First of all the concept of Somali union itself is ironically the product of the very European colonialism which it came out to resisit and oppose.
The Somali never felt or belonged to a nation,let alone a Nation State till the Euros came to Africa. Before that the Somali was no more than a butt-naked savage fluidity of clans and communities sharing a loose range of cultural and social values including courage and killing(like all human communities by the way), barbarity, misogyny, ignorance and haughty pride resulting from all the the values mentioned above.
In some ways the worst thing the euros gave us is their idea of how communities should organise themselves into rigid nation states - something they learnt from their own narrow, overcrowded, war-ridden social systems which evolved from their tiny, cramped little sewage-ridden continent.
The nation State temporarily worked for them so they (innocently on some occassions) tried to impose on our clan sysems concepts of nationhood that are completely alien to us.
So in some ways by becoming clan entities we are goig back to our reality; to our roots and rejecting colonialism! Clannism is actually revolutionary and cool!
It is not so much Somaaliyeey Toosoo but Jilibkeygoow toossooo for me. And if your are Kombo, poor little you, keep quiet. Kooombboy kaalaya aan geela wasnee..doesnt quite inspire..does it?
Who says the idea of a one `country' with stupid piece of clothing as a primary embelem, dumb, pointless lines on a sand and even dumber song which more or less says "let them all go to hell except our little piece of land we marked with out chit and piss" is somehow better than a clan area using the same processeses in different narrative?
OK let me try: Soooomaliyeey Toosoo...toosooo is wasa eey...(or was it isku tiirsada eey?)
Anyway who cares?
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Turning toward Socialism Galol are we? I'm glad to hear that the socialist principles that I've occasionally sought to diffuse aren't falling on deaf ears. I concur. I say get rid of all the artificial borders, and let's start thinking of the good of man internationally.
The notion that the peoples of the world have different aspirations and are at odds with each other is an absurd one. At root we're all the same, and we ought to work with one another to create another world, a world where people's needs come first instead of profit for big business; a world where workers take power. Internationalism is the word that's echoing across the world, not nationalism.
Glad you've finally turned your back on capitalism Galol. Socialism is the way forward. As Rosa Luxemburg once famously said: "It's either socialism or barbarism."
The notion that the peoples of the world have different aspirations and are at odds with each other is an absurd one. At root we're all the same, and we ought to work with one another to create another world, a world where people's needs come first instead of profit for big business; a world where workers take power. Internationalism is the word that's echoing across the world, not nationalism.
Glad you've finally turned your back on capitalism Galol. Socialism is the way forward. As Rosa Luxemburg once famously said: "It's either socialism or barbarism."
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Calool,
Koombos are your president, or more precisely the Haughty and Almighty Royal Family of Majeerteen are here to lead u away from the abject and honourless Position you Iidoors occupy today. Cabdilaahi Yuusuf and his macavity Majeerteen whose Ancient Kingdom predates European colonialism by 100 years, are here to bring Law and Order, not to mention respectability, to your people.
No Longer do u have to describe yourself as English Orphans. Cabdilaahi Yuusuf and His Royal Dynasty are here to rescue u loooooool.
Koombos are your president, or more precisely the Haughty and Almighty Royal Family of Majeerteen are here to lead u away from the abject and honourless Position you Iidoors occupy today. Cabdilaahi Yuusuf and his macavity Majeerteen whose Ancient Kingdom predates European colonialism by 100 years, are here to bring Law and Order, not to mention respectability, to your people.
No Longer do u have to describe yourself as English Orphans. Cabdilaahi Yuusuf and His Royal Dynasty are here to rescue u loooooool.
^^ Look at this fool
The irony is, the Dhabayaco regards this fool as a nobody, he is kissing their arse. Talk about being a slave. In fact, it wasn't long ago when the Dhabacyo killed two of this fool's cousins for one of theirs. That is how it is. And yet, this is the tool talking.
