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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:29 am
by Gedo_Boy
^^^ Watch the video before I hear another word from you.


Remember, intellectuals have to "examine the evidence" before "coming to a rational conclusion."

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:40 am
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="Gedo_Boy"]^^^ Watch the video before I hear another word from you.


Remember, intellectuals have to "examine the evidence" before "coming to a rational conclusion."[/quote]

I have seen scads of these conspiratorial docs and this one is no different.

and who are these 'intellectuals?'

I hope u weren't refering to me cause I aint and don't intend on becoming one.

That said, every human being with functioning brain should always judge evidence before reaching a verdict. It's equally prudent to be post-judiced.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:42 am
by Gedo_Boy
you can't get out of that by saying you have seen "scads of conspiratorial documentaries"

That's a cop-out for not wanting to make an educated, informed decision.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:19 am
by michael_ital
LooooooooL @ "50 Cent word" and "u gotta be kiddin me? Since when did hip-hop artist own copyrights over english words." Laughing Laughing Laughing T.F.M!

Seriously, though. GB is right. To form an INTELLIGENT opinion, you need to see the video. The destruction of the twin towers is dissected scientifically, right down to the melting points of the support beams.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:31 am
by Gedo_Boy
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:35 am
by Gedo_Boy
michael_ital,

I can't see how it couldn't be an inside job considering all that evidence.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:36 am
by Gedo_Boy
"So what? Testimonies by leading scientist/s don't exonerate Quran's woeful scientific and historical inaccuracies. Refering to ppl of authority to make an arguement is well known logical fallacy called APPEAL TO AUTHORITY. Had it occured to you that these so called 'leading scientists' could be wrong? I don't even know what scientists you talking about.
"

So if the leading experts in the particular field agree with the Quran, please tell me who is in a
position to disagree with them? Keep in mind, this isn't politics or liberal arts where 2 experts
can have opposing views, this is science, if something is a FACT, there is consensus. There has to be,
otherwise I could think 2+2=4 and you could think 2+2=5



"Nothing can be proved wrong! C'mon man, that is just dumb thing to say. "

Confused "Nothing can be proved wrong" Confused
Yes, I can prove that certain scientific facts are wrong through experiment. If I propose gravity
to be 6.5 m/s^2 it can be proven it's wrong. If I say the sperm of a male contains a "tiny human"
it can be proven wrong.




"Outside of mathematics, logic and to some extent courts of law, there is no such thing as PROOF. No scientific theory has EVER been proven right or wrong. NOt even gravity! "

Come on man, you're killing me! Laughing
Like I said, forget about proving right, that's a higher level. All you have to do to prove something is wrong is
either come up w/ a contradiction or conduct an experiment that proves the stated theory is wrong. To give you
a real life example, the Michelson-Morley experiment PROVED that there was no such thing that scientists called the "aether"/"ether".



"Actually the Quran completely got it wrong on embryology. For example it doesn't seem to take into account the role the egg plays. It talks about the sperm something everyone knew had a role in reproduction.
"

You're giving me the runaround bro!
It's not wrong because it didn't mention the role of the egg. It didn't ATTEMPT to describe the egg, it kept completely silent about it. It's not a science manual,
it's for salvation.

Your job is to take the statements mentioned in the Quran and show that THOSE statements are wrong. That's something you haven't done, you just run around
in circles.


The Quran does talk about the sperm, but it talks about:

1. Where it comes from in the body (i.e. where it originates).
2. The evolutionary stages of the embryo, very accurately too.



So you've attempted to sidescreen & dodge the whole question. But rest assured, with the negative publicity campaign going on worldwide in the Quran,
if there were scientific contradictions in the Quran, there would be tens/hundreds of millions of dollars spent getting that fact across. When people
criticize Islam, do you see them criticize Islam based on scientific errors in the Quran?

Why do you think that isn't the case?

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:01 am
by Freakishly_Free
Boy, boys, stop fighting. We all know the Jews did it. Rolling Eyes