Can we somalis pull it off (Greater somalia)
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is this how low haawiye brain works.. u were in war for 16 years ur people destroyed.....and poor...now u had peace for a month and u wanna get back ogadenia and nfd and fight ethopia and kenya..u must be mad..........first fix up xamar.........make an adminstration u probably have no idea how it all works,.........but not everything is about war........??
Time is the most utter importance, since we captured xamar, ksimayo, theres a shock wave within somalia, the faster we consolidate the lands of somalia the faster our goals can be achieved.
Ethiopia is a very weak countrie and the 40 million strong oromo people feel upset at the small tigre regime. Its easy to break dem up, all we have to do is invite oromo rebels into somalia and let them do the rest 4 us and that country would just crumble.
I don't like the way u somalis talk , cos u talk like cowards and coward people are not true somalis.
Ethiopia is a very weak countrie and the 40 million strong oromo people feel upset at the small tigre regime. Its easy to break dem up, all we have to do is invite oromo rebels into somalia and let them do the rest 4 us and that country would just crumble.
I don't like the way u somalis talk , cos u talk like cowards and coward people are not true somalis.
Hey barawani, Let me tell u something, Haber Gider built somalia and we then destroyed somalia and we gonna bulid up somalia again.
Bruv look how we deal with our eneimes, ethiopia knows we dangerous thats why they spending millions to destroy us, but they ain't gonna succeded cos hawiya got ur back.
Bruv look how we deal with our eneimes, ethiopia knows we dangerous thats why they spending millions to destroy us, but they ain't gonna succeded cos hawiya got ur back.
The Habar Gedir (also Habar Gidir or Habr Gidr) is a Somali clan, part of the larger Hawiye group.
The Habar Gedir clan became very powerful in the middle of 1700, when King of Ajuuraan had controlled most of East Africa. The Habar Gidir leader, a Fiqi of Shiikhaal and the Iiman of Abgaal made alliance to fight the administration of King Ajuuraan. The clan has produced great somali figues such as, Abdullahi Issa the chairman of the Somali Youth League (SYL) and first prime minister of Somalia, 1949-1960, prior to independence and General Mohammed Farah Aidid who ousted the dictatorial regime of Siad Barre. Once again, the Habar Gidir become a more powerful clan under the leadership of Mohamed Farrah Aidid, during the time of Somali civil war. Aidid opposed the UN presence in Somalia, and specifically Mogadishu. His forces are most famous for their participation in the Battle of Mogadishu on 3 October 1993 against the U.S. Army Special Forces.
The Habar Gedir are divided into four main sub clans: Sacad, Saleemaan, Saruur and Cayr and they inhabited from Gaalkacyo in Mudug, central Somalia to Kismaayo in southern Somalia.
Abdullahi Issa Mohamud was born in 1922 at Afgoi. The Second World War broke out while he was still a student. After he turmoiled of the war years, he joined the SYL from its onset. He became one of the leaders of the party and was eventually appointed Secretary-General.
He went to Paris and New York as an SYL delegate to proclaim the right of the Somali people to independence. After election as an SYL deputy in the political elections of 1956. Hon. Abdullahi was called in the same year to form Somalia's first Government, thus becoming the first Prime Minister.
Re-elected in 1959, he was re-confirmed as Premier, and held for some time also the portfolios of Foreign Affairs, Interior and Grace and justice. In the government formed after Somalia's Independence in July 1960, he was appointed Foreign Minister. In this capacity he took part in many international conventions, in particular the U.N General Assembly and the African conferences of Lagos, Addis Abeba, Dakar and Other. In the general election of March 1964 he was returned to the National assembly as an SYL deputy for Beledweyne.
General Mohamed Farrah Aidid (Somali: Maxamed Faarax Caydiid) (December 15, 1934 – August 1, 1996) was a Somali leader of the Habr Gidr subclan (itself part of the larger Hawiye clan). He was the chairman of USC and later SNA who drove President Mohamed Siad Barre’s regime from the capital, Mogadishu. Later he challenged the presence of United Nations and United States troops in the country.
General Aidid was educated in Rome and Moscow and served in the government of Mohamed Siad Barre in several capacities; in the end as intelligence chief. Barre suspected him of planning a coup d'état and had him imprisoned for six years. In 1991, the clan of General Aidid did indeed overthrow Barre, and General Aidid, as leader of the United Somali Congress, emerged as a major force in the ensuing civil war.
