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Dhuso--i cannot indulge into endless much ado about nothing.You know very well Islam is what you need, accept it now or on your death--that is your choice!
Cherokee@loooooool i know uuu soo much better u know--during those innocent days of dearest Hibo! Can u imagine?? We practically grew up together!
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Cherokee@loooooool i know uuu soo much better u know--during those innocent days of dearest Hibo! Can u imagine?? We practically grew up together!
Kambuli----Love you Macaanto!
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[quote="Basra-"]Dhuso--i cannot indulge into endless much ado about nothing.You know very well Islam is what you need, accept it now or on your death--that is your choice! [/quote]
You pathetic coward cougar! I asked you to tell me why YOU believe in something totally devoid of evidence and you go on tangents about me and completely unrelated shit.
truly disappointed at least I thought you'd muster the gumption to write down half decent, honest reply but alas we got standard muslim reply -- which is mostly empty of any meaning.
You pathetic coward cougar! I asked you to tell me why YOU believe in something totally devoid of evidence and you go on tangents about me and completely unrelated shit.
truly disappointed at least I thought you'd muster the gumption to write down half decent, honest reply but alas we got standard muslim reply -- which is mostly empty of any meaning.
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Basra
My question is straight forward and simple, do you think it's just that Allah pardons the sin of a mass murderer, who's inflicted immense suffering on Allah's creation just on the basis that such a person believes in him, whilst at the same time torturing a humanitarian who's done much to help others, because they don't believe in a god that tortures?
PS. The fact that you believe angels and jinns to be the same speaks an awful lot about your knowledge of theology. There's clearly a difference between the two imaginary characters: Jinns are supposedly created from fire, angels from light, and Jinns have free will whereas angels don't. Do you still think they're the same?
My question is straight forward and simple, do you think it's just that Allah pardons the sin of a mass murderer, who's inflicted immense suffering on Allah's creation just on the basis that such a person believes in him, whilst at the same time torturing a humanitarian who's done much to help others, because they don't believe in a god that tortures?
PS. The fact that you believe angels and jinns to be the same speaks an awful lot about your knowledge of theology. There's clearly a difference between the two imaginary characters: Jinns are supposedly created from fire, angels from light, and Jinns have free will whereas angels don't. Do you still think they're the same?
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Jiin or Angel-- the point is--Satan was once the favorite creation of Allah. So Adam was created he felt not the favorite anymore. Get it?? Why do u have to get into 'petty' none intellectual arguement about small trivial things??
Again u delve into stupid little things individual people did- here on earth & u conclude they are ambassadors of Allah.Seriously--when i said-- follow the teaching of Quran-- i was not joking.Dont take the word of every Joe who beats his chest like a chimp(no pun to Dhuso) & boast he is a Muslim & acts on Islam's behalf. Again you concetrate on little trivial things that have no basis to the teachings of Islam. You dont look at the BIG picture. You are not an intellectual. You are simple a sheep who was caught in the midst of mountain Nazereth--by Agnostic merchants & they adopted you into this little adorable--flamboyant little sissy Ahmed & moved to Uk! Waar shut up & get an Islamic life.
'truly disappointed at least I thought you'd muster the gumption to write down half decent, honest reply '
Dhuso --truly disappointed i dont speak monkey language?? I do speak Klingon though---Hoe gart het Maneer?

Cherokee---Its okey sweety--- but truly speaking-- I do miss Collegegirl & Hibo---dont you!???

