Three Buddhist Women Shot Dead By Islamists

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Well, therein lies the hope that a full scale conflageration can be avoided. The majority of Muslims reject militant Islam and do not support it. BUT, unfortunately, a lot of people like yourself make excuses for it. And even you do not reject political Islam. Political Islam is not compatable with the rest of the world. That's a problem. Because the rest of the world is not going to accept being attacked by Muslims ad nauseum.

[Life_Death]

Islam is a complete religion....within it, you can find economical, social, political and your every day actions..... Unlike other people, Muslims don't believe in one thing and disbelieve in another....we believe in each and every aspect of the religion

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[Steeler [Crawler2]]

IF you insist on foisting your beliefs upon others, and of embracing violence to do so, you will be destroyed. YOU'RE THE WEAK. Remember that. Allah can not save you.

[Life_Death]

How have I forced my religion on anyone?....

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[Padishah]

Mad Mac, get over yourself. I'm getting sick of this inane preaching of yours about the collective culpability of the Ummah, which is hypocritical. Were we to hold you to the same standard, why you'd be directly responsible for not stopping the two recent, immoral Wars, close to 660,000 Iraqi deaths and the looting of Iraq's priceless antiquities that seem to be finding their way into private collections in New York, Boston and London. Enough said!

Now, poney up proof where the Ummah provides support for these 'Islamists', or where Classical Islamic Interpretation of the faith provides for 'Islamist' tactics. Furthermore, PROVE that there the Islamists, Islamofascists, Islamic Militants or anything of the sort in Thailand shot these two women. Put up or shut up, Mac.

Same goes to you Poetess, considering that 'suspected' and 'may have' is not even circumstantial proof of your claims. Put up or shut up, although I know this is wishful thinking with intellectually vacant neo-Conservative apes.

And I would dearly love to see evidence of Muslims ruling anything by force in Southern Thailand. Consider that these Southerners ARE Muslim MALAYS (not Thais), and have been ruled by other Muslim MALAYS, until Siam came along. You would have us believe that your supposedly peaceful (but heavily armed) pot-smoking guitar strumming Kumbaya Buddhist Thais wandered, wide eyed and innocent, into the Malay territory on their equally peaceful and sedate War Elephants, and somehow found themselves controlling the area through sheer luck!

Somehow, I don't think so.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"And I would dearly love to see evidence of Muslims ruling anything by force in Southern Thailand. Consider that these Southerners ARE Muslim MALAYS (not Thais), and have been ruled by other Muslim MALAYS, until Siam came along. You would have us believe that your supposedly peaceful (but heavily armed) pot-smoking guitar strumming Kumbaya Buddhist Thais wandered, wide eyed and innocent, into the Malay territory on their equally peaceful and sedate War Elephants, and somehow found themselves controlling the area through sheer luck!"

You missed the point, as usual. First of all, even were these individuals murdered for some other reason, it is beyond debate the Muslim Militants are killing large numbers of people in Southern Thailand. Are you disputing this?

Now, how are these militants operating, how are they getting funded, how are they recruiting, how are they avoiding detection, if they are not receiving support from some element of the population? Explain that to me.

IT is true that Siam conquored this region - 100 years ago!!!! Got that? 100 years ago. Insurgent movements trying to address 100 year old grievances are not legitimate. The government of Malaysia has NO, I say again NO, irredentist claims on the region. But yet you rationalize and excuse.

Across the globe militants are engaged in acts of violence in the name of Islam. Now you are saying that Muslims don't support them? Who does? The IRA existed with the support of the Irish Catholic of Northern Ireland. ETA was only able to function with the support of the Basques. The Red Army Faction collapsed and was not able to really get off the ground because the general population did not support them. You see what I am getting at? A militant movement that is conducting criminal acts can not survive as a movement if there is no supporting population group.

[FAH1223]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Well, therein lies the hope that a full scale conflageration can be avoided. The majority of Muslims reject militant Islam and do not support it. BUT, unfortunately, a lot of people like yourself make excuses for it. And even you do not reject political Islam. Political Islam is not compatable with the rest of the world. That's a problem. Because the rest of the world is not going to accept being attacked by Muslims ad nauseum.[/quote]

Killing three Buddhist women for no reason - whats not hot

too many in the Ummah are too scared of these Islamists and thats just silly

and interpretations of political Islam vary... the most common reference you will probably point out is Afghanistan and Saudi Arabis\a and other wahabi strongholds

but if Islam was the problem, the planet would be gone right now. So CHILL.

[Life_Death]

FAH1223....My question is for you......What is a wahabi according to you

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[FAH1223]

[quote="Life_Death"]FAH1223....My question is for you......What is a wahabi according to you

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saudis/taliban/alqaeda

[Life_Death]

[quote="FAH1223"][quote="Life_Death"]FAH1223....My question is for you......What is a wahabi according to you

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saudis/taliban/alqaeda[/quote]

So if someone is born in Saudi Arabia or to Saudi parents he/she is a wahabi?

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[Padishah]

Rationalise and excuse? Cut the bullcrap Mad Mac, seriously. What is there to rationalise about the situation? Its simple, and does not involve irridentist claims by Malaysia. These Malays have a history of being oppressed in Thailand, taxed but not having their infrastructure improved, and a host of other grievances, justified or no. If there was no Imperial Siam and its oppressive successor state, then there would be no problem, as these would be ruled by their own, and their rulers accountable to their own!

How many die because these separatists go about their shyte like a bunch of savages is a symptom of the above condition.