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Dicemoney · Post by **Dicemoney** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:04 am

Niya so you do welcom a foreign intervention that could cause RAPE definitly killings of mothers childeren innocent people And LAND OCCUPATION?

Cilmiile · Post by **Cilmiile** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:05 am

Jefrey Dahmer,

Wahaabism is the most destructive ideology in the world today. These people are so rabid and obscurantist that they destroyed the houses and other places frequented by the Prophet and his saxaaba and relatives because they feared that they will become objects of veneration.

They are a cult that has a deep vein of intolerance, brutality and oppression. They oppress women, they oppress people who have different belief systems, they oppress people who disagree with their methods.

All this is surpassed by the ignorance and arrogance and zealotry of newcomers to their cult. I have seen with my eyes recent converts to the Wahaabi Cult, armed nothing more substantial than a a knowledge of quraan upto Idaajaa or Tabat( 4 or 5 shorts Suras) denounce their non-Wahaabi former teachers, friends and relatives as Practitioners of Bidca and Shirk. Denounce their former Xaafidul Quraan Teachers as ignorant practitioners of a deluded song and dance rituals.

I have seen it with my own eyes ignorant Wahaabi recent converts pray by themselves because they felt the Jamaaca, made up of their relatives and people superior to them in knowledge in knowledge and judgement, to be practitioners of Voodoo Islam.

biko · Post by **biko** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:06 am

[quote="Niya"]Biko, I do NOT support the ICU. I am against foreign intervention in Somalia. I support the TFG because it was born out of a cross clan conference and consensus making process that took 2 years. Feel free to spin my stand in any which way you want.[/quote]
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i do not believe for one minute thats the main reason you suport the TFG.

i dont have to spin anything cos what you are saying and the excuse you are making for your suport doesnt make sense at all. your contradicting yourself by claiming your against foreign intervention yet you suport the TFG and their cinjiir troops in somalia.

dont insult our inteligence abayoo. at least be honnest about the main reason for your suport whatever that might be.

if ethiopian troops in somalia isnt intervention and ocupation/ invasion, then what you call it?

and please please dont call it training troops.

Niya · Post by **Niya** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:10 am

Dicemoney, it is the ICU that needs do a cost/benefit analysis of going to war. So far the ICU has succeed in doing mininmum impact in exchange for maximum causalties.

ps:
I don't beleive in emotional blackmail and guilt trips.

biko · Post by **biko** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:14 am

ps:
I don't beleive in emotional blackmail and guilt trips.

of course you dont. you believe in something more rotten and sinister than what your leting out.

Niya · Post by **Niya** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:15 am

Biko, I like when you say abaayo.........it is soooo un-Djiboutiyan Laughing

I agree with you. I am Majeerteen, guilty as charged, no other option is possible from the prespective of your tunnel vision.

Dicemoney · Post by **Dicemoney** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:20 am

UIC is defending somali soil and they have the majority of somali people behind them whe are against INVADERS and never shall we SIDE with a national ENEMY ETHIOPIA that is simple as that

Ethiopia wants to see a weak divided somalia and take advantage of suffering of the somali people.

Viva UIC

allahu akbarrrrrrrrr

biko · Post by **biko** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:23 am

[quote="Niya"]Biko, I like when you say abaayo.........it is soooo un-Djiboutiyan Laughing

I agree with you. I am Majeerteen, guilty as charged, no other option is possible from the prespective of your tunnel vision.[/quote]
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i didnt even know you were MJ untill pablo mentioned. it could have been for other selfish reasons even if you werent MJ, but from the way you put it above; i'll take your word for it.

khayr baan isku ognahay abayoo... Smile

Jeffrey Dahmer · Post by **Jeffrey Dahmer** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:56 am

Cilmiile, that is not "Wahhabism" but the views of the Ghulaat and Haddadi followers.

I will respond to your points soon walaal as I am running out of time atm.

Post by **AbdiWahab252** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:02 pm

Cilmiile is right. ITs not a Darood vs HAwiye thing. Its a war of IDEOLOGY. The ICU represent extreme, backward UnSomali ideology while the TFG represents a moderate, progressive ideology.

The notion of Darood vs. Hawiye died in 1992. After that we had coalitions of interest groups from all qabiil i.e. Marexan-Cayr alliance.

Even a HARDCORE UIC member will dismiss its a qabiil war.

XidigtaJSL · Post by **XidigtaJSL** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:08 pm

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Cilmiile is right. ITs not a Darood vs HAwiye thing. Its a war of IDEOLOGY. The ICU represent extreme, backward UnSomali ideology while the TFG represents a moderate, progressive ideology.

The notion of Darood vs. Hawiye died in 1992. After that we had coalitions of interest groups from all qabiil i.e. Marexan-Cayr alliance.

Even a HARDCORE UIC member will dismiss its a qabiil war.[/quote]

So you consider the bombing of your own brothers and sisters in Beledweyn by Ethiopian aircrafts "progressive ideology Question

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Hutu fooqal hutu

dhuusa_deer · Post by **dhuusa_deer** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:11 pm

[quote="Cilmiile"]Indhacadde and Daahir Aweys have a lot to answer for. They have plunged Somalia into war. Young Somalis are dying everywhere because of the vanity and ambition of these two traitors who sold out Somalia to the Wahaabi Cultists of Saudi Arabia.

They will be brought before a Somali Tribunal and made to answer for their crimes[/quote]

sayeth the man who has a brother in TFG (I know him btw).... why should anything you say be taken seriously. your support for the TFG is understandable but dumb thing on your part.

Af_libaax · Post by **Af_libaax** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:33 pm

eyes_only

The act of deliberate betrayel of aiding foreign enemy to wage a war is violation of Citizenship of Somalia and those who responsible will be huntdown No matter what happen .

We can understand some of you here the belief of a tribe is strong feeling of identity and its your first Loyalt before faith and country , You need to understand in Somali society tribe isn't the problem but Laughing

Tribalism

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michael_ital · Post by **michael_ital** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:03 pm

This transcends qabiil, as any idiot can figure out the ICU consists om members of all clans. To say it's an Hawiye thing is ignorant.

Ashlee~ · Post by **Ashlee~** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:09 pm

Mikey

The TFG has forces from darood hawiye dir rehanweyn. Don't make it sound likethe UIC is a multi qabiil base and the TFG is a Majerteen Laughing

Which its not. ITs as diverse if not more then THE Union of Islamic Ceyr

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