Paki Female Minister Shot Dead!!!

[e!]

[quote="Cadeey"]Let me make it clear her killing had nothing to do with Islam.[/quote]

True, but to ppl like Mad Mac anything wrong that a muslim does has to be do to islam

[1nemansquad]

1ne, the "values" of a man who would kill a woman for not wearing the scarf make more sense to you?

Prag, you and i both know, her murder wasn't about her scarf; she got killed for other reason's not that i'm sure.

Like i said if she was another Ayan Hirsi on the rise, good on who ever killed her ..

[Lacageylacag]

There appeared a man carrying a knife and stabbing women in a Cairo estate.
the story spread and reached the newspapers after few days.
You know the headline?
"women hating islamist on the loose"
They are investigating the masjids and madrassas.

[Osman]

[quote="Navy9"]Her Killer believes the women should not be involved in politics!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,253125,00.html[/quote]

Thats a bummer, he's quite the chauvinist.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"She was probably a feminist and pro western values and not religious, and perhaps a rising Ayan Hirsi, better to stop her early on before she gets big .."

Ayan Hirsi has a right to do and say whatever she pleases. If you disagree, you can articulate that. But no one, short of those who are inciting violence, should have their freedom of expression curtailed.

[Seoma [Crawler2]]

[quote="e!"][quote="Cadeey"]Let me make it clear her killing had nothing to do with Islam.[/quote]

True, but to ppl like Mad Mac anything wrong that a muslim does has to be do to islam[/quote]

i agree. in my neighborhood a polish engineer killed his wife by tighting her in the chair and put gasoline on her then burn her. ivent read in the ksa news papers that a christian man killed his wife for cheating with an american chemical engneer.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Mow
The reason that Islam is associated with these acts, is because Muslims make the association themselves. Even right here, even you. You are the first one to admit that Islam is a way of life, the motivation for much violence.

When the IRA launched attacks in Northern Ireland, was anyone waiving any religious banners? During funerals for Basques killed in seperatist violence, did anyone scream religious slogans? No. But almost universally, in the Islamic world, if you look at any political violence, God is cited.

In one sentance you will hear Allahu Akbar. In the next, Death to America. The association is made BY THE MUSLIMS themselves. Religion is not our motivation for political violence. But it is yours. That's the difference. I am not making the association, YOU ARE.

[Seoma [Crawler2]]

every muslim would admit islam is way of life. if i deny that basic islamic knowledge i wont be a muslim. when i go kill then im not following islamic way of life. im my own way. when i go out to drink do sin im not following islamic way of life. im in my own. claming something to be n being it are 2 different things. one can justify their behavour n claim to be islamic is that islamic? i doubt

[kadarre]

look at the gaalo here blaming it on Islam. You just want to point fingers dont you.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Mow
You are missing the point. The point is, when Muslims commit violence THEY (not us) associate that violence with Islam. When we commit violence, we do not associate it with religion. That is because religion is not a way of life for us. Don't you see, YOU are the ones who create the association. Not us.

It is YOUR violent actors who tie Islam with the violent acts. Look at Palestinian Militants. They use Allahu Akbar as a battle cry. Hamas itself pits this as a fight between the forces of Islam and the forces of kufr. Well, if you paint the picture that way, of course we are going to perceive it that way.

[muslim-man]

[quote="Lacageylacag"]There appeared a man carrying a knife and stabbing women in a Cairo estate.
the story spread and reached the newspapers after few days.
You know the headline?
"women hating islamist on the loose"
They are investigating the masjids and madrassas.[/quote]

lol

heard of the one of of the blind man with the guide that waved for a black taxi in central london? well if you haven't here is what happenned.

three white cab drivers and a paki cabbie refused to take take him on board because he had a dog, the next day the headline of one of the leading news papers screamed "muslism cabbie wouldn't carry a blind man because he had a dog"

[Seoma [Crawler2]]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Mow
You are missing the point. The point is, when Muslims commit violence THEY (not us) associate that violence with Islam. When we commit violence, we do not associate it with religion. That is because religion is not a way of life for us. Don't you see, YOU are the ones who create the association. Not us.

It is YOUR violent actors who tie Islam with the violent acts. Look at Palestinian Militants. They use Allahu Akbar as a battle cry. Hamas itself pits this as a fight between the forces of Islam and the forces of kufr. Well, if you paint the picture that way, of course we are going to perceive it that way.[/quote]

whats wrong using Allahu Akbar? do you know what it means? muslim even when they eat they say bissmillah or in the name of God.they are doing jihad for their lands. violants isnt wrong in all cases. some times is the only language the enemy understands. good for them palestinians.