Magool (c. May 2, 1948 - March 19, 2004) was a Somali singer and musician. She was a beloved singer in Somalia.
Magool was born as Halima Khaliif Omar in the city of Beledweyne, the capital of Hiiraan state. She had four siblings. In 1959, while living at the house of a cousin of hers named Mohamed Hashi, she joined a small Mogadishu-based band. Within that year, she moved to Hargeysa where she joined the city's version of the Mogadishu-based Waaberi. From there she was nick-named "Magool", which means flower, by songwriter Yusuf Haji Adan.
In the mid-1960s, Magool came back to Mogadishu. She married a young general named Mohamed Nur Galaal. The marriage did not last but her popularity continued to rise. In the 1970s, she sang famous patriotic songs while Somalia was at war with Ethiopia.
In the late 1970s, she sang love songs but also sang Islamic songs that did not agree with the government. A self-imposed exile followed that lasted until 1987. Her concert of that year, titled "Mogadishu and Magool", is to date the most successful concert in Somali history. More than 15 thousand people turned out in the city's stadium.
Her unique performances, talents of memorizing entire albums in hours and her deep, skipping voice made it possible for her to be called Hoyadii Fanka, or "Mother of Artistry."
In the early 1990s, she sided with Mohamed Farah Aideed, singing songs against the Faqash [word used against the Daarood tribe.] For this, the artist incured criticism. Later, she explains she was not siding with any tribe in particular but that she was supporting a Revolution. Regardless, Magool continued to be popular.
On March 19, 2004, she died in a hospital in Amsterdam where she had been sick for a while. She did not leave any children.
Abdiqasim Salad Hassan (Somali: Cabdiqaasim Salaad Xasan) (born 1941) is a former de jure President of the internationally-recognised government of Somalia, the Transitional National Government. He was recognized as President of Somalia ,in exile in Djibouti, on August 27, 2000 until October 14, 2004 and was previously a minister in Siad Barre's regime.
His government controlled parts of the Somali capital, Mogadishu, with the rest of the country being under the control of various warlords.
The mandate of the transitional national government expired in August 2003. Abdiqasim withdrew from the talks aimed at forming a new government shortly before the mandate expired. Prime Minister Hassan Abshir Farah accused him of trying to make the talks fail to extend his time in office, resulting in the prime minister's dismissal by Abdiqasim. However, Abdiqasim pledged to step aside to make way for a constitutionally-elected leader. Abdiqasim was a candidate for the presidency of the new national unity government, but he was not among the 3 candidates who passed the 1st round of voting. He left office peacefully several days after the election. Abdiqasim, of the Hawiye clan, is remembered for his quiet and thoughtful—some say weak and indecisive—leadership.
Thats Haber Gider now show me warsengali history if u dare.
The Habar Gedir clan became very powerful in the middle of 1700, when King of Ajuuraan had controlled most of East Africa. The Habar Gidir leader, a Fiqi of Shiikhaal and the Iiman of Abgaal made alliance to fight the administration of King Ajuuraan. The clan has produced great somali figues such as, Abdullahi Issa the chairman of the Somali Youth League (SYL) and first prime minister of Somalia, 1949-1960, prior to independence and General Mohammed Farah Aidid who ousted the dictatorial regime of Siad Barre. Once again, the Habar Gidir become a more powerful clan under the leadership of Mohamed Farrah Aidid, during the time of Somali civil war. Aidid opposed the UN presence in Somalia, and specifically Mogadishu. His forces are most famous for their participation in the Battle of Mogadishu on 3 October 1993 against the U.S. Army Special Forces.
The Habar Gedir are divided into four main sub clans: Sacad, Saleemaan, Saruur and Cayr and they inhabited from Gaalkacyo in Mudug, central Somalia to Kismaayo in southern Somalia.
Abdullahi Issa Mohamud was born in 1922 at Afgoi. The Second World War broke out while he was still a student. After he turmoiled of the war years, he joined the SYL from its onset. He became one of the leaders of the party and was eventually appointed Secretary-General.
He went to Paris and New York as an SYL delegate to proclaim the right of the Somali people to independence. After election as an SYL deputy in the political elections of 1956. Hon. Abdullahi was called in the same year to form Somalia's first Government, thus becoming the first Prime Minister.
