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[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Isamhan:

I guess u would rather have preferred the speech which Sheik Sharif made at the surrender of the Sacad militia.

In his speech which was done at Villa Baidoa where 9 Sacad POWs were displayed in Afghan Style BLACK HOODS covering their head and their arms tied behind their backs and forced to stand infront of dozens of techniko:

Sheik Sharif refered to the captured men and the dead as "KAFIIR" & GAALO & their property was halal to be taken.

So the lil speech that Cabdulahi Yusuf made is much better than the one Sheik Sharif made.

While this was happening, not 1 Sacad person could even say anything against the Sharif. They were all forced to be quiet and accept the humiliation.

So Cabdullahi Yusuf may be wicked but he knew not to embarras or humiliate the Sacad unlike the UIC.

The worst part was that the Sacad lackeys in the UIC didn't make even so much as a peep [/quote]

AW..you are funny walaalo, I don't know where you get this crap. Good stuff though.

ISamahan,

My eedo was there in person.

The UIC propoganda machine is good enough to have fooled overseas Sacad and not the ones in the motherland.


So are you telling me that the UIC opponents were kafiir ? Or that Sacad property was legitimate to be stolen by the UIC ?

There comes a time in your life were you have to step up.

I would never allow my tool to be humiliated. I may disagree with them but I would never side with their enemies at all.

AW

The people in the diaspora in general saw the UIC as a group who wanted to bring peace using our religion, since that is the only thing Somalis can agree with. It wasn't about sacadnimo or anything. Anyone who opposed the UIC, they did it because it was against what they believed in(their interests). Tell me who are the majority of the people who oppossed the UIC and why?
I don't think its as deep as to called them Kuffar cuz they disagree in their concepts.

I definitely don't want my tool to be humiliated and certainly the UIC was neither trying to do that or take away any of their lands. If the UIC wanted to take any land...they did they give back most of the stolen proporties in Xamar back to thier rightfull owners.

Isamahan:

Do you believe that the UIC wanted to undermine the GM government ?

Why did they make their advance at the same time that the Sacad were meeting in Galkacyo to build the GM ?

Why did Dahir Aweys proclaim on BBC that he was not interested in Puntland but wanted to go as far as Galkacyo (sacad side) ?

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Isamahan:

Do you believe that the UIC wanted to undermine the GM government ?

Why did they make their advance at the same time that the Sacad were meeting in Galkacyo to build the GM ?

Why did Dahir Aweys proclaim on BBC that he was not interested in Puntland but wanted to go as far as Galkacyo (sacad side) ?[/quote]

NO, I don't believe they wanted to destroy the peacefull gov't taking place in GM, but they need to be there so that they can advance to putland. Its was just the wrong timing.

Isamahan,

All then they would need is to negotiate passage and recognize the authority of the GM.

But they did not, and occupied legitimate territory as invaders.

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Isamahan,

All then they would need is to negotiate passage and recognize the authority of the GM.

But they did not, and occupied legitimate territory as invaders.[/quote]

That is were it went all wrong...becasue we would not let them in.

Isamahan:

Let them in

They still had the blood of Sacad on them. Some of our techniko from Xamar were stolen and sent to the Gelinsor front.

What about the 300 Sacad warriors transported from Xamar after the UIC captured it ?

Our war veterans would not allow it nor could we trust the UIC since they came as a hostile force and based on their treatment of our diaspora in Xamar.

Abdi

Has some good points, if there was no court uprising and the situation remained the same who knows old man could have rot in Jowhar, his wailing and cries for peacekeeping forces was repeatedly ignored and brushed aside, this sure was a big Oppertunity for yeey.

Could La Dagaalanka Argagaxisada Inspired Yeey to use the Terrorist card for foreign support? What would the outcome have been had the Warlords succeeded? sure america would had favoured them over yeey

smooth,

Thanks for agreeing with me.

The Americans favored the Isbaheysiga over the TFG and that irritated CY. He was failing to get the 1 card which the Isbaheysiga had fighting terror. After the elimination of the Isbaheysiga and the fact the UIC refused to distance themselves from the extremists, the CY got all the help he needed as he was the LAST OPTION.

CY was well contained in Jowhar & was lifeless. The Mog Ministers & Sharif Xasan formed a strong viable opposition against CY and all this was done under the TFG framework: TFG Mogadishu vs. TFG Jowhar.

It was a smart plan while it lasted and helped ensure that Hawiye had the upper hand.