Who was the first clan to Kismaayo amongst the Darood?

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[quote="Jeffrey Dahmer"]Guys, just acknowledge that both these tribes entered the Jubbas in early 19th century. It doesn't matter who entered when.

Ashlee, you cannot deny that Mareexaan were the first Jubbas settlers (there is evidence) .

Dawladsade, you can also not deny that Harti weren't the first settlers (there is evidence).[/quote]

Fishy Mareexan Laughing Look at the way you phrased it. Look at how you address Dawlo and me Laughing Tricky Mareexaan Bastaards Laughing
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JUST A REMINDER


THIS IS A STATE OF EMERGENCY...........JIGGA HOV AHAHAHAHAH

JD and Dawlo

The first Darood Clan to come to kismaayu is unequivocally Herti. harti wammo have lived in Kismaayo for 140+ years at least.

The wardeey galla borana and all the galla were pushed out of by the abdalla and abudwak ogaden. The rest of darood follwed. Most Daroods within months of hearing the news of the Galla being expelled came with a quickness.


Herti uprising and later and later 'pacification' villages of yonte kurkumez

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Ali suleyman aka ali saleeban putting there possesions in Kismaayo under british protection in 1895.

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Ogaden in the interior and harti along the coast in 1870's excerpt:

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Defeat of Wardai galla, Ogaden and Marehan moved towards jubaland, harti sailed to Kismayo. Cool

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Ali suleyman Ali Nahar killed by Omer mohmoud and Warsangeli Men in 1906 kismayo ( WHATS NEW Laughing)

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Clan map dated in the 19th century

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Marehan in land (presumably Todays gedo) Herti South of Kismayo (buulo Xaaji)

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Herti Man in Jubaland picture taken unknown time but the picture was included in a 1913 piece done by a british writer. So its at the very least 100 years old give or take.

He has his geeljire Laba go'le Laughing

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So I ask you dawlad where is dabodheer or is this another Ahmed gurey is Mareehan made up aabe siyad proposition? Laughing


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Sources:

1.Across Southern Jubaland to the Lorian Swamp ,I. N. Dracopoli,
The Geographical Journal > Vol. 42, No. 2 (Aug., 1913), pp. 128-140

2.A Visit to the Bajun Islands. Part I (Continued): Brief Historical Sketch--Source of Origin of the Present and Past Population--Traditions Thereanent J. A. G. ElliotJournal of the Royal African Society > Vol. 25, No. 98 (Jan., 1926), pp. 147-163

3.Jubaland and Its Inhabitants F. Elliott,The Geographical Journal > Vol. 41, No. 6 (Jun., 1913), pp. 554-561

4.The Impact of Mohammad Abdille Hassan in the East Africa Protectorate
E. R. Turton
The Journal of African History > Vol. 10, No. 4 (1969), pp. 641-657


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Dude I never said there could not have been Harti in Kismaayo before Dabo-dheer. The fact is Kismaayo was never considered a big city until recent times especially then it was not even a village. Serinley was bigger then Kismaayo and today Serinley is a village off Baardheere that is used as a Mareexaan military training post along with Bulsho.

Kismaayo ONLY become big in the 70's when the U.S became interested in it during the cold war as a base and the government sought to take advantage and wanted to populate it because of that.

As an old reer Ahmed man told me, Marehan never thought of trying to live in Kismaayo after capturin it because the area around is too densely forested to be living in real safety. That's why they continued up the river until they came to the still green but more open fields of Gedo and what is today northern Jubbada Hoose.


Earlier Harti expulsion was due to two reasons.

1. The Sayd Mohammed Abdulle Hassan thing when he attacked the mjs and threw 300 off eyl. Shoot thats when the runs to Beledweyne and like your family ran to Bulo-burto and other areas in south occured.

another was

2. When you gave yourself up the italians and the colonials had a habit of transplanting ppl loyal to them to other places. thats how you were also brought from the coast.

Why do you think you ONLY live in a little part of Kismayo which is a coastal city.

WITH THAT SAID, those Mj's altogether were not more then 250 people ALLTOGETHER.

Dude look at your OWN information:

Arrow "The Hertis were so tied to the SMALL district around Kismayu, Yonte, and Kurkumez, that they never DARE rebel government as a tribe"

You were less then 250 [TWO HUNDRED FIFTY PEOPLE] altogether so god knows how you guys shared the percentage.

Whereas Mareexaan were:

Arrow On the outbreak of war there were three battalions in the two British Protectorates of Uganda and East Africa[20], who together made up seventeen companies. Of the seventeen "Six were engaged in operations against the MAREHAN people on the Juba river, several others were preparing to march against the Tukana, and one was in Zanzibar"

http://henleycol.ac.uk/henleycollege/co ... /essay.htm

Ma dadkaas baa isku barbar dhigmo? One that lived in 2 villages (REMEMBER villages even today in 2007 dont number more then 25 ppl max) and people foreign powers were using half-dozen company regiments against???

This going back to our earlier contention, how could you even DARE to have been the first to come there and free anything Confused Confused Wallahi it is mystifying how you could even DARE to claim that. Shocked

Dont bring me bs that is not here nor there. I brought you EXACT information WHO conquered Kismaayo first then moved up and conquered ALL THE WAY TO SOUTHERN Ethiopia.

Over 98% of the Harti that claim Kismaayo were brought by Maj Gen. Jaale Mohammed Siyaad barre when he saw the Dabo-dheer drought and the opportunity presented to him around Kismaayo area by the Americans and EVEN you're own Majeerteen websites proof it.

I have never been to Jstor but best believe I will hit that place real soon just as soon as the sign in is brought to me. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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^ Is that your best response Laughing First Marehan were the first to come to Kista. Then it was a tuulo until marehans came. I used academic journals from the early 20th century. You are citing

ESSAYs that have no citation Laughing Anthropolgical journals from the travellers to Kismaayo and jubbaland State that the whole Marehan population of Jubbaland (GEDO) was at the most 5 thousand people. While Kismaayo alone had 3000 hartis. Laughing That means kismaayo had 60%+ of what marehand minus there central regions at the time. Ceeb caleyk


BRING ACADEMICALLY CITED SOURCES AND NOT

"http://henleycol.ac.uk/henleycollege/courses/humanities/history/essay.htm "

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its not even QARXIS any more its called FARXIS!


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