Jiin or Angel-- the point is--Satan was once the favorite creation of Allah. So Adam was created he felt not the favorite anymore. Get it?? Why do u have to get into 'petty' none intellectual arguement about small trivial things??
Again u delve into stupid little things individual people did- here on earth & u conclude they are ambassadors of Allah.Seriously--when i said-- follow the teaching of Quran-- i was not joking.Dont take the word of every Joe who beats his chest like a chimp(no pun to Dhuso) & boast he is a Muslim & acts on Islam's behalf. Again you concetrate on little trivial things that have no basis to the teachings of Islam. You dont look at the BIG picture. You are not an intellectual. You are simple a sheep who was caught in the midst of mountain Nazereth--by Agnostic merchants & they adopted you into this little adorable--flamboyant little sissy Ahmed & moved to Uk! Waar shut up & get an Islamic life.
'truly disappointed at least I thought you'd muster the gumption to write down half decent, honest reply '
Dhuso --truly disappointed i dont speak monkey language?? I do speak Klingon though---Hoe gart het Maneer?
Cherokee---Its okey sweety--- but truly speaking-- I do miss Collegegirl & Hibo---dont you!???
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[quote = Basra] Dont take the word of every Joe who beats his chest like a chimp(no pun to Dhuso) & boast he is a Muslim & acts on Islam's behalf. Again you concetrate on little trivial things that have no basis to the teachings of Islam. [/quote]
My question has nothing to do with the actions of muslims. My question concerns the arbitrary nature of Allah.
Perhaps I ought to give an example to illustrate what I mean: there's a famous hadith in Bukhari where the Prophet said that there once lived a man who had killed 99 innocent persons, including the scholar that said Allah would never forgive him for his henious crimes, yet when when he died (or so the legend goes) Allah forgave him because he was a Muslim.
So again I ask: do you think that Allah is just when he forgives mass murderers on the sole basis that they're Muslim, yet tortures a non-Muslim who throughout his life has taken on charitable causes to help the needy and the poor?
My question has nothing to do with the actions of muslims. My question concerns the arbitrary nature of Allah.
Perhaps I ought to give an example to illustrate what I mean: there's a famous hadith in Bukhari where the Prophet said that there once lived a man who had killed 99 innocent persons, including the scholar that said Allah would never forgive him for his henious crimes, yet when when he died (or so the legend goes) Allah forgave him because he was a Muslim.
So again I ask: do you think that Allah is just when he forgives mass murderers on the sole basis that they're Muslim, yet tortures a non-Muslim who throughout his life has taken on charitable causes to help the needy and the poor?
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'Perhaps I ought to give an example to illustrate what I mean: there's a famous hadith in Bukhari where the Prophet said that there once lived a man who had killed 99 innocent persons, including the scholar that said Allah would never forgive him for his henious crimes, yet when when he died (or so the legend goes) Allah forgave him because he was a Muslim'
Avowedly Agnostic --yet again you rationalize like a child.You blame catastrophy on Allah. Like Sir Lug has said before--- 'Sh!t happens'! Perhaps these humongous naturalal catastrophe is a God send blessing! It controls the population of africa into good manageable--desired population number. Note -I said 'perhaps' !
I am sorry i digressed from your point.
About that that man who killed 99 muslims--well perhaps Allah Forgave him because he 'repented'! Ever think of that sceniro??? Why do u have to jump to one conclusion & one conclusion alone-- 'Blaming Allah' Maybe u need to change your attitude dear--be a little 'open' minded & return to your beautiful religion-- i will not give up on you as many have.

Avowedly Agnostic --yet again you rationalize like a child.You blame catastrophy on Allah. Like Sir Lug has said before--- 'Sh!t happens'! Perhaps these humongous naturalal catastrophe is a God send blessing! It controls the population of africa into good manageable--desired population number. Note -I said 'perhaps' !
I am sorry i digressed from your point.
About that that man who killed 99 muslims--well perhaps Allah Forgave him because he 'repented'! Ever think of that sceniro??? Why do u have to jump to one conclusion & one conclusion alone-- 'Blaming Allah' Maybe u need to change your attitude dear--be a little 'open' minded & return to your beautiful religion-- i will not give up on you as many have.
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[quote = Basra] About that that man who killed 99 muslims--well perhaps Allah Forgave him because he 'repented'! [/quote]
Perhaps he did. But you've yet to answer my question.
I'll try once more: Do you think that it's just or fair that killers and murderers be pardoned and admitted into gardens under which rivers flow whilst good and decent humanitarians be tortured in hell eternally on the sole basis that the former believes in god and the latter doesn't?
Perhaps he did. But you've yet to answer my question.
I'll try once more: Do you think that it's just or fair that killers and murderers be pardoned and admitted into gardens under which rivers flow whilst good and decent humanitarians be tortured in hell eternally on the sole basis that the former believes in god and the latter doesn't?
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