17 Terror Suspects Arrested in Toronto
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Thanks Mike for being fair and just
Same
You should be ashammed of your self. You know the majority here don't speak Arabic and you mistranslating the Hadeeth. Hate clouding your judgements. I never supported violent acts and I'll never as doesn't serve any purpose and makes things worse.
Here the Hadeeth and please stop mistranslating it.
In Bukhari:
4 ـ باب أعن أخاك ظالما أو مظلوما
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ـ ØÂدثنا مسدد، ØÂدثنا معتمر، عن ØÂميد، عن أنس ـ رضى الله عنه ـ قال قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم â€Â"†انصر أخاك ظالما أو مظلوما â€Â"â€Ââ€Â.†قالوا يا رسول الله هذا ننصره مظلوما، ÙÂكي٠ننصره ظالما قال â€Â"†تأخذ ÙÂوق يديه â€Â"â€Ââ€Â.â€Â
roughly means, Stop him or hold his hand from oppressing others. Eeb Alaik.
Maybe Arab Man could translate it better than me.

Same
You should be ashammed of your self. You know the majority here don't speak Arabic and you mistranslating the Hadeeth. Hate clouding your judgements. I never supported violent acts and I'll never as doesn't serve any purpose and makes things worse.
Here the Hadeeth and please stop mistranslating it.
In Bukhari:
4 ـ باب أعن أخاك ظالما أو مظلوما
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2484
ـ ØÂدثنا مسدد، ØÂدثنا معتمر، عن ØÂميد، عن أنس ـ رضى الله عنه ـ قال قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم â€Â"†انصر أخاك ظالما أو مظلوما â€Â"â€Ââ€Â.†قالوا يا رسول الله هذا ننصره مظلوما، ÙÂكي٠ننصره ظالما قال â€Â"†تأخذ ÙÂوق يديه â€Â"â€Ââ€Â.â€Â
roughly means, Stop him or hold his hand from oppressing others. Eeb Alaik.

Maybe Arab Man could translate it better than me.
- kambuli
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The only problem I have with arresting people who are allegedly terrorists is how genuine is their allegations? None of us have no sympathy to anyone who is doing terrorist actions... because that kind of a person does not care for no body including his own parents... But everything is maybe not true...Everything we read is not true
If they are Innocent may Allaah help them, if they are terrorists may they burn in Jahanba...

If they are Innocent may Allaah help them, if they are terrorists may they burn in Jahanba...
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[quote="avowedly-agnostic"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5042724.stm
Police raided a house in east London in the early hours of yesterday morning and apprehended two Islamists one of whom they shot in the shoulder during the arrest to incapacitate him. Apparently MI5 (one of the secret services of Britain) had reason to believe that the men were planning to set off a chemical device which they were working on inside the house. A forensic team is still searching the house.
Muslim extremists worldwide urged on by the promise of 72 virgins and a river of fine wine seem to want to maim and murder innocent civilians going about their daily occupations whether it be in Toronto Canada, or London England. Couldn’t wait for their reward in the afterlife so they figured they’d hasten their death instead.
And Allah knows best[/quote]
how ignorant you are
Police raided a house in east London in the early hours of yesterday morning and apprehended two Islamists one of whom they shot in the shoulder during the arrest to incapacitate him. Apparently MI5 (one of the secret services of Britain) had reason to believe that the men were planning to set off a chemical device which they were working on inside the house. A forensic team is still searching the house.
Muslim extremists worldwide urged on by the promise of 72 virgins and a river of fine wine seem to want to maim and murder innocent civilians going about their daily occupations whether it be in Toronto Canada, or London England. Couldn’t wait for their reward in the afterlife so they figured they’d hasten their death instead.
And Allah knows best[/quote]
how ignorant you are

Rebel, I didn't translate or mistranlate it.
One should not encourage such plans or acts of offending. Agree?
قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: إذا رأيت أمتي تهاب أن تقول للظالم يا ظالم ÙÂقد تودّع منهم
You can read more on this issue in this page:-
http://www.sunna.info/Lessons/islam_940.html
One should not encourage such plans or acts of offending. Agree?
قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: إذا رأيت أمتي تهاب أن تقول للظالم يا ظالم ÙÂقد تودّع منهم
You can read more on this issue in this page:-
http://www.sunna.info/Lessons/islam_940.html
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Whoops my bad same. I don't know what I was thinking when I read it. You're quite right. I'll take it back
The mojority of Muslims don't encourage violent or terrorist act. According to Islam if you are being threatened you fight back. By the way that site is funny. They are almost against every one, Wahabia, alekhwan, Amro Khaled, Hizbel tahriir, Alqarathawi... Seems they are the only Ahl Sunna


