarified the situation, but if you look at your earlier post, let me qoute you;
the brother asked "will you marry a non-muslim woman??" and the last time i checked pagans waa non mulsims."
Not only the pagans, so are Christians and Jews considered as non-Muslims.
Just like you and every other Muslim, it is my role too as a Muslim to clarify things. Anyway thanks for clearing it up. You answer is yes, Muslim men are allowed to marry Christian and Jewish women. That is the end of it.
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:05 am
by ERROR
same, nope, science does not believe in luv. Some1 can like another person to a point but when it comes to "I can't eat without you"/ "I'll killl you/myself if I can't have you" we are talking about psycho ppl. The nearest definition of such luv is "mental imbalance"
100% of ppl who end up in a hospital for luv related issue r treated in the mental ward. Vast majority of homocides in the US where the victim and the killer know each other revolves in current/previous luv relationships.
LUV is poison PPL. The first time i lose interest is when she tells me she loves me beeri beeri much. I picture possible homocide/suicide.
All major religions (to some point) do not allow hanky business b4 marriage.
to the rest
Follow your heart and you'll enjoy a very short time and live in misery 4 the rest. Follow your mind and you'll succeed in life.
[quote="same"]Science proves that love is blind
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3804545.stm[/quote]
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:27 am
by Basra-
Error@loool
Boy...Love has really screwed you up hasn't it!!!
Xplosive--Helloo to you too sweetheart! Goed morgen Maneer

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:56 am
by ERROR
lol - basra - honestly, (now) i believe in co-habitation, not necessarily the "L" word. In my teen yrs, yep but @ that time my brain was still growing and lacked full mental capacity
