SomaliWomen in the Veil?

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Lil Cutie
Was there an associated point to all this?

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[quote="MAD MAC"]Lil Cutie
Was there an associated point to all this?[/quote]


how is your mom mad

[Lil_Cutie..]

If you read it through you will read that infact Aisha did wear the veil. She covered her face;

" I veiled my face with my head cover at once" --> So I woke up when he recited Istirja' (i.e. "Inna lillahi wa inna llaihi raji'un") as soon as he recognized me. I veiled my face with my head cover at once, and by Allah, we did not speak a single word, and I did not hear him saying any word besides his Istirja'

"I covered my face with my garment" --> I got up because of his saying: "Inna Lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajiun," which he uttered on recognizing me. I covered my face with my garment, and by Allah, he did not say to me a single word except, "Inna Lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajiun," till he made his she-camel kneel down whereupon he trod on its forelegs and I mounted it.


There are more hadiths indicating that our beloved Aisha (ra) may (or did) wear the face veil, but these are just some.. If you need more just ask.

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That she might or might not have covered her face is nice, BUT NO WHERE did the Prophet mandate it nor did at ANY TIME it become customary for the women to do this during the time of the Prophet. Aisha doing it at one point or another (she obviously DID NOT do it all the time, nor is there evidence that the other wives did it routinely) is irrelevent. Niqab is not halal.

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the only thing that is not xalaal is your moms cl.t mad

[Lil_Cutie..]

Narrated Anas: Um (the mother of) Haritha came to Allah's Apostle after Haritha had been martyred on the Day (of the battle) of Badr by an arrow thrown by an unknown person. She said, "O Allah's Apostle! You know the position of Haritha in my heart (i.e. how dear to me he was), so if he is in Paradise, I will not weep for him, or otherwise, you will see what I will do." The Prophet said, "Are you mad? Is there only one Paradise? There are many Paradises, and he is in the highest Paradise of Firdaus." The Prophet added, "A forenoon journey or an after noon journey in Allah's Cause is better than the whole world and whatever is in it; and a place equal to an arrow bow of anyone of you, or a place equal to a foot in Paradise is better than the whole world and whatever is in it; and if one of the women of Paradise looked at the earth, she would fill the whole space between them (the earth and the heaven) with light, and would fill whatever is in between them, with perfume, and the veil of her face is better than the whole world and whatever is in it." (Book #76, Hadith #572)

Dont you read?-Our Nabi (saw) said
"and the veil of her face is better than the whole world and whatever is in it"


&Yes some did wear it at the time. That Question is undoubtable..
Narrated Safiya bint Shaiba: 'Aisha used to say: "When (the Verse): "They should draw their veils over their necks and bosoms," was revealed, (the ladies) cut their waist sheets at the edges and covered their faces with the cut pieces." (Book #60, Hadith #282)

When the Verses were revealed many women wore it. Because the 'Hijaab' or scarf (not them of today) had an extra material at the top and it was easier to just draw it down, therefore the bossoms and neck were covered.

Like I said Mac, there are more hadiths indicating that she did wear it. It is not even a maybe.
&Why would Aisha wear it (lets say it was only a one-off) if the the Prophet Mohammed was against it if it were haraam? She was living in the house of the Prophet.. The walking Qur'aan. The teacher..
Ask yourself a few Questions before you jump next time.

[Lil_Cutie..]

HERE ARE SOME NICE GENERAL Q&A ABOUT THE HIJAAB. BY SHEIKH YUSUF ESTES, HE MAKES MENTION OF THE VEIL ASWELL. InshaAllah-->

PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5hZZUo2CjQ (5Mins)

PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ3fZQuZjdg (3Mins)

[Asraa]

i heard that niqab is only sunnah allah swt said in the quran to cover your head and dress modest not cover your face what the hell man that is some next ish b

[Lil_Cutie..]

[quote="Asraa"]i heard that niqab is only sunnah allah swt said in the quran to cover your head and dress modest not cover your face [/quote]

Yes.

[Asraa]

bayo do you wear niqab or hijab

[Lil_Cutie..]

Only the Compulsory Hijaab Alxamdulilah.

P.S. The confussion comes because the verse Allah tala revealed, states 'veils'.

And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands fathers, their sons, their husbands sons, their brothers or their brothers sons, or their sisters sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.
( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #31)


O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful.
( سورة الأحزاب , Al-Ahzab, Chapter #33, Verse #59)

Did you watch the YouTube videos?

[Asraa]

alright boomski good to hear man mashallah

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"Like I said Mac, there are more hadiths indicating that she did wear it. It is not even a maybe.
&Why would Aisha wear it (lets say it was only a one-off) if the the Prophet Mohammed was against it if it were haraam? She was living in the house of the Prophet.. The walking Qur'aan. The teacher..
Ask yourself a few Questions before you jump next time."

I have already done the homework on this one. If it's not mandated, it is no longer halal. Simpleas that. Aisha most certainly did not wear the veil all the time. Nor did any of his other wives. In short, Hijab is prefered. If it were not, Mohammed would have mandated Niqab. In other words, wearing ever more covering does not make you a better Muslim.

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mad i had a dream of chopping your mothers c..lt chop chop chop


like a sambab (longs)

[Lil_Cutie..]

'If it's not mandated, it is no longer halal.'

No Longer?.. Used to be?
Halal? I don't understand your argument. If something is not Halaal, then it is Haraam (is that what you are emplying like before?). But where does Allah say in the Qur'aan and the Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammed (saw) that it is Haraam then? Surely you can try to prove it? I proved to you that actually it is HALAAL by the many quotations from hadiths and quraan.

--If Aisha (ra) wore it just once(supposidly) and our Phropet Mohammed (saw) said it is haraam (supposidly) then why isn't there a hadith about it?Perhaps a continuation from the incident of the time she did (example of the hadith I pasted here, which your assuming is the only time)? Why isn't there a Hadith by the Phropet Mohammed saying that she shouldn't of done that?
--Well there isn't. Simply because the Qur'aan is at it is, the verses have been revealed.
So if it isn't Haraam, then it is 'Generally'-Okay?


BUT Good you did your research, but you are not a Scholar--So how could you possibly know everything excatly?. Generally it is agreed, it is not complusory, but it is a refered to as a sunnah, an ciabaada (act of worship-if it betters you, go ahead!). It is not like the Hijaab either or niether does it make you a better Muslim. Allah knows Best of Intensions.
Whether it is perfered over the Hijaab depends on which Imam you ask, if you ask one in a Muslim country you will get a different response to the ones over here.



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