Re-elected in 1959, he was re-confirmed as Premier, and held for some time also the portfolios of Foreign Affairs, Interior and Grace and justice. In the government formed after Somalia's Independence in July 1960, he was appointed Foreign Minister. In this capacity he took part in many international conventions, in particular the U.N General Assembly and the African conferences of Lagos, Addis Abeba, Dakar and Other. In the general election of March 1964 he was returned to the National assembly as an SYL deputy for Beledweyne.
General Mohamed Farrah Aidid (Somali: Maxamed Faarax Caydiid) (December 15, 1934 – August 1, 1996) was a Somali leader of the Habr Gidr subclan (itself part of the larger Hawiye clan). He was the chairman of USC and later SNA who drove President Mohamed Siad Barre’s regime from the capital, Mogadishu. Later he challenged the presence of United Nations and United States troops in the country.
General Aidid was educated in Rome and Moscow and served in the government of Mohamed Siad Barre in several capacities; in the end as intelligence chief. Barre suspected him of planning a coup d'état and had him imprisoned for six years. In 1991, the clan of General Aidid did indeed overthrow Barre, and General Aidid, as leader of the United Somali Congress, emerged as a major force in the ensuing civil war.
Magool (c. May 2, 1948 - March 19, 2004) was a Somali singer and musician. She was a beloved singer in Somalia.
Magool was born as Halima Khaliif Omar in the city of Beledweyne, the capital of Hiiraan state. She had four siblings. In 1959, while living at the house of a cousin of hers named Mohamed Hashi, she joined a small Mogadishu-based band. Within that year, she moved to Hargeysa where she joined the city's version of the Mogadishu-based Waaberi. From there she was nick-named "Magool", which means flower, by songwriter Yusuf Haji Adan.
In the mid-1960s, Magool came back to Mogadishu. She married a young general named Mohamed Nur Galaal. The marriage did not last but her popularity continued to rise. In the 1970s, she sang famous patriotic songs while Somalia was at war with Ethiopia.
In the late 1970s, she sang love songs but also sang Islamic songs that did not agree with the government. A self-imposed exile followed that lasted until 1987. Her concert of that year, titled "Mogadishu and Magool", is to date the most successful concert in Somali history. More than 15 thousand people turned out in the city's stadium.
Her unique performances, talents of memorizing entire albums in hours and her deep, skipping voice made it possible for her to be called Hoyadii Fanka, or "Mother of Artistry."
In the early 1990s, she sided with Mohamed Farah Aideed, singing songs against the Faqash [word used against the Daarood tribe.] For this, the artist incured criticism. Later, she explains she was not siding with any tribe in particular but that she was supporting a Revolution. Regardless, Magool continued to be popular.
On March 19, 2004, she died in a hospital in Amsterdam where she had been sick for a while. She did not leave any children.
Abdiqasim Salad Hassan (Somali: Cabdiqaasim Salaad Xasan) (born 1941) is a former de jure President of the internationally-recognised government of Somalia, the Transitional National Government. He was recognized as President of Somalia ,in exile in Djibouti, on August 27, 2000 until October 14, 2004 and was previously a minister in Siad Barre's regime.
His government controlled parts of the Somali capital, Mogadishu, with the rest of the country being under the control of various warlords.
The mandate of the transitional national government expired in August 2003. Abdiqasim withdrew from the talks aimed at forming a new government shortly before the mandate expired. Prime Minister Hassan Abshir Farah accused him of trying to make the talks fail to extend his time in office, resulting in the prime minister's dismissal by Abdiqasim. However, Abdiqasim pledged to step aside to make way for a constitutionally-elected leader. Abdiqasim was a candidate for the presidency of the new national unity government, but he was not among the 3 candidates who passed the 1st round of voting. He left office peacefully several days after the election. Abdiqasim, of the Hawiye clan, is remembered for his quiet and thoughtful—some say weak and indecisive—leadership.
Thats Haber Gider now show me warsengali history if u dare.
Every somali knows Haber Gider lineage
I u telling u never heard of
Ceyr
Sacad
Salabaan
If the world knows our lineage especially the Americans wen we kicked their ass, read Blcak hawk down, its says all the Haber Gider lineage their.
We are the mostt famous in somalia, north, south, east, west, we are just the best.
I u telling u never heard of
Ceyr Sacad SalabaanIf the world knows our lineage especially the Americans wen we kicked their ass, read Blcak hawk down, its says all the Haber Gider lineage their.
We are the mostt famous in somalia, north, south, east, west, we are just the best.
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