The mojority of Muslims don't encourage violent or terrorist act. According to Islam if you are being threatened you fight back. By the way that site is funny. They are almost against every one, Wahabia, alekhwan, Amro Khaled, Hizbel tahriir, Alqarathawi... Seems they are the only Ahl Sunna


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[quote="avowedly-agnostic"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5042724.stm
Police raided a house in east London in the early hours of yesterday morning and apprehended two Islamists one of whom they shot in the shoulder during the arrest to incapacitate him. Apparently MI5 (one of the secret services of Britain) had reason to believe that the men were planning to set off a chemical device which they were working on inside the house. A forensic team is still searching the house.
Muslim extremists worldwide urged on by the promise of 72 virgins and a river of fine wine seem to want to maim and murder innocent civilians going about their daily occupations whether it be in Toronto Canada, or London England. Couldn’t wait for their reward in the afterlife so they figured they’d hasten their death instead.
And Allah knows best[/quote]
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Gaal dil, gartiisana sii...
I really don’t blame bird for stating these remarks, to which we receive in detestation. Muslims today, who are ill advisedly employing the notion of Jihad, and are cowardly targeting defenceless people instead of facing the real enemy, have handed birdy over here and his ideological comrades, all the disparaging arsenal they are currently employing against us.
Bird, you are well within understandable grounds for speaking as you do, we (Muslims) have laid the platform for this.
Personally, I would be a liar if I didn’t admit my dislike for the contradictory stance of the Muslim ummah today. Why is it that we are so keen at pointing the fingers at kufrs when the sins of Muslims cause us more harm and further the agendas of our enemies? Why do these so called “shahiids fail to wage jihad against the Saudi Royals who rule under “shirk†banner by referring themselves as “Majestic†& Highness†in a nepotism fashion as they fock up the lives of the most defenceless Muslims under their whim.
I don’t see Al Qaida Shahiids blowing up Royal Palaces, I guess we can credit this to the Bin Laden Family Accord..
Indeed we are amidst the prophesised times of weakness and confusion.
Lord Help the Ummah!!
Bird, play as u please..my jihad surely is not with you at the moment
Police raided a house in east London in the early hours of yesterday morning and apprehended two Islamists one of whom they shot in the shoulder during the arrest to incapacitate him. Apparently MI5 (one of the secret services of Britain) had reason to believe that the men were planning to set off a chemical device which they were working on inside the house. A forensic team is still searching the house.
Muslim extremists worldwide urged on by the promise of 72 virgins and a river of fine wine seem to want to maim and murder innocent civilians going about their daily occupations whether it be in Toronto Canada, or London England. Couldn’t wait for their reward in the afterlife so they figured they’d hasten their death instead.
And Allah knows best[/quote]
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Gaal dil, gartiisana sii...

I really don’t blame bird for stating these remarks, to which we receive in detestation. Muslims today, who are ill advisedly employing the notion of Jihad, and are cowardly targeting defenceless people instead of facing the real enemy, have handed birdy over here and his ideological comrades, all the disparaging arsenal they are currently employing against us.
Bird, you are well within understandable grounds for speaking as you do, we (Muslims) have laid the platform for this.
Personally, I would be a liar if I didn’t admit my dislike for the contradictory stance of the Muslim ummah today. Why is it that we are so keen at pointing the fingers at kufrs when the sins of Muslims cause us more harm and further the agendas of our enemies? Why do these so called “shahiids fail to wage jihad against the Saudi Royals who rule under “shirk†banner by referring themselves as “Majestic†& Highness†in a nepotism fashion as they fock up the lives of the most defenceless Muslims under their whim.


I don’t see Al Qaida Shahiids blowing up Royal Palaces, I guess we can credit this to the Bin Laden Family Accord..
Indeed we are amidst the prophesised times of weakness and confusion.
Lord Help the Ummah!!
Bird, play as u please..my jihad surely is not with you at the moment

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