And it doesn't end there. When it comes to deciding the destiny of these fools, the Isaaqs would rather, and rightfully so, talk to the Dhabacyo. This was the case when some months ago, A Isaaq Military leaders led by Gen. Nuux Taani met with Dhabacyo Ministers near Las Canood and exchanged prisoners. It was a Dhabacyo minister who, on the occation, told the Isaaq military men that "It was not worth it for us [in his opinion Isaaqs and Dhabayaco] to be fighting over these useless godforsaken piece of sh*tty land". The Isaaq generals told the Dhabacyo fool, why he was here if he thought that was the case??
That is not all. It wasn't long ago, when Col. Afbiijo told his other Dhabayaco ministers that, in his own words, "Dhulbahante are good for only being footsoldiers, since Cabdille Xassan".
It looks like this shameful fool above is displaying the traits known for his clan.
Throughout history, this prostitute-filled clan, is known for one thing. Waxay waligoodba caabudaan Doofaar sii dhimanaaya oo wakhtigiisi dhamaaday. It looks like they never learn and are bent to repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again. We've seen them of what has become of them when Calaacal Xassan died like pig in Iimay, running away for his life. We have seen of them how they had became after Pappa Afwayne was ousted and he too died a like Dog in a Nigerian toilet. Soon we will see of what will become of this slave-like mentality clan when Beer Doofaar dies a shameful death somewhere in Kenya or erlsewhere.
The irony is, the Dhabayaco regards this fool as a nobody, he is kissing their arse. Talk about being a slave. In fact, it wasn't long ago when the Dhabacyo killed two of this fool's cousins for one of theirs. That is how it is. And yet, this is the tool talking.
And it doesn't end there. When it comes to deciding the destiny of these fools, the Isaaqs would rather, and rightfully so, talk to the Dhabacyo. This was the case when some months ago, A Isaaq Military leaders led by Gen. Nuux Taani met with Dhabacyo Ministers near Las Canood and exchanged prisoners. It was a Dhabacyo minister who, on the occation, told the Isaaq military men that "It was not worth it for us [in his opinion Isaaqs and Dhabayaco] to be fighting over these useless godforsaken piece of sh*tty land". The Isaaq generals told the Dhabacyo fool, why he was here if he thought that was the case??
That is not all. It wasn't long ago, when Col. Afbiijo told his other Dhabayaco ministers that, in his own words, "Dhulbahante are good for only being footsoldiers, since Cabdille Xassan".
It looks like this shameful fool above is displaying the traits known for his clan.
Throughout history, this prostitute-filled clan, is known for one thing. Waxay waligoodba caabudaan Doofaar sii dhimanaaya oo wakhtigiisi dhamaaday. It looks like they never learn and are bent to repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again. We've seen them of what has become of them when Calaacal Xassan died like pig in Iimay, running away for his life. We have seen of them how they had became after Pappa Afwayne was ousted and he too died a like Dog in a Nigerian toilet. Soon we will see of what will become of this slave-like mentality clan when Beer Doofaar dies a shameful death somewhere in Kenya or erlsewhere.
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KunDile,
Let us look back at the record:
**I was a foot soldier for the Great Daarood Nationalist who Declared a Holy War to free Somalis from the colonial domination of Europeans. At that same time you were a foot soldier running like a dog behind the English.
loooooooooooooooooool.
**When I was serving the progressive revolutionary government of my Darood brother Siyaad you were also in that same government the only difference being you abased yourself and were aservile and fulsome in your praise of Siyaad. Who Can forget the Immortal words Samawade Siyaad coined by Yaasiin Ismaaciil Jirde. And later on you went into the Arms of Somalia's oldest and deadliest historical enemy who used you brainless Isaaqs to do their dirty work of destroying Somalia.
**And Today I am in league with my brother Majeerteen and Warsangeli in Puntland and also support the duly elected President of Somalia. He happens to be Daarood. It is a great enterprise that has the support of the whole international community and the Daarood are doing all in their power to exercise patience, compromise, consensus and cooperation to bring peace and prosperity to Somalia. You on the other hand have locked yourself up in a little tribal enclave called Somaliland. In reality it is Isaaqland and their is a lot friction and unrest in Isaaqland today. You appointed a non-Isaaq former Colonel in Siyaad Barre Secret police in order to Deny the Habar Jeclo their chance to govern. The weak Habar Jeclo are restive and want their share of the power since all the other Habars have had their chance but Colonel Riyaale employing all the tradecraft he learned in the old East Germany has consolidated his powers.
Today You cant get rid of Riyaale without unleashing a Samaroon Storm and setting off a possible breaking away of Awdal from Isaaqland into the waiting arms of their Big Ciise Brother Geelle.
Riyaale destroyed your dream and while doing it he abuses Isaaq people daily to the point of imprisoning young pregnant Sacad Muuse Women who subsequently had a miscarriage in prison.
He routinely jails your politicians. he cracks down on dissent. Freedom of Speech is something unheard of in Today's Somaliland.
And you have the temerity and gall to compare yourself to the illustrious and Esteemed Dhulbahante Darwiish Family.
I am in the vanguard for the Freedom, unity, progress of Somalia.
You have been in the service of Somala's enemies and oppressors and -but for a short period of nationalist consciousness - always working for the destruction and disunity of Somalis.
And yes btw You started your argument by pitting Isaaq vs Dhulbahante. That is the Natural matchup because we Dhulbahante are enough to keep all Isaaqs and in fact the entire Dirta Woqooyi at bay.
Let us look back at the record:
**I was a foot soldier for the Great Daarood Nationalist who Declared a Holy War to free Somalis from the colonial domination of Europeans. At that same time you were a foot soldier running like a dog behind the English.

**When I was serving the progressive revolutionary government of my Darood brother Siyaad you were also in that same government the only difference being you abased yourself and were aservile and fulsome in your praise of Siyaad. Who Can forget the Immortal words Samawade Siyaad coined by Yaasiin Ismaaciil Jirde. And later on you went into the Arms of Somalia's oldest and deadliest historical enemy who used you brainless Isaaqs to do their dirty work of destroying Somalia.
**And Today I am in league with my brother Majeerteen and Warsangeli in Puntland and also support the duly elected President of Somalia. He happens to be Daarood. It is a great enterprise that has the support of the whole international community and the Daarood are doing all in their power to exercise patience, compromise, consensus and cooperation to bring peace and prosperity to Somalia. You on the other hand have locked yourself up in a little tribal enclave called Somaliland. In reality it is Isaaqland and their is a lot friction and unrest in Isaaqland today. You appointed a non-Isaaq former Colonel in Siyaad Barre Secret police in order to Deny the Habar Jeclo their chance to govern. The weak Habar Jeclo are restive and want their share of the power since all the other Habars have had their chance but Colonel Riyaale employing all the tradecraft he learned in the old East Germany has consolidated his powers.
Today You cant get rid of Riyaale without unleashing a Samaroon Storm and setting off a possible breaking away of Awdal from Isaaqland into the waiting arms of their Big Ciise Brother Geelle.

Riyaale destroyed your dream and while doing it he abuses Isaaq people daily to the point of imprisoning young pregnant Sacad Muuse Women who subsequently had a miscarriage in prison.
He routinely jails your politicians. he cracks down on dissent. Freedom of Speech is something unheard of in Today's Somaliland.
And you have the temerity and gall to compare yourself to the illustrious and Esteemed Dhulbahante Darwiish Family.
I am in the vanguard for the Freedom, unity, progress of Somalia.
You have been in the service of Somala's enemies and oppressors and -but for a short period of nationalist consciousness - always working for the destruction and disunity of Somalis.
And yes btw You started your argument by pitting Isaaq vs Dhulbahante. That is the Natural matchup because we Dhulbahante are enough to keep all Isaaqs and in fact the entire Dirta Woqooyi at